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It's been advised that every region owner protect themselves by having an OAR of their land. Wise advice, and something to be considered when renting a region, for example, on AviTron. Also advised: Have a copy of your account IAR. What does Alex have to say about this?
AviTron Terms and Conditions
https://avitron.net/terms-and-conditions
From TOS Amendment 8/27/2021
"AviTron does not give out Region OARS and account IARs. Reason being is to protect our free content".
And your free content?
From Section 2.3
"Except as otherwise described in any Additional Terms (such as a contest's official rules) which will govern the submission of your User Content, you hereby grant to AviTron Virtual World, and you agree to grant to AviTron Virtual World, the non-exclusive, unrestricted, unconditional, unlimited, worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual, and cost-free right and license to use, copy, record, distribute, reproduce, disclose, modify, display, publicly perform, transmit, publish, broadcast, translate, make derivative works of, and sell, re-sell or sublicense (through multiple levels)(with respect to each Product or otherwise on the Service as permitted by you through your interactions with the Service), and otherwise exploit in any manner whatsoever, all or any portion of your User Content (and derivative works thereof), for any purpose whatsoever in all formats, on or through any media, software, formula, or medium now known or hereafter developed, and with any technology or devices now known or hereafter developed, and to advertise, market, and promote the same."
AviTron Terms and Conditions
https://avitron.net/terms-and-conditions
From TOS Amendment 8/27/2021
"AviTron does not give out Region OARS and account IARs. Reason being is to protect our free content".
And your free content?
From Section 2.3
"Except as otherwise described in any Additional Terms (such as a contest's official rules) which will govern the submission of your User Content, you hereby grant to AviTron Virtual World, and you agree to grant to AviTron Virtual World, the non-exclusive, unrestricted, unconditional, unlimited, worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual, and cost-free right and license to use, copy, record, distribute, reproduce, disclose, modify, display, publicly perform, transmit, publish, broadcast, translate, make derivative works of, and sell, re-sell or sublicense (through multiple levels)(with respect to each Product or otherwise on the Service as permitted by you through your interactions with the Service), and otherwise exploit in any manner whatsoever, all or any portion of your User Content (and derivative works thereof), for any purpose whatsoever in all formats, on or through any media, software, formula, or medium now known or hereafter developed, and with any technology or devices now known or hereafter developed, and to advertise, market, and promote the same."
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No, I DO NOT agree to these terms as stated. This is now made public, so now guess what, those terms are VOID! Alex, or AviTron does not hold any copyrights to my intellectual property unless I enter into an agreement in writing to where both parties sign such agreement, determining the sale or or time frame of permissions granted and how those permissions are applied. Now, if Alex or the AT staff does not like it, then they can choose to refuse service to me. If he chooses to continue service with me, then this is applied, thereby limiting his use of said items to such agreement as stated, and being signed and dated by both parties. I am already aware that Alex is re-writing the copy of the lame claims put forth by LL at SL that he previously used, and I shall review the new ToS and do the same if any claims are made to my intellectual proprty, as I grant no one such rights to my intellectual property without a signed contract by myself and the other party involved. To be fair, if someone asks me to use a logo or something made by me in order to advertise our location or events, that is totally different, because it is a given, vs a claim as stated in the ToS. Alex, I hope you see this, because this is what you are going to be up against in such situations, and I think you should take this into consideration in the re-write of the AT TOS concerning the intellectual property of others. As for the rest of you watching to see what happens, keep watching, because I am in AT working on a huge project to be announced when ready. I seriously doubt Alex is going to refuse me service because I don't agree to allow him or AT to use my intellectual property as stated in the current TOS... Problem solved!
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I want to amplify something said by an advocate for AviTron. "I have spoken with Alex and asked him about [references to Linden Labs in the AviTron TOS], and he told me that came from the AW TOS, which was copied directly from the SL or LL TOS."
So no, Alex didn't write the rules. Linden Labs did.
"Because of this issue concerning the TOS, and me asking him about it, he is now reviewing and correcting the entire thing from what I understand, making it specifically an AT TOS without all the crap LL introduced".
Stay tuned...
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So no, Alex didn't write the rules. Linden Labs did.
"Because of this issue concerning the TOS, and me asking him about it, he is now reviewing and correcting the entire thing from what I understand, making it specifically an AT TOS without all the crap LL introduced".
Stay tuned...
Just to bring it to more attention what I responded to @opensimlife user about Alexi's TOS rofl: "Shhh... I hoped readers here would read Alexis TOS and would found that by themselves..Now you gave him a chance to alter that (SL copied) TOS. I do hope that post here will never be deleted "
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The post will remain. Any changes to the TOS referring to OARs, IARs, or Linden Labs will be documented. Or not. I might decide to watch a good movie instead. Say! Why don't you do it?
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I want to amplify something said by @SpaxOrion
"By the way... there is a way to make OAR and IAR which PRESERVES the permissions of all items therein, the fact that grid owners REFUSE to make them for their users in order to "Protect content creators" is utter nonsense. This is only used as a form of entrapment to KEEP people from leaving their grid and going someplace else. There is a special place in perdition for those who employ such tactics".
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"By the way... there is a way to make OAR and IAR which PRESERVES the permissions of all items therein, the fact that grid owners REFUSE to make them for their users in order to "Protect content creators" is utter nonsense. This is only used as a form of entrapment to KEEP people from leaving their grid and going someplace else. There is a special place in perdition for those who employ such tactics".
The BEST way to use Opensim is to LEARN HOW to run a simulator yourself. Dedicated servers are more affordable these days. Contanbo is a good sponsor on this site. Learning HOW to run Opensim in standalone mode with hypergrid is very easy to accomplish (plenty of tutorials online) for those who posses sufficient computer skills.
When you run your own grid, YOU get to decide who can enter, you get to make the RULES, you can do anything you like and not be worried about YOUR CONTENT at the hands of oppressors or shady grid owners who can take copies of anything you create without your permission.
When I came to Opensim, I had a grid owner who refused to make backups prior to upgrading their server. Due to their incompetence, I lost a few months worth of hard work,at the time I was establishing my brand on Kitely Marketplace. This is when I decided to educate myself on how to run my own simulations, first I started on OSgrid and now I have my own dedicated Linux server. A web search for "Opensim standalone tutorial" will link you to Austin Tate's blog and he has an excellent walk-through on setting up your own standalone simulator from scratch.
By the way... there is a way to make OAR and IAR which PRESERVES the permissions of all items therein, the fact that grid owners REFUSE to make them for their users in order to "Protect content creators" is utter nonsense. This is only used as a form of entrapment to KEEP people from leaving their grid and going someplace else. There is a special place in perdition for those who employ such tactics.
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When you run your own grid, YOU get to decide who can enter, you get to make the RULES, you can do anything you like and not be worried about YOUR CONTENT at the hands of oppressors or shady grid owners who can take copies of anything you create without your permission.
When I came to Opensim, I had a grid owner who refused to make backups prior to upgrading their server. Due to their incompetence, I lost a few months worth of hard work,at the time I was establishing my brand on Kitely Marketplace. This is when I decided to educate myself on how to run my own simulations, first I started on OSgrid and now I have my own dedicated Linux server. A web search for "Opensim standalone tutorial" will link you to Austin Tate's blog and he has an excellent walk-through on setting up your own standalone simulator from scratch.
By the way... there is a way to make OAR and IAR which PRESERVES the permissions of all items therein, the fact that grid owners REFUSE to make them for their users in order to "Protect content creators" is utter nonsense. This is only used as a form of entrapment to KEEP people from leaving their grid and going someplace else. There is a special place in perdition for those who employ such tactics.
Alex has been known to do stuff like this, however the statement above in section 2.3 would violate if say someone purchased something on kitely market place. just because something is on a region does not make it his. I am surprised osw continues to let the grid or I should say him on osw.
I understand why someone would want to block that grid but punishing others for what alex did seems like a 20/20, if there was only a way to punish just alex.
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I understand why someone would want to block that grid but punishing others for what alex did seems like a 20/20, if there was only a way to punish just alex.
Agreed, when any content enters AlexTron, he is basically saying it becomes his property, by placing the item on his land you are transferring your rights to the content to him which could be illegal depending on geolocation. If there is such a high demand for CC devs to enter his grid, I cannot believe that they would be stupid enough to IGNORE the TOS regarding content because as an originator myself, that statement in section 2.3 would be a deal breaker.
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My God. The funny thing about this is that no one points out the facts. FACTS. I've been in the virtual world since 2007 and I've never heard of you guys. Just 3 months ago I found out about OPENSIM and do you know why? Because Alex is doing a lot of hard work for people to know this space and where I could go I went and I loved it, I thought it was so smart and I'm delighted and you just want to close the door on us from Avitron because you don't want to recognize that a man can lift ? He's been at Avitron for a year, 24 hours a day at Avitron's disposal, posting, doing groups promoting investing. My God, my God, please make room and join a world you've built beautifully. Please recognize that it is a tantrum that disregards the person's real life. Who doesn't know what's behind problems. I'm sorry the closed ones here are you.
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You want FACTS?
Nico quoted enough FACTS and linked to them. Your precious sim is not your property. Got it?
Want more FACTS? (tl;dr: Alex' grids shut down with no warning 14 times in 11 years, residents always lost all their assets and all their money.)
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/04/aviworlds-shuts-...
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/10/pomposelli-shuts...
Now you have more FACTS. Stuff that happened more than 3 months ago. Your history lesson for today. Thank me later.
Then again, it doesn't even matter anymore if Alex shut down AviWorlds (13 times even) and Virtual-Ville without warning. If AviTron should go down, it wouldn't make a difference if he announced it or not. You won't be able to save anything either way.
If AviTron goes down, Wuudsville WILL be gone for good. Until then, it's Alex' property, not yours. And he can do with it whatever he wants to. The Terms and Conditions say so.
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Nico quoted enough FACTS and linked to them. Your precious sim is not your property. Got it?
Want more FACTS? (tl;dr: Alex' grids shut down with no warning 14 times in 11 years, residents always lost all their assets and all their money.)
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/04/aviworlds-shuts-...
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/10/pomposelli-shuts...
Now you have more FACTS. Stuff that happened more than 3 months ago. Your history lesson for today. Thank me later.
Then again, it doesn't even matter anymore if Alex shut down AviWorlds (13 times even) and Virtual-Ville without warning. If AviTron should go down, it wouldn't make a difference if he announced it or not. You won't be able to save anything either way.
If AviTron goes down, Wuudsville WILL be gone for good. Until then, it's Alex' property, not yours. And he can do with it whatever he wants to. The Terms and Conditions say so.
Let's go easy on Karin. In chatting with her, she seems like a delightful person who just fell into bad company. She has much to learn about what OS has to offer, especially about the freedoms offered here that SL does not allow -- like having your own OAR. She wants to learn and hopefully people will be willing to help.
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I understand perfectly. What you don't understand is that I'm not doing Wuudsville for ego or to be a place of attachment. I'm telling you that I'm satisfied with the support I have in avitron when I have problems, that I'm having fun, and then if they accept me, that's after. Isn't that the purpose? I believe in good recoveries and I'm sure Avitron is the redemption of it all. At least he's on the right track now.
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LATE EDIT: I have erased much of this comment. As Karen explains below, her comment was handicapped by a language issue. However, I will keep this part of my comment, directed at the real problem here.
I did indeed point out the facts. I quoted the AviTron TOS exactly as Alex wrote them.
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I did indeed point out the facts. I quoted the AviTron TOS exactly as Alex wrote them.
Maybe my translation is bad. But what I meant is that I didn't know OPENSIM, and not you. I didn't know there was another grid besides SL. And you don't need to remember me, I was never someone anywhere, nor am I anything here. I am a cook by profession and interior design in real life for pleasure. So here I just want to decorate and make beautiful things and I want to show you. But I never disregarded the importance of you and I thanked you for this created world, you will help many people who are interested in building and having fun and taking this to their lives. Thank you so much for all these grid options, I would love to be able to enter them all freely.
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It was those words of yours that made me see that you don't speak the truth. Wuudsville was hand-drawn in the interior of northeastern Brazil by someone who loves the metaverse. You must go there. It has no poso region, it is a city with roads, mountains, commerce, and much more. It has nothing to do with any island, but roads have all over the world. No more a pleasure to meet you, I would never say that you did something imitating someone, I would give you credit and everything you say here says much more about you than Alex. Because you keep mistreating me for your hatred of him. And I'm sorry I like his work so much, but it's real. I hope he's happy on the thousandth attempt he makes. I wish you all the success in the world too. What we wish for the other, the universe brings back. Ready I turned off the device of open sim and I will no longer appear in your traffic, but I will continue posting.
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I will accept the comment of Winwin that "Your place is similar in its footprint but must say it looks like a cool region". Congrats.
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And no, I don't hate Alex. I just pity him, And I worry about those who don't know his history or the AviTron TOS. You think I lie about that. Read it yourself. And tell us how successful you are in getting a copy of your creation.
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To be fair to Alex, I would venture to say that there are other grids that do not provide users with OARs and IARs -- like Second Life. As a service to current and prospective region renters, please comment with the names of grids that do.
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I have spoken with Alex and asked him about that, and he told me that came from the AW TOS, which was copied directly from the SL or LL TOS. I told Alex the part about where LL is attempting to claim the right to take ownership of your intellectual property is like you renting a house from someone in RL and them telling you since you are renting from them, they now have total and complete rights to everything in your home. This is 100% FALSE!!!! They cannot do that without a written contract, bearing the signature of both parties...period! They cannot tell you just because you bring in something it is now theirs...period. That is just an indirect way of deception and theft in itself. Because of this issue concerning the TOS, and me asking him about it, he is now reviewing and correcting the entire thing from what I understand, making it specifically an AT TOS without all the crap LL introduced.
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Please bring this comment by @SpaxOrion to his attention:
"By the way... there is a way to make OAR and IAR which PRESERVES the permissions of all items therein, the fact that grid owners REFUSE to make them for their users in order to "Protect content creators" is utter nonsense. This is only used as a form of entrapment to KEEP people from leaving their grid and going someplace else. There is a special place in perdition for those who employ such tactics".
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"By the way... there is a way to make OAR and IAR which PRESERVES the permissions of all items therein, the fact that grid owners REFUSE to make them for their users in order to "Protect content creators" is utter nonsense. This is only used as a form of entrapment to KEEP people from leaving their grid and going someplace else. There is a special place in perdition for those who employ such tactics".
I love hyperbolie, but no, Linden Lab is only mentioned 14 times. But how many times should it be mentioned? Zero. So ya, It's a fail. https://gyazo.com/c63d862f399895d9931d151eeef4eea1
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Yes I noticed that. But where-ever it came from and how ineptly it was edited, the important point is that this is now the TOS of AviTron. Plus, if anyone misses Second Life and it's TOS, now they know where to go.
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I provided this link to one fanboy of Alex and suggested he help him learn one of the decades old basics of word processing.
https://zapier.com/blog/find-replace-guide/ We will see how it takes
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https://zapier.com/blog/find-replace-guide/ We will see how it takes
The OS AV (Audio Visual) Club presents the AviTron TOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54lVO7elt0
(Link by way of Glenys Bieler)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54lVO7elt0
(Link by way of Glenys Bieler)
Interesting similarity, Zero Wing spoofed by western culture,"All you base are belong to us". used as a reference to Avitron vs the rest of Opensim...sorry Alex, gave me a giggle, I'm sure it's coincidence ... So does this mean the phrase works as a cheat code too?.... just asking
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tl;dr: Whatever you create in AviTron, the AviTron staff can do with it as they please, including but not limited to selling it for real money.
Whatever you copybot elsewhere and take to AviTron, the AviTron staff can do with it as they please, including but not limited to selling it for real money.
Basically, it doesn't matter if you've got something in your inventory which is licensed in such a way that selling it for money is forbidden. Or if you've copybotted a few of Luna Lunaria's commercial buildings and taken them to AviTron. Or if you've copybotted Lbsa Plaza and taken it to AviTron. Alex allows himself to sell it all for money or give it away for free. And "exploit in any manner whatsoever" and "for any purpose whatsoever" can be stretched so far that he can declare himself or someone from his staff the original creator and sue Luna Lunaria for IP theft.
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Whatever you copybot elsewhere and take to AviTron, the AviTron staff can do with it as they please, including but not limited to selling it for real money.
Basically, it doesn't matter if you've got something in your inventory which is licensed in such a way that selling it for money is forbidden. Or if you've copybotted a few of Luna Lunaria's commercial buildings and taken them to AviTron. Or if you've copybotted Lbsa Plaza and taken it to AviTron. Alex allows himself to sell it all for money or give it away for free. And "exploit in any manner whatsoever" and "for any purpose whatsoever" can be stretched so far that he can declare himself or someone from his staff the original creator and sue Luna Lunaria for IP theft.
Yous have stated; "Whatever you copybot elsewhere and take to AviTron..." Let's start with a lesson in the DIFFERENCES of a copybot and G-d Mode, shall we? First of all, it is my understanding that every single grid has this feature, and gives it to the land owners who actually pay for land. With this G-d Mode, they ten can take ANYTHING that is rezzed in their sim and change the permissions as desired. What this G-d Mode really is, in effect is the employees and owners rights in the Grid, granted a lower level of the same to the users who own land that is paid for, giving them this ability to do as if they were an actual owner or employee of that grid. - This is a BIG problem for creators, and yet we wonder why all the same stuff that was stolen from SL appears and every single grid of the OpenGrid Community, to where they did not have the G-d Mode capabilities... So how did they get stuff from SL to the Open Grids when all this started? Copybot!
Copybot is a viewer that is made to give the users those same powers, but with limitations they cannot control, such as when they copybot an item, it does not include the scripts, so now you know why all this free stuff is mostly JUNK, because they don't funtion correctly due to not actually having the scripts that they were originall distrubuted with in SL, where they were stolen from to begin with!
So, now we see two different aspects of how people are stealing things, and the G-d Mode capability is the biggest culprit, because it makes EVERYTHING full perms, even the scripts! Oh had the OpenGrid Community had seen this at the start, claiming let's make everything free, and forget about trying to do this to make money, causing the biggest problem the OpenGrid Community has, but ignoring it to this very day!
Oh crap, I just told everyone how they are doing it and who is to blame!
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Copybot is a viewer that is made to give the users those same powers, but with limitations they cannot control, such as when they copybot an item, it does not include the scripts, so now you know why all this free stuff is mostly JUNK, because they don't funtion correctly due to not actually having the scripts that they were originall distrubuted with in SL, where they were stolen from to begin with!
So, now we see two different aspects of how people are stealing things, and the G-d Mode capability is the biggest culprit, because it makes EVERYTHING full perms, even the scripts! Oh had the OpenGrid Community had seen this at the start, claiming let's make everything free, and forget about trying to do this to make money, causing the biggest problem the OpenGrid Community has, but ignoring it to this very day!
Oh crap, I just told everyone how they are doing it and who is to blame!
If they're put onto a sim, and someone from AviTron copybots them, they become Alex' property, too.
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Contest time! Anticipated comment from whom? "Haters. Servers! Free. Me. #1. Gubish gubish. Me. Argle, bargle. Haters! Argle, bargle...".
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In other words, everything their users collects, uploads or creates becomes the sole property of Avitron itself, or otherwise, belongs to Alex.
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If you have created it, you retain certain intellectual copyrights, and would have the item on your hard drive. Not-with-standing, it looks like a creator gives permission for Alex to do a bunch of stuff with it.
But yes, your carefully curated collection of items gathered over many hours from all over the hyper-grid, you in-world modifications, builds and outfits using the same? When the grid is gone, they are gone -- to you. Alex owns them now, and forever.
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But yes, your carefully curated collection of items gathered over many hours from all over the hyper-grid, you in-world modifications, builds and outfits using the same? When the grid is gone, they are gone -- to you. Alex owns them now, and forever.
I think many of them fall into the camp of "Alex is just the underdog, he tries so hard and we want to support him..........". Many are however so blind, that they WILL just follow him onto the next venture - and just eat up the wasted time (and likely money) they have invested in his current one when it inevitably falls over again.
I did used to at least partially sing his praises for always picking himself up, brushing the dust of and starting over again.... however far too many people have invested heavily in making homes on his previous grids and lost all their work. Never giving up is a good thing... BUT... only if you don't keep taking others with you, and his past experience has been just that. I HOPE for the sake of his fans that this time his project "stays put" but that doesn't change his "everything is mine" approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54lVO7elt0
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I did used to at least partially sing his praises for always picking himself up, brushing the dust of and starting over again.... however far too many people have invested heavily in making homes on his previous grids and lost all their work. Never giving up is a good thing... BUT... only if you don't keep taking others with you, and his past experience has been just that. I HOPE for the sake of his fans that this time his project "stays put" but that doesn't change his "everything is mine" approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54lVO7elt0
I'm not even so sure that he has that many faithful fanbois and fangurls who support him no matter what, even after his long history of grid crashes with total data losses (except for himself, of course), of "selling the grid" and forcibly taking it back afterwards several times etc. Maybe some are convinced that Hypergrid Business has falsified history.
I dare say that many are simply new to OpenSim, joined the second-biggest grid (and the one with the loudest advertising) and have never heard of him and of the history of AviWorlds under him. I hope for them that they won't learn the hard way by another sudden and unannounced grid shutdown with no chance to rescue their content.
Others are opportunistic content junkies who joined AviTron when and because it was the only grid with free Sacrarium access, and they did so to bot Sacrarium's boutique sims. Now they roam the Hypergrid and bot everything they can get. If any other grid had made that deal with Sacrarium, they would have joined that one and done the same.
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I dare say that many are simply new to OpenSim, joined the second-biggest grid (and the one with the loudest advertising) and have never heard of him and of the history of AviWorlds under him. I hope for them that they won't learn the hard way by another sudden and unannounced grid shutdown with no chance to rescue their content.
Others are opportunistic content junkies who joined AviTron when and because it was the only grid with free Sacrarium access, and they did so to bot Sacrarium's boutique sims. Now they roam the Hypergrid and bot everything they can get. If any other grid had made that deal with Sacrarium, they would have joined that one and done the same.
This "history of AviWorlds under him", I am curious, is this all one sided, or are both sides of the story presented in all honesty? From the looks of what I see here, there is an OBVIOUS mission against such, and you fail to realize, he is the owner, and he can do what he wants with it, and there's not really much you can do about it but complain, which, is a complete waste of time. The reason for this, is NO ONE knows what the TRUTH is until they take the time to do their homework to some reasonable extent, and taking into consideration the absolutely ludicrous accusations I see posted, it's nothing more than a troll fest to try and make both Alex and AT look bad, but guess what, that still doesn't make it go away, because you have zero control over who moves in next door when they buy the place. You might want to research these three words in the context of what they mean... Open Sim Community
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"History of AviWorlds under him":
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/04/aviworlds-shuts-...
Scroll down all the way. There is the history. There's your homework. These are facts.
Also, take a look at the short history of Virtual-Ville, Alex' next grid which ended pretty much the same way AviWorlds ended 13 times over:
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/10/pomposelli-shuts...
If you're a newbie, and you haven't heard or read of any of this before, that's okay, now you know.
I just hope you aren't one of those years-long Alex fanbois and claqueurs who think that this is all "fake news" and propaganda invented by Maria Korolov and Josh Boam in order to badmouth the Greatest Grid Admin Ever.
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https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/04/aviworlds-shuts-...
Scroll down all the way. There is the history. There's your homework. These are facts.
Also, take a look at the short history of Virtual-Ville, Alex' next grid which ended pretty much the same way AviWorlds ended 13 times over:
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/10/pomposelli-shuts...
If you're a newbie, and you haven't heard or read of any of this before, that's okay, now you know.
I just hope you aren't one of those years-long Alex fanbois and claqueurs who think that this is all "fake news" and propaganda invented by Maria Korolov and Josh Boam in order to badmouth the Greatest Grid Admin Ever.
"NO ONE knows what the TRUTH is until they take the time to do their homework?" Like reading the AviTron TOS? https://avitron.net/terms-and-conditions
In the post, I presented the words of Alex, publicly published in his grid's TOS. If this is an OBVIOUS mission against Alex, then OBVIOUSLY, he should not have written the TOS as he did.
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In the post, I presented the words of Alex, publicly published in his grid's TOS. If this is an OBVIOUS mission against Alex, then OBVIOUSLY, he should not have written the TOS as he did.
It's an accepted fact that Alex has shutdown and restarted grids a large number of times. The number 17 as presented here is probably about right - I remember many of them personally myself. Sometimes with the grid only being online a very short period of time. Alex has admitted this himself (although claims to have learned by these mistakes). When his grids have gone down - people have lost content. This is not an opinion. Sometimes the shutdown has been so fast that the grid was there one day and gone the next with no warning.
Additionally, it is a matter of fact that his TOS claim IP rights over all content ever brought onto his grid. In as much as to facilitate that content - it needs to be presented to all visitors viewers this is pretty standard (you put content on the grid - you give me rights to show it to people who come looking - HAS to work this way). However, the rights he is claiming go far further than that.
Although writing them in TOS doesn't make them law - and he would not maintain any ownership rights on MOST content as MOST content has been copied "unofficially" from the originals without permission - where this is not the case, the TOS would mean that you have agreed that anything of YOURS you upload - he can now do whatever he likes with it, has no duty of care over your content, and can sell it and you have no rights over it anymore. A lot of this is "dubious" at best in law - and the fact that he would be claiming ownership on a lot of content that was botted means any case he fought in a court of law would likely fall flat on its face.
Despite what Alex may say, this isn't "trolling" Alex. His reputation has been earned by his past actions, and now claiming everything is his, is like a "last nail in the coffin to many people".
Having said that, everyone makes their own choices. I can't (and wouldn't) tell anyone who to support or not. Speaking personally though, while I have admired his tenacity and dogged determination to keep trying again, the morality of repeatedly taking others down with him, goes very much against him and I would never trust any of his grids.
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Additionally, it is a matter of fact that his TOS claim IP rights over all content ever brought onto his grid. In as much as to facilitate that content - it needs to be presented to all visitors viewers this is pretty standard (you put content on the grid - you give me rights to show it to people who come looking - HAS to work this way). However, the rights he is claiming go far further than that.
Although writing them in TOS doesn't make them law - and he would not maintain any ownership rights on MOST content as MOST content has been copied "unofficially" from the originals without permission - where this is not the case, the TOS would mean that you have agreed that anything of YOURS you upload - he can now do whatever he likes with it, has no duty of care over your content, and can sell it and you have no rights over it anymore. A lot of this is "dubious" at best in law - and the fact that he would be claiming ownership on a lot of content that was botted means any case he fought in a court of law would likely fall flat on its face.
Despite what Alex may say, this isn't "trolling" Alex. His reputation has been earned by his past actions, and now claiming everything is his, is like a "last nail in the coffin to many people".
Having said that, everyone makes their own choices. I can't (and wouldn't) tell anyone who to support or not. Speaking personally though, while I have admired his tenacity and dogged determination to keep trying again, the morality of repeatedly taking others down with him, goes very much against him and I would never trust any of his grids.
It's quite simple to everyone, Alex keeps trying, not letting failure be his accepted end, in other words, every time he gets knocked down, he gets back up and keeps going. That is the methods of a successful man, no matter what anyone says, because winners never quit, and quitters never win!
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