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I like to drop a post every now and then on another virtual universe I'm involved in developing, with a working name of Starlite Galaxies. It's a user-content generated world like SL and Opensim, but not based on their code. A complete new game engine has been written from the ground up in proprietary codebase using C++, utilizing the Vulkan API instead of OpenGL. The universe will not be compatible with opensim code, but we are discussing a bridge option down the road to allow opensim users to visit. The game is currently approaching alpha testing for which all slots are filled.
The top shot is a helmet readily available on 3D model sites that we use to test our handling of PBR materials and shaders. This one is reflecting the environment we dropped it in and running at 4910 fps on full blast graphics using a GeForce 3060 card (I believe this is the same helmet visible in the recent SL tutorial on their version of PBR)
The bottom image is an asteroid field with 50,000 physical objects all orbiting a central mass independently of one another. We wanted to find a breaking point, but only got the fps down to 720 fps.
We also are testing on a variety of lower end machines to find baselines for the graphics and physics. But if you want to go full-bore gaming using VR, controllers, joysticks, flight-sim equipment, etc., then all of that capability is already there and working. Probably would only want to use VR with your feet on the ground. We found flying ships in VR was...unsettling.
See my Facebook page for larger images: https://www.facebook.com/LunariaEmporium
The top shot is a helmet readily available on 3D model sites that we use to test our handling of PBR materials and shaders. This one is reflecting the environment we dropped it in and running at 4910 fps on full blast graphics using a GeForce 3060 card (I believe this is the same helmet visible in the recent SL tutorial on their version of PBR)
The bottom image is an asteroid field with 50,000 physical objects all orbiting a central mass independently of one another. We wanted to find a breaking point, but only got the fps down to 720 fps.
We also are testing on a variety of lower end machines to find baselines for the graphics and physics. But if you want to go full-bore gaming using VR, controllers, joysticks, flight-sim equipment, etc., then all of that capability is already there and working. Probably would only want to use VR with your feet on the ground. We found flying ships in VR was...unsettling.
See my Facebook page for larger images: https://www.facebook.com/LunariaEmporium
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@Arielle: When I say "OpenSim devs", I DO mean those who created OpenSim, the source code and everything.
I also said that there are people who believe that these slogans have always been an official part of OpenSim, of OpenSim's very concept. Therefore, these slogans must logically have been created by the same people as OpenSim itself. And these would be the developers.
You know it's wrong. I know it's wrong. Many others take this for an undeniable fact.
Also, there are no clothes for Ruth2? Fake news. I hope this is just you not knowing that Ruth2 clothes exist because they aren't available free and full-perm at every freebie store out there and not propaganda deliberately spread to keep people away from legal content.
I know at least four creators who made or still make mesh clothes for Ruth 2.0 from scratch. Taarna Welles, Hyacinth Jean (she also made her own body based on RuthToo and clothes for it), Loru Destiny, Klarabella Karamell. The latter two are good acquaintances of mine.
Taarna and Klara actually made something that you won't find anywhere for any ripped SL body, not for Athena, not for HG, not for Legacy, not for Reborn: medium-height shoes. These shoes were made for Ruth 2.0, and they don't even fit Athena & Co., only bodies from the Ruth2 family. Amongst the other things Klara makes are skirts in lengths and shapes that hardly anyone makes in SL and nobody copybots from there because the copybotters deem them not sexy enough.
Apart from that, Ruth2 bodies can also wear various Damien Fate and Clutterfly pieces of clothing. And let's not forget that BoM bodies, and there are at least five different BoM-enabled bodies in the Ruth2 family, can wear layer clothes as well.
Ruth 2.0 and descendants are actually easier to dress in non-racy, non-slutty, not primarily sexy, girl-next-door ways than Athena, HG, Legacy, Reborn, Kupra etc. will ever be. They even seem to be easier to dress warmly for winter sims where all the Athenas seemingly have to run around in microskirts or microdresses with bare legs in 4" spike-heeled footwear.
If there are no clothes that any Ruth2 body could possibly wear, how come my in-world sister Juno (Ruth2 v4) has 3,700 outfits in her inventory, probably covering a wider range of outfits you'll ever come across worn by Athenas? Oh, and she refuses to wear copybotted clothes.
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I also said that there are people who believe that these slogans have always been an official part of OpenSim, of OpenSim's very concept. Therefore, these slogans must logically have been created by the same people as OpenSim itself. And these would be the developers.
You know it's wrong. I know it's wrong. Many others take this for an undeniable fact.
Also, there are no clothes for Ruth2? Fake news. I hope this is just you not knowing that Ruth2 clothes exist because they aren't available free and full-perm at every freebie store out there and not propaganda deliberately spread to keep people away from legal content.
I know at least four creators who made or still make mesh clothes for Ruth 2.0 from scratch. Taarna Welles, Hyacinth Jean (she also made her own body based on RuthToo and clothes for it), Loru Destiny, Klarabella Karamell. The latter two are good acquaintances of mine.
Taarna and Klara actually made something that you won't find anywhere for any ripped SL body, not for Athena, not for HG, not for Legacy, not for Reborn: medium-height shoes. These shoes were made for Ruth 2.0, and they don't even fit Athena & Co., only bodies from the Ruth2 family. Amongst the other things Klara makes are skirts in lengths and shapes that hardly anyone makes in SL and nobody copybots from there because the copybotters deem them not sexy enough.
Apart from that, Ruth2 bodies can also wear various Damien Fate and Clutterfly pieces of clothing. And let's not forget that BoM bodies, and there are at least five different BoM-enabled bodies in the Ruth2 family, can wear layer clothes as well.
Ruth 2.0 and descendants are actually easier to dress in non-racy, non-slutty, not primarily sexy, girl-next-door ways than Athena, HG, Legacy, Reborn, Kupra etc. will ever be. They even seem to be easier to dress warmly for winter sims where all the Athenas seemingly have to run around in microskirts or microdresses with bare legs in 4" spike-heeled footwear.
If there are no clothes that any Ruth2 body could possibly wear, how come my in-world sister Juno (Ruth2 v4) has 3,700 outfits in her inventory, probably covering a wider range of outfits you'll ever come across worn by Athenas? Oh, and she refuses to wear copybotted clothes.
Yet your choice of wording implies exactly what you now admit is wrong. The people who might say that the Opensim dev's initiated and supported those slogans, are simply doing what they can to cast Opensim in a bad light, somewhat like you do. Agent provocateur's so to speak and there is a long history of those coming from SecondLife to do exactly that because of their fear that they will lose residents from there to come here. It is not that they actually believe it or don't know better. You seem to do what you can to validate their beliefs by continuing to bring it up.
Fake news on the Ruth/Roth clothing? I think not. All the fitted mesh clothing for those bodies can be put in a small store and have room left to spare. At best just some very basic styles that only noobies would wear. The more fashionestic among us do not see them as a realistic option. I personally like micro dresses but prefer 6 inch heels rather than 4. Thing is that regardless of your tastes in clothes, if the Ruth creators are not putting out the type of clothing the market is looking for, consumers are not going to be beating a path to your store. Complain and whine all you want but that is how it supply and demand works. If commercial opensim creators are not putting out what people want, then you should not be surprised if noone is buying or wearing their stuff. Anything from LK is now at least 8-10 years old in fashion style. I won't wear stuff in S/L even that is more then a year old because it looks dated. How much more so when it is a decade old and doesn't include some of the newer features that have been brought into the viewers. If your sister Juno likes it that's great but does she set the standard for everyone else? I'm not going to have my avatar wear clothing I don't like, why is that hard to understand? You want commercial creators to be more successful? Then get them to start putting out stuff that the market is looking for.
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Fake news on the Ruth/Roth clothing? I think not. All the fitted mesh clothing for those bodies can be put in a small store and have room left to spare. At best just some very basic styles that only noobies would wear. The more fashionestic among us do not see them as a realistic option. I personally like micro dresses but prefer 6 inch heels rather than 4. Thing is that regardless of your tastes in clothes, if the Ruth creators are not putting out the type of clothing the market is looking for, consumers are not going to be beating a path to your store. Complain and whine all you want but that is how it supply and demand works. If commercial opensim creators are not putting out what people want, then you should not be surprised if noone is buying or wearing their stuff. Anything from LK is now at least 8-10 years old in fashion style. I won't wear stuff in S/L even that is more then a year old because it looks dated. How much more so when it is a decade old and doesn't include some of the newer features that have been brought into the viewers. If your sister Juno likes it that's great but does she set the standard for everyone else? I'm not going to have my avatar wear clothing I don't like, why is that hard to understand? You want commercial creators to be more successful? Then get them to start putting out stuff that the market is looking for.
I love seeing original work here. Just seems so creative to me that people take it upon themselves to learn to do these things for themselves and to share. Its a process of see a need and do something about it to fill the need.
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And that "do something about it" should not always be "go to SL, rip it, take it to OpenSim and keep people from ever using legal alternatives".
I mean, people still copybot plain old park benches from SL although we have plenty of fully functional legal ones that don't necessarily look any worse.
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I mean, people still copybot plain old park benches from SL although we have plenty of fully functional legal ones that don't necessarily look any worse.
I won't.
I won't allow copybotting mafiya shills like you to silence me so they're unhindered in their spreading of propaganda and out-right lies.
If Luna wants my post gone, I'll leave it up to her to delete it.
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I won't allow copybotting mafiya shills like you to silence me so they're unhindered in their spreading of propaganda and out-right lies.
If Luna wants my post gone, I'll leave it up to her to delete it.
This will be a single but very large universe. There will literally be continents, planets, and space stations to live. The code for this game is not compatible with opensim, but we are considering eventually creating a bridge for opensim avatars to visit and explore
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Well that is too bad. It would be nice to have those capabilities in a metaverse configuration where we each like Opensim, have our own installation with travelling capability between them. That is what makes Opensim so unique in that we can each be masters of our own universe and still be a part of something greater. Hoping the developers will be looking to expand its capabilities to something like that because I think most of us are here for those sort of features more so then the enhanced eye candy.
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While Opensim manages to function enough for people to travel and have some common experiences, the shared code itself has splintered and become more fractured, making connections more difficult between island grids. Some grids use very old code and refuse to update; some use the newest code but have made their own changes to it, and they either share those changes or they keep them in-house. There are multiple physics engines and multiple scripting engines already where scripts and vehicles become disabled when moved from one to another. Eventually some grids will no longer be able to communicate well with others simply because they no longer share a common language. OS code would also take a monumental effort to upgrade it to current industry graphics rendering standards for which the will to do so among all the grids does not exist. For these reasons we decided to step away from the concept of separate grids for the sake of having a better more seamless experience. Users will have extensive control of their regions, nearly as you do here, but the core code base will be common to all and easily upgradeable, and the places you will be able to explore will be vast. Eventually the vision is to open limited doors to not only Opensim users, but also to other game franchises to allow their users to come in and explore also, which would be the beginnings of a real multiverse. But baby steps first.
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I can then understand why the code is proprietary for now. Perhaps some of it will open up in the future, once the place succeeds enough to where it's feasible to do so.
The fractures between Open Sim grids is why some of the third party viewer creators have dropped Open Sim support, or are backpedaling on that. Right now FS, Cool VL and Genesis are the only TPVs that function fully with Open Sim.
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The fractures between Open Sim grids is why some of the third party viewer creators have dropped Open Sim support, or are backpedaling on that. Right now FS, Cool VL and Genesis are the only TPVs that function fully with Open Sim.
It sounds good though I would have some quibbles about your thoughts on the state of Opensim in general. I would like to point out however that SecondLife itself is on a similar path with a Vulkan based viewer and the challenge for Opensim is whether it can adopt the changes that will be necessary for the viewer. At this point there is some question whether Linden Lab will be releasing the code for the viewer in a way that will allow TPV devs to continue supporting Opensim. Does Starlite have intentions of releasing their viewer code in a way that others can also contribute to it or will it be closed source?
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The main engine code will be closed for the foreseeable future. We've made the Vulkan API a separate module called by the main engine to make updates to Vulkan easier. The Vulkan team has been especially helpful with us.
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My focus in the years I've been building in Opensim is to create richly detailed structures and regions that are as realistic looking as possible, and in pursuit of that goal I've pushed the limits of the tools made available to users here. This new venture blows the doors off what is possible and I love being part of it :-)
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The GPU does all the heavy lifting so graphics cards with 8gb+ of memory handle it well. We are using 8 threads on the CPU which has a total of 16 threads, so it's at half capacity
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Hi. It would be great to see a link here, that we can take a look at it ourself. A little bit more information please about the name of viewer and name of this world with links.
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We're still in development at this time and approaching alpha testing soon, for which all slots are currently filled. This will be a completely separate world from Opensim since the two codes are not compatible. It will use it's own viewer for access. I'll post more pics and information as they become available.
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