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A curious message landed in my inbox today, bringing to light a common frustration within the virtual world: someone had picked up a Xara body on a specific grid and was stumped by its "Auto Alpha" feature. My immediate thought was, "Well, you should really go back to the grid where you acquired it and ask them for assistance." And if they can't provide the answers, it truly highlights a significant issue: why are entities distributing freebies of products they clearly don't understand or support themselves? This ongoing problem underscores precisely why, if you're genuinely seeking a LaraX or Xara body, it's always best to come directly to the source. Let's be clear: Vesti is the original creator of the Xara body, and any other versions or distributions you encounter are, frankly, the work of thieves. Ultimately, for genuine support, authentic products, and the true understanding of features like "Auto Alpha," trusting the original maker is paramount, as all other offerings are merely unauthorized imitations.
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I understand that you're upset about your stuff being taken, and I can see why that would be frustrating. At the same time, I hope you can understand my point of view: the same thing happened with my work, as you have it in your store and removed all my information (https://gyazo.com/9a6663119deff7bf36a044110df59232). I think it's important to recognize that fairness works both ways, and if we both respect each other's work, situations like this can be avoided in the future.
Regarding your work, Xara, you did a good job. And as for the problems, as many have said, just refer them back to where the material originally came from — you're not to blame.
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Regarding your work, Xara, you did a good job. And as for the problems, as many have said, just refer them back to where the material originally came from — you're not to blame.
those skins I received from a friend who told me I could box them and let people have them.. I never changed any names on them or remade them... but I see the creators name has changed (never even looked at them before now).. but nothing I did to cause that.. I just put them in a box if its the skins the heads came from a friend and its funny the boxes are under her name but the contents arent.. but I assure you I did not copybot any of these items nor did I take them to an 8.2 grid and back again.. they went from my inventory into the store we set up with her logo for heads.. Im sorry if some of these are yours I had no idea.. as for how creators' names change, no clue as I have never did anything to make that happen. Might have happened when I dropped an OAR file trying to restore something that went missing.
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Thank you, I appreciate the fact that you are speaking honestly, and I want to acknowledge that.
I understand that you may not be aware of the name changes or ownership issues. However, from my perspective, the result is the same: my work ended up in your store without my information attached, just as you are upset because your items were taken.
I believe that, regardless of how it happened, it is important to make sure creators are properly credited and that their work is not distributed without permission. In this case, the items you have are quite old, while I have updated my work in the meantime, so the version in your store is outdated compared to the current one I have created.
This situation could actually help many people, as it shows that there is no real benefit in taking copies — over time, they can become obsolete.
Ultimately, I hope things improve and that there will be more mutual respect.
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I understand that you may not be aware of the name changes or ownership issues. However, from my perspective, the result is the same: my work ended up in your store without my information attached, just as you are upset because your items were taken.
I believe that, regardless of how it happened, it is important to make sure creators are properly credited and that their work is not distributed without permission. In this case, the items you have are quite old, while I have updated my work in the meantime, so the version in your store is outdated compared to the current one I have created.
This situation could actually help many people, as it shows that there is no real benefit in taking copies — over time, they can become obsolete.
Ultimately, I hope things improve and that there will be more mutual respect.
I'm seriously wondering how you came to the conclusion that it's YOUR mesh body. You also copied it from SL and enhanced it with your scripts. Do I really need to mention that you can have the AI rewrite the scripts? Think about it. It's certainly all work and time-consuming, but to say "MINE" is certainly a bit of an exaggeration.
But fundamentally, you're absolutely right. It's disgusting that Sim owners or Grid owners "acquire" items from other grids, make them their own, and then boast about how awesome they actually stole them. Unfortunately, I haven't found a real solution to stop this yet.
I'm no different with the things I've scripted. I find many genitals I've scripted almost everywhere. Not that anyone has ever asked if I agree to this. No, it's assumed.
There's basically only one thing that helps: If you're certain the user didn't pick up the device from you and they now want support, send them back to the SIM provider where they picked up the device. Tell the user right away that you're sorry, but that you can't and don't want to check what might have been changed.
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But fundamentally, you're absolutely right. It's disgusting that Sim owners or Grid owners "acquire" items from other grids, make them their own, and then boast about how awesome they actually stole them. Unfortunately, I haven't found a real solution to stop this yet.
I'm no different with the things I've scripted. I find many genitals I've scripted almost everywhere. Not that anyone has ever asked if I agree to this. No, it's assumed.
There's basically only one thing that helps: If you're certain the user didn't pick up the device from you and they now want support, send them back to the SIM provider where they picked up the device. Tell the user right away that you're sorry, but that you can't and don't want to check what might have been changed.
the Xara Body is not LaraX but it is patterned after it.. so many differences in the body.. drop them side by side on the ground and see
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"Don't steal my copybotted shit." XD One of jimmy Olsen's signs that he made ironically. I see people using it seriously on their regions and cry laughing every time.
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what would be really cool is a tp board that will take you to all these different stores with the other bodies. or a list we could pass around. I try police just putting anything in my grid, I tell them it must be your own creation. Otherwise you have to get permission from creator to share it. Might be a hard ask but its a start.
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All easier said than done when resellers throw all existing landmarks out of boxes, either to conceal where they got that stuff (to my best knowledge, it isn't possible to pick up the Xara boxes themselves) or to throw out "unnecessary cruft" which also includes any and all notecards or both. Especially when they god-mode or OAR the box contents (or the copybotted boxes themselves) to make themselves the creators.
As I've said elsewhere: Whenever someone launches a new freebie sim nowadays, they intentionally go into direct competition against R. Lion, Starchild, Darkhearts, Sciattisi, Tierra de Volcanes etc. for visitors and for OSW ranking. Basically, everyone wants to be the next R. Lion. This, however, requires not only the newest hottest clothes for all the newest hottest SL bodies, but it requires the bodies themselves to be available in their shops. They MUST have Legacy, and they MUST have LaraX, no matter how, because that's what (allegedly) everyone wants. Everything else would a) attract fewer customers and b) boost competing freebie sims.
Of course, they don't provide any customer service. I mean, how could they? Just because they've got that stuff in their stores, doesn't mean they know how it works. Not to mention they can't fix what's broken. They offer it as-is, and their customers have to deal with it.
Of course, they don't provide upgrades either. Just a few days ago, I've come across a hopelessly outdated copy of Simona on another sim. Freebie "merchants" often don't seem to care how old the stuff in the boxes is, just as long as there's the right brand name on the boxes. And the more often "copybot/rebox, put in store, make no-transfer" is repeated, the farther these outdated copies will spread, and the fewer people will use the most up-to-date versions because they will simply never know a) that newer versions exist, and b) where to get them. We've seen it all before with the Clubmaster (2.0 is vastly more widespread in stores than 2.1), Ruth 2.0 (I keep seeing RC#2 or even the 2016 test release in stores, but then again, this made it possible for me to collect and put up all versions for historical purposes), the OSW beacon, the Satyr Farm etc.
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As I've said elsewhere: Whenever someone launches a new freebie sim nowadays, they intentionally go into direct competition against R. Lion, Starchild, Darkhearts, Sciattisi, Tierra de Volcanes etc. for visitors and for OSW ranking. Basically, everyone wants to be the next R. Lion. This, however, requires not only the newest hottest clothes for all the newest hottest SL bodies, but it requires the bodies themselves to be available in their shops. They MUST have Legacy, and they MUST have LaraX, no matter how, because that's what (allegedly) everyone wants. Everything else would a) attract fewer customers and b) boost competing freebie sims.
Of course, they don't provide any customer service. I mean, how could they? Just because they've got that stuff in their stores, doesn't mean they know how it works. Not to mention they can't fix what's broken. They offer it as-is, and their customers have to deal with it.
Of course, they don't provide upgrades either. Just a few days ago, I've come across a hopelessly outdated copy of Simona on another sim. Freebie "merchants" often don't seem to care how old the stuff in the boxes is, just as long as there's the right brand name on the boxes. And the more often "copybot/rebox, put in store, make no-transfer" is repeated, the farther these outdated copies will spread, and the fewer people will use the most up-to-date versions because they will simply never know a) that newer versions exist, and b) where to get them. We've seen it all before with the Clubmaster (2.0 is vastly more widespread in stores than 2.1), Ruth 2.0 (I keep seeing RC#2 or even the 2016 test release in stores, but then again, this made it possible for me to collect and put up all versions for historical purposes), the OSW beacon, the Satyr Farm etc.
Why "put up for historical purposes" when later versions are far superior? Especially the beacon and... stuff from 2016?
Better to guide people to those who are willing to put the work in to provide quality products, with a box of landmarks.
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Better to guide people to those who are willing to put the work in to provide quality products, with a box of landmarks.
For many freebie sim owners, it's because it's what they've "found on the Hypergrid", i.e. in other random freebie stores. If they've never come across the Clubmaster 2.1 in a random freebie store, and they don't know what the current home sim of the Clubmaster is, they may not even know that a newer Clubmaster exists, much less where to obtain it in a box. Same for Satyr's creations. I wouldn't wonder if the beacons in some of these boxes won't even connect to OSW anymore because they're considered unsafe.
In fact, except for the Clubmaster and the OSW beacon, many seem to not even have the foggiest idea what it is that they're slapping against their walls. And frankly, they don't care as long as it fills their stores up nicely.
Tell them to remove their Athena 3.6 box because even the Athena team have advised store owners to remove all Athenas older than 4 because they're dangerously complex, what with their extra layers for layer clothing support (which got even more obsolete when Athena 6 with BoM came out). If they've still got the Clubmaster 2.0, give them a Clubmaster 2.1 box and tell them to use it to replace the Clubmaster 2.0. Most of the time, nothing will happen. The store owner probably won't even know what you're talking about.
In my case, it's because you never know who might want to obtain older versions for what reasons. Not for daily-driving on their avatars, but for checking them out, e.g. to write down the history of OpenSim-made mesh bodies.
I'm not only offering the old versions. As for female bodies, I'm mainly offering
* the Ruth 2.0 test release from 2016 (flagged outdated in one of my stores)
* Ruth 2.0 RC#1 from late 2017 (flagged outdated in one of my stores)
* Ruth 2.0 RC#2 from February, 2018 (flagged outdated in one of my stores)
* Ruth 2.0 RC#3 + the Extras box from December, 2018
* Ruth2 v4 in all three variants + all additional boxes from August/September, 2020 (seriously, this body has a BoM scripting implementation that makes everything else pale in comparison)
As for male bodies, I'm mainly offering
* Roth 2.0 RC#1 December, 2018
* Roth2 v2 in both variants + all additional boxes from May, 2020
Now I'm waiting for the Max project to pick up again, and one of my stores has already got empty shelves prepared for its eventual releases.
And I am SO VERY MUCH NOT going to rip out everything with "Ruth" and "Roth" in its names in my stores and replace it with landmarks or teleporters to where people can get Legacy and LaraX and Gianni and the like.
The bodies which I offer may not be up there with 2025 Legacy Perky. But they're free-as-in-GPL, they're open-source, they're LEGAL, they're made in and for OpenSim, and I've got the GitHub links to prove it.
The Ruth 2.0 test release is actually far from being the oldest content I offer. I'm among the few who have installed OpenSim-made layer clothes both from before copybotting SL mesh has started as well as from the 2020s. I've got layer underwear, layer lingerie, layer hosiery, layer swimwear and classic, SLUV, non-EvoX layer make-up. In fact, I don't have anything EvoX. My hair is from Anette Hummel and not from Doux. I'm not offering what's the hottest stuff on SL. I'm offering what can still be useful to some, but what's either fading away from stores, or what has become entirely unavailable.
And, again, I've got very good reasons to both keep them in my stores and not replace them with landmarks or teleporters to freebie sims where you can get ripped SL stuff.
I do plan to eventually offer a set of landmarks to places where people can get more content. But that'll be places like Savvy or Klarakunterbunt or Uzuri Common or the PSSMG Freebie Mall that isn't even listed on OSW, and that still looks like you've travelled back in time to 2012 or earlier.
My target audience are those who do not aim to deck their avatar out in L$15,000 and ARC1,200,000 worth of stolen SL content. Those wide-eyed idealists who take the challenge upon themselves to build all-purpose daily-driver avatars out of only legal content. My secondary target audience are those who do use SL bodies, but who don't aim to build the Lamborghini Revuelto of avatars for free, and who aim for an individual style and practicality instead.
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In fact, except for the Clubmaster and the OSW beacon, many seem to not even have the foggiest idea what it is that they're slapping against their walls. And frankly, they don't care as long as it fills their stores up nicely.
Tell them to remove their Athena 3.6 box because even the Athena team have advised store owners to remove all Athenas older than 4 because they're dangerously complex, what with their extra layers for layer clothing support (which got even more obsolete when Athena 6 with BoM came out). If they've still got the Clubmaster 2.0, give them a Clubmaster 2.1 box and tell them to use it to replace the Clubmaster 2.0. Most of the time, nothing will happen. The store owner probably won't even know what you're talking about.
In my case, it's because you never know who might want to obtain older versions for what reasons. Not for daily-driving on their avatars, but for checking them out, e.g. to write down the history of OpenSim-made mesh bodies.
I'm not only offering the old versions. As for female bodies, I'm mainly offering
* the Ruth 2.0 test release from 2016 (flagged outdated in one of my stores)
* Ruth 2.0 RC#1 from late 2017 (flagged outdated in one of my stores)
* Ruth 2.0 RC#2 from February, 2018 (flagged outdated in one of my stores)
* Ruth 2.0 RC#3 + the Extras box from December, 2018
* Ruth2 v4 in all three variants + all additional boxes from August/September, 2020 (seriously, this body has a BoM scripting implementation that makes everything else pale in comparison)
As for male bodies, I'm mainly offering
* Roth 2.0 RC#1 December, 2018
* Roth2 v2 in both variants + all additional boxes from May, 2020
Now I'm waiting for the Max project to pick up again, and one of my stores has already got empty shelves prepared for its eventual releases.
And I am SO VERY MUCH NOT going to rip out everything with "Ruth" and "Roth" in its names in my stores and replace it with landmarks or teleporters to where people can get Legacy and LaraX and Gianni and the like.
The bodies which I offer may not be up there with 2025 Legacy Perky. But they're free-as-in-GPL, they're open-source, they're LEGAL, they're made in and for OpenSim, and I've got the GitHub links to prove it.
The Ruth 2.0 test release is actually far from being the oldest content I offer. I'm among the few who have installed OpenSim-made layer clothes both from before copybotting SL mesh has started as well as from the 2020s. I've got layer underwear, layer lingerie, layer hosiery, layer swimwear and classic, SLUV, non-EvoX layer make-up. In fact, I don't have anything EvoX. My hair is from Anette Hummel and not from Doux. I'm not offering what's the hottest stuff on SL. I'm offering what can still be useful to some, but what's either fading away from stores, or what has become entirely unavailable.
And, again, I've got very good reasons to both keep them in my stores and not replace them with landmarks or teleporters to freebie sims where you can get ripped SL stuff.
I do plan to eventually offer a set of landmarks to places where people can get more content. But that'll be places like Savvy or Klarakunterbunt or Uzuri Common or the PSSMG Freebie Mall that isn't even listed on OSW, and that still looks like you've travelled back in time to 2012 or earlier.
My target audience are those who do not aim to deck their avatar out in L$15,000 and ARC1,200,000 worth of stolen SL content. Those wide-eyed idealists who take the challenge upon themselves to build all-purpose daily-driver avatars out of only legal content. My secondary target audience are those who do use SL bodies, but who don't aim to build the Lamborghini Revuelto of avatars for free, and who aim for an individual style and practicality instead.
It's Áine Caoimhe's old sim Paramour Shopping which is being maintained by Walter Balazic now. You can get all her creations there, at least the most recent official releases, including all her statues.
https://opensimworld.com/hop/87870
Don't worry about the sim being listed as offline. It's the beacon that hasn't been reset in three years. The sim is online, I can guarantee you that. Before Walter takes it offline, Littlefield as a whole will shut down.
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https://opensimworld.com/hop/87870
Don't worry about the sim being listed as offline. It's the beacon that hasn't been reset in three years. The sim is online, I can guarantee you that. Before Walter takes it offline, Littlefield as a whole will shut down.
Ah, good.
I don't know how recently you've visited Paramour Shopping. But I guess it was only a couple of years ago that Walter replaced the Clubmaster 2.0 which Áine had parked there (she had apparently never offered 2.1 on her own land) with the Clubmaster 2.1. For a brief period, it even offered the not-quite-so-official, not-quite-finished 2.2 version which Áine had made for her Speakeasy club, but which she had never officially boxed. Due to quite a bit of confusion over what's official and what isn't, Walter put 2.1 back in place.
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I don't know how recently you've visited Paramour Shopping. But I guess it was only a couple of years ago that Walter replaced the Clubmaster 2.0 which Áine had parked there (she had apparently never offered 2.1 on her own land) with the Clubmaster 2.1. For a brief period, it even offered the not-quite-so-official, not-quite-finished 2.2 version which Áine had made for her Speakeasy club, but which she had never officially boxed. Due to quite a bit of confusion over what's official and what isn't, Walter put 2.1 back in place.
@JupiterRowland Can't speak for the rest, but I don't 'compete'. There is absolute zero value (actually, minus value considering costs) for the time I spent. I don't even have registration open in my grid. So whether you approve or not, there is no 'competition' behind. I am the first one to support AMAZING, 100% ORIGINAL, creators like Valerie's scripts (I mean, her rental system is AS good as CasperVend) and Luna
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You may not. But not exactly few others are.
Also, yes, Valerie's rental system has to be the best out there.
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Also, yes, Valerie's rental system has to be the best out there.
my hubby did update the script in theTrianon-Complex's dance balls so they can handle more than 81 couples dances and you can see what dance you're doing on the page info area. its not a freebie I would hand out. and that Simona body might not have been so outdated.. we also built that body. but its not as HOT as Xara is..
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That Simona was a 4.2.x, I think. I don't know how big the difference to 5.0.6 is, but there has to be a difference.
But they both have their places. Xara is for those who want the newest hottest body possible, but who dislike Legacy, probably also because so many Legacy avatars have completely ludicrous shapes that are almost reminiscent of HG.
Simona is for those who want to upgrade from Athena without throwing away their collection of clothes, also seeing as you can't get entire styles of clothes for LaraX/Xara or for Legacy or for Reborn or for Waifu or for Kupra... I mean, try and dress Legacy credibly for winter only with content readily available in OpenSim.
To my best knowledge, one advantage of Simona over Athena, other than auto-alpha, is that you can safely detach and re-attach the body on the Hypergrid without the risk of it blowing up in your face, very much unlike all those bodies that start with "A".
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But they both have their places. Xara is for those who want the newest hottest body possible, but who dislike Legacy, probably also because so many Legacy avatars have completely ludicrous shapes that are almost reminiscent of HG.
Simona is for those who want to upgrade from Athena without throwing away their collection of clothes, also seeing as you can't get entire styles of clothes for LaraX/Xara or for Legacy or for Reborn or for Waifu or for Kupra... I mean, try and dress Legacy credibly for winter only with content readily available in OpenSim.
To my best knowledge, one advantage of Simona over Athena, other than auto-alpha, is that you can safely detach and re-attach the body on the Hypergrid without the risk of it blowing up in your face, very much unlike all those bodies that start with "A".
Your Xara is brilliant, Essensual, and it doesnt glitch. Love the way you explain auto alphas too.
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the newest update should have fixed everything.. even the Xengine grid thing.. ( yes some are left)
and a little trick to any one who hypergrids alot.. if you go to a hypergrid and you ralpha is bad.. remove the hud and body readd them ( while you are on that grid reset the scripts.. and your hud works perfectly, an dyou can alpha those bits sticking through
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and a little trick to any one who hypergrids alot.. if you go to a hypergrid and you ralpha is bad.. remove the hud and body readd them ( while you are on that grid reset the scripts.. and your hud works perfectly, an dyou can alpha those bits sticking through