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https://www.osgrid.online/news/asset-reset/
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Many many assets from SL or Sacrarium contains "linked" textures, mesh or even scripts. If author close acces - assets "die" and is missed. Locally you will see from cache some time. http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Dynamic_textures
When you try to restore "linked" asset link will be restored and will be valid, but......
Are link is valid and active? And also: WHERE is pointed this link???
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When you try to restore "linked" asset link will be restored and will be valid, but......
Are link is valid and active? And also: WHERE is pointed this link???
The latest update is that the Grid will clear inventory asstes March 21:
"We plan to go offline for a week starting on March 21. You have almost 6 weeks to backup/save/transfer/etc to iar/oar/alts as you can." https://www.osgrid.online/news/asset-reset/
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"We plan to go offline for a week starting on March 21. You have almost 6 weeks to backup/save/transfer/etc to iar/oar/alts as you can." https://www.osgrid.online/news/asset-reset/
OSGrid are impressive tech-wise and that tech has helped opensim immensely over the years. But the human leadership of OSGrid has gone mad. It happens. Steering clear of OSGrid for more reliable, trustworthy opensim experiences and assets. Way, way distant from OSG's insane managers.
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As you all know, I don't have an account on OSGrid, I have a permanent ban on access to LBSA, I have had my own server for a long time (small, but withstood the attacks of giants like Sacrarium and Avitron).
And yet, I appreciate the work of the OSGrid team!
I can't support the pathetic boasting of people who don't even know how much the OSGrid asset server weighs in kilograms (more than all the naive haters)!!! Yes, even I can take on tens of thousands of accounts! But what happens when they start religiously uploading DEFECTIVE IAR and OAR archives? What happens when it turns out that they are full of invalid links and viruses?
It's easy to write exaggerated and spectacular speeches and boastful empty words!
Now I understand that I was in vain worried that they only hate me:) These are people who hate EVERYONE who is alive and can!
Despite our diametrically opposed understandings on many issues:
I FULLY SUPPORT THE OSGRID TEAM!
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And yet, I appreciate the work of the OSGrid team!
I can't support the pathetic boasting of people who don't even know how much the OSGrid asset server weighs in kilograms (more than all the naive haters)!!! Yes, even I can take on tens of thousands of accounts! But what happens when they start religiously uploading DEFECTIVE IAR and OAR archives? What happens when it turns out that they are full of invalid links and viruses?
It's easy to write exaggerated and spectacular speeches and boastful empty words!
Now I understand that I was in vain worried that they only hate me:) These are people who hate EVERYONE who is alive and can!
Despite our diametrically opposed understandings on many issues:
I FULLY SUPPORT THE OSGRID TEAM!
I completely agree with Hicks, the most important thing is good performance and you have to get rid of old garbage, if there is no other way, you should do the reset and we start a new era and anyone who leaves OS Grid now is not worth joining it again later.
Ich stimme Hicks voll und ganz zu, das wichtigste ist gute performances un man muss sich von altem müll trennen, wenn es nicht anders möglich ist sollte man den reset durchführen und wir starten neu in ein neues Zeitalter und wer jetzt OS Grid verlässt ist es nicht wert diesem später wieder beizutreten.
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Ich stimme Hicks voll und ganz zu, das wichtigste ist gute performances un man muss sich von altem müll trennen, wenn es nicht anders möglich ist sollte man den reset durchführen und wir starten neu in ein neues Zeitalter und wer jetzt OS Grid verlässt ist es nicht wert diesem später wieder beizutreten.
What I haven't seen discussed are items purchased elsewhere by an OSGrid avatar, especially from the Kitely Market. Fortunately, as a merchant on the Market and as a Gloebit merchant, it is easy for me to redeliver items purchased previously, and if you end up on a different grid, I'll personally travel there and hand-deliver replacements on request.
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At yesterday's Wolf Territories grid meetup, Lone Wolf said something about 87 OARs having recently been uploaded to new sims in the Wolf Territories.
Probably completely unrelated. [/Sarcasm]
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Probably completely unrelated. [/Sarcasm]
We are using OpenSim NGC which is downloadable from the OpenSim NGC GitHub https://github.com/OpenSim-NGC/OpenSim-Tranquillity however the website and control software is built for a multi node high availability infrastructure and won't work on a small region setup because it's custom built to deal with a large number of servers/database nodes.
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Osgrid admins said to leave defective assets alone in the hope that they would start to work again as the asset database was being fixed. I don't recall seeing any messages from admins to do IAR's though one should always do that every few weeks. If Osgrid should close which I highly doubt @Pagane, the GAME IS NOT OVER. There are many other grids and the ability to set up one's own. There are also other Opensim develop[ers who can continue developing the platform and do.
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I see ABSOLUTELY NO reason for panic and complaints!
The OSGrid administration warned you a few months ago to make an archive! Did you do it? Ummm no...
The OSGrid administration warned you a few months ago to clean up unnecessary and defective assets! Did you do it? Ummm no...
The specialists are doing the impossible to save the assets that you did not want to archive yourself!
Here in Bulgaria we say: "You didn't roar while you were eating the meatballs! Right? Why are you roaring now???"
And regarding the advertising attack started by the "competing grids" - run to our grid which will offer you thousands of new ways to ban and forbid and... Please don't fail! Only one or two of the "competing" grids have the potential to accept even a part of what OSGrid stores! Don't lie to people!!!
The truth is that if OSGrid closes, "THE GAME IS OVER"!
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The OSGrid administration warned you a few months ago to make an archive! Did you do it? Ummm no...
The OSGrid administration warned you a few months ago to clean up unnecessary and defective assets! Did you do it? Ummm no...
The specialists are doing the impossible to save the assets that you did not want to archive yourself!
Here in Bulgaria we say: "You didn't roar while you were eating the meatballs! Right? Why are you roaring now???"
And regarding the advertising attack started by the "competing grids" - run to our grid which will offer you thousands of new ways to ban and forbid and... Please don't fail! Only one or two of the "competing" grids have the potential to accept even a part of what OSGrid stores! Don't lie to people!!!
The truth is that if OSGrid closes, "THE GAME IS OVER"!
OSgrid has spent eight months offline from 2014 to 2015 after a RAID array in their asset server had failed. It took that long for the data to be rescued.
And yet, we're still here. In fact, if that crash hadn't occurred, quite a few grids would have spent more time in insignificance or not exist at all. People didn't sit and wait for OSgrid to come back twiddling their thumbs. They simply went elsewhere or made their own "elsewhere".
If OSgrid closes, other grids will grow a lot. And we'll have one or two dozen new grids in no time. If the Hypergrid lacks capacity, it makes capacity.
Besides, I think only newbies only have an avatar in OSgrid. I'm pretty sure that even the entire grid staff have backup avatars elsewhere. I know quite a few grid admins with fallback avatars on other grids (even though these fallback alts are often older than their main avatars). That's nothing to be ashamed of.
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And yet, we're still here. In fact, if that crash hadn't occurred, quite a few grids would have spent more time in insignificance or not exist at all. People didn't sit and wait for OSgrid to come back twiddling their thumbs. They simply went elsewhere or made their own "elsewhere".
If OSgrid closes, other grids will grow a lot. And we'll have one or two dozen new grids in no time. If the Hypergrid lacks capacity, it makes capacity.
Besides, I think only newbies only have an avatar in OSgrid. I'm pretty sure that even the entire grid staff have backup avatars elsewhere. I know quite a few grid admins with fallback avatars on other grids (even though these fallback alts are often older than their main avatars). That's nothing to be ashamed of.
You know it's nostalgia. Many of us began our OpenSim migration there. It's the first and the oldest. I don't think we need to compete in this virtual life. I hope we all make it. I hope they can recover some stuff and make people happy who didn't have backups. Not because they are negligent just because frankly...life happens. And sometimes we don't have backups. We've all been there. Again, I hope we all make it:)
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Don't think so. Opensim is more existing through all the small grids on homecomputer. Then you have some big grids that could have same function like OSgrid. Everyone has many avis/accounts on different grids. Meeting points are already 3 bigger ones and german party folk will dance until they die lol
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Hello everyone,
As a technician for maintaining OSgrid, I want to emphasize that the issue at hand is complex and requires careful consideration. We are taking the necessary time to analyze the situation to ensure we make the best possible decision in the interest of OSgrid and its community.
We understand your concerns and are committed to providing more communication on this matter in the coming hours or days. However, prolonged debates in the comments are unlikely to bring positive outcomes and may only add unnecessary stress.
Rest assured that we are doing everything possible to keep OSgrid in the best condition. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Best regards,
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As a technician for maintaining OSgrid, I want to emphasize that the issue at hand is complex and requires careful consideration. We are taking the necessary time to analyze the situation to ensure we make the best possible decision in the interest of OSgrid and its community.
We understand your concerns and are committed to providing more communication on this matter in the coming hours or days. However, prolonged debates in the comments are unlikely to bring positive outcomes and may only add unnecessary stress.
Rest assured that we are doing everything possible to keep OSgrid in the best condition. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Best regards,
Perhaps some words about this tragedy. Opensim lived from OSgrid and has one big advantage no other grid has: You can connect with opensimulator to OSgrid with your own homecomputer and you don't have to care for all the asset database. Your own home computer is not blowing up with all the asset stuff from visitors but you have full control of your own sims on your own computer. It is a very elegant solution and all for free. Everyone has an OSgrid avi or even 100 over the years. Most start opensim with an OSgrid Avi because it is historical grown grid as the first "opensim" grid for developing. It was always the first grid with the newest opensimulator version and of course everyone knew the risk in it that something like now could happen. It is not just one of many grids. It is the heart of opensim. That's why it is funded so that development can go on but free for everyone. I read a lot of developer protocols over the years and it was always transparent and for anyone to join to help. A masterpiece of open source community and role model. There are not many open source communities that are so open and transparent but here we can really say it is role model for such a work. YOu can complain about the results and complain about anything but OSgrid is as open source community a role model.
Perhaps this had to be said here. Now!
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Perhaps this had to be said here. Now!
A small addition: Osgrid is not the only grid that allows you to attach your own region running on your PC or elsewhere, NeverGrid and recently Aviverse also do it, it would be interesting to compile the information to complete this list.
Then on the organization of OpenSim, I am not sure that the developers had thought about all these asset problems at the beginning and it seems very late to propose a redesign of the system. We can regret that personal inventories cannot be saved on your own PC as a viewer option for example. Or that the asset base is not distributed for all grids (still optional...) with a fault tolerance system like the dark web content distribution system...
BUT it is true that strangely OpenSim does not seem to interest the youngest and that the team of developer(s) will perhaps quickly get tired, especially if we add this type of progress to them.
I also regret this race for new functions (to follow SL?) which means that we often add new ones (PBR being the latest) without finalizing functions like HyperGrid which always seem to have problems. It also leads to the obligation to always have more powerful PCs for the servers but also for the Viewers! This does not help to come those who cannot afford high-performance graphics cards...
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Then on the organization of OpenSim, I am not sure that the developers had thought about all these asset problems at the beginning and it seems very late to propose a redesign of the system. We can regret that personal inventories cannot be saved on your own PC as a viewer option for example. Or that the asset base is not distributed for all grids (still optional...) with a fault tolerance system like the dark web content distribution system...
BUT it is true that strangely OpenSim does not seem to interest the youngest and that the team of developer(s) will perhaps quickly get tired, especially if we add this type of progress to them.
I also regret this race for new functions (to follow SL?) which means that we often add new ones (PBR being the latest) without finalizing functions like HyperGrid which always seem to have problems. It also leads to the obligation to always have more powerful PCs for the servers but also for the Viewers! This does not help to come those who cannot afford high-performance graphics cards...
Changes in Second Life inevitably have to be taken over by Firestorm for Second Life. If Firestorm for Second Life changes something, then so does Firestorm for OpenSim. There's only one common codebase for both; they're just compiled using different build flags. And if Firestorm for OpenSim changes something, then OpenSim itself has to follow suit in order to still have a good, compatible viewer.
Thing is, when Second Life introduces a new feature, it currently tends to also remove an old feature. This means: Firestorm for Second Life has to remove it because it can't co-exist with the new feature there. If Firestorm for Second Life removes it, it also disappears from Firestorm for OpenSim. And this means that OpenSim itself will have to change accordingly.
This happened when EEP was introduced: Windlight was removed because it couldn't co-exist with EEP.
PBR was not quite the same, but similar. PBR was also taken as a chance to reduce the complexity of meshes in Second Life. I mean, Second Life had already supported Blinn-Phong normal maps that simulate bumpy surfaces or small surface details. It has optionally been part of the Advanced Lighting Model for many years already.
But hardly any creator used them. Instead, they kept building their stuff for potato computers, for the old Forward Lighting which doesn't support bump maps or normal maps. They added surface bumps and surface details to the meshes, making them ridiculously complex, so that their creations look great on absolute toasters with on-board graphics at the lowest graphics settings possible. These super-detailed surfaces actually bogged computers down more than a bump map or a normal map could.
So what Linden Lab did was: When PBR was introduced to the official viewer, the Advanced Lighting Model was hard-coded to on. The old and simpler Forward Lighting was fully discarded. The one justification for content creators to build with 500 surfaces what could just as well work with two surfaces plus a bump map was removed. And the Lindens told the Firestorm devs to follow suit if they still wanted Firestorm to be allowed as a Second Life viewer.
Since Firestorm for Second Life had to introduce PBR (to please SL users) and remove Forward Lighting and turn the ALM permanently on (to please the Lindens), Firestorm for OpenSim had to do the same. Again, one and the same codebase.
And since Firestorm for OpenSim had to introduce PBR, OpenSim itself had no other choice but to introduce PBR, too.
By the way, there used to be a time when Firestorm for OpenSim had its own codebase. It saw exactly zero maintenance. Firestorm doesn't have dedicated, specialised OpenSim devs. They've got 20 developers. 19 of them are only in Second Life. Only one is in both Second Life (primarily) and OpenSim (when necessary). This ended with two options. Either Firestorm for OpenSim is discontinued altogether. Or it's merged with Firestorm for Second Life again. Fortunately, they did the latter.
Another by the way: Firestorm 7 doesn't require brand-new, top-of-the-line graphics hardware. I'm using upper-mid-range hardware from 2018. Six-core Ryzen, 16GB of RAM, Radeon RX 590 with 8GB of VRAM. Anyone with an actual high-end gaming rig would call this a hopelessly outdated toaster. But it runs Firestorm 7 with ALM permanently on just fine, even with shadows on. And you don't have to fire up all PBR bells and whistles at parties.
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Thing is, when Second Life introduces a new feature, it currently tends to also remove an old feature. This means: Firestorm for Second Life has to remove it because it can't co-exist with the new feature there. If Firestorm for Second Life removes it, it also disappears from Firestorm for OpenSim. And this means that OpenSim itself will have to change accordingly.
This happened when EEP was introduced: Windlight was removed because it couldn't co-exist with EEP.
PBR was not quite the same, but similar. PBR was also taken as a chance to reduce the complexity of meshes in Second Life. I mean, Second Life had already supported Blinn-Phong normal maps that simulate bumpy surfaces or small surface details. It has optionally been part of the Advanced Lighting Model for many years already.
But hardly any creator used them. Instead, they kept building their stuff for potato computers, for the old Forward Lighting which doesn't support bump maps or normal maps. They added surface bumps and surface details to the meshes, making them ridiculously complex, so that their creations look great on absolute toasters with on-board graphics at the lowest graphics settings possible. These super-detailed surfaces actually bogged computers down more than a bump map or a normal map could.
So what Linden Lab did was: When PBR was introduced to the official viewer, the Advanced Lighting Model was hard-coded to on. The old and simpler Forward Lighting was fully discarded. The one justification for content creators to build with 500 surfaces what could just as well work with two surfaces plus a bump map was removed. And the Lindens told the Firestorm devs to follow suit if they still wanted Firestorm to be allowed as a Second Life viewer.
Since Firestorm for Second Life had to introduce PBR (to please SL users) and remove Forward Lighting and turn the ALM permanently on (to please the Lindens), Firestorm for OpenSim had to do the same. Again, one and the same codebase.
And since Firestorm for OpenSim had to introduce PBR, OpenSim itself had no other choice but to introduce PBR, too.
By the way, there used to be a time when Firestorm for OpenSim had its own codebase. It saw exactly zero maintenance. Firestorm doesn't have dedicated, specialised OpenSim devs. They've got 20 developers. 19 of them are only in Second Life. Only one is in both Second Life (primarily) and OpenSim (when necessary). This ended with two options. Either Firestorm for OpenSim is discontinued altogether. Or it's merged with Firestorm for Second Life again. Fortunately, they did the latter.
Another by the way: Firestorm 7 doesn't require brand-new, top-of-the-line graphics hardware. I'm using upper-mid-range hardware from 2018. Six-core Ryzen, 16GB of RAM, Radeon RX 590 with 8GB of VRAM. Anyone with an actual high-end gaming rig would call this a hopelessly outdated toaster. But it runs Firestorm 7 with ALM permanently on just fine, even with shadows on. And you don't have to fire up all PBR bells and whistles at parties.
Thanks Mister OpenSim's History :-)
Yes I understand that Firestorm only keeps one viewer in fact but there was a time when there were more viewers, some of which were based on the open source code of FS, why couldn't this continue with a version dedicated to Opensim maybe even "coded" and validated by the opensim development? No need to change it often if we just debug and optimize opensim without worrying about SL.
(what is a potato computer?)
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Yes I understand that Firestorm only keeps one viewer in fact but there was a time when there were more viewers, some of which were based on the open source code of FS, why couldn't this continue with a version dedicated to Opensim maybe even "coded" and validated by the opensim development? No need to change it often if we just debug and optimize opensim without worrying about SL.
(what is a potato computer?)
A potato computer is a toaster. A machine utterly underpowered for the task (whichever task).
To take an extreme example, a 15-year-old cheapo laptop with Intel GMA on-board graphics for OpenSim.
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To take an extreme example, a 15-year-old cheapo laptop with Intel GMA on-board graphics for OpenSim.
Thank you, I couldn't help but laugh thinking of Mr Potato turning around asking for his angry eyes :-)
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It doesn't really help that a small handful of spare-time OS devs constantly have to keep up with Linden Lab's paid full-time dev staff.
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There is only one coding core dev now afaik, so sure but then I think Core is very difficult if no impossible to get into unlike the past when there were more core devs. Up to 2015 there was a block against any viewer dev joining core who had been invoolved with developing any part of the viewer code in the previous 6 months for potential licensing problems.
It would be the easiest if there were viewer devs who belonged to the OS core developers.
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It would be the easiest if there were viewer devs who belonged to the OS core developers.
One can also download and use the Cool VL viewer which has both the new and old renderer in it and can switch on the fly. People cam download it here: http://sldev.free.fr/
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It is easy explained. No 20 years old knows anymore openGL games. MacOS doesn't support openGL since 13 years already. The whole software would have been made completely new from the scratch. Starting with secure encrypted protocols like Matrix that would solve also the hypergridding problem like you can see in Thirdroom, which is also open source. The whole software is not built for multithreading to use the whole power of a processor so that you can take a cheap aldi Laptop for this game. The physics and engine is not made to leave all the scripts to cheat as if you pretend you have rl physics. Would need a complete new engine with physics like unreal engine and would be then 64 bit software so that there is no bottle neck anymore.
The whole software would need to be exchanged completely. Who will do this as hobby? Average age of opensim users is 60 years. Of course, they have time and are retired. But skills are not there. We don't have developer anymore in opensim. What we call now developers who fix the problems are more admins and can modify things. But not develop. And at least develop new software from the scratch, which would be needed for all the things you would expect. PBR is just an adaption and we see that most are not happy with the new firestorm 7. You need for any new addition to opensim a bigger graphic card just to keep the status quo in performance, because the basic software is what it is: stone age technology. This PBR thing to have real mirrors e.g we had already in the 90s in other game that is called worlds com. But this software was based on renderware and not openGL. Secondlife never had this mirror thing and now it is sold us as new invention, which you could have already in the 90s.
So it is like it is. If you want to play a game that is working with a cheap Laptop for everyone then you have to get new 64 bit software with new engine that uses all cores of a processor for multithreading. If you want to play opensim and want to have new gadgets for this old software then you need an expensive gamer computer with a graphic card that cost alone 1000 to 2000 euro. (My MacBook Air as whole computer just cost 1000 Euro) That's the price to pay for old software technology. The youth won't pay it. We are just Secondlife nostalgic people. That's it
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The whole software would need to be exchanged completely. Who will do this as hobby? Average age of opensim users is 60 years. Of course, they have time and are retired. But skills are not there. We don't have developer anymore in opensim. What we call now developers who fix the problems are more admins and can modify things. But not develop. And at least develop new software from the scratch, which would be needed for all the things you would expect. PBR is just an adaption and we see that most are not happy with the new firestorm 7. You need for any new addition to opensim a bigger graphic card just to keep the status quo in performance, because the basic software is what it is: stone age technology. This PBR thing to have real mirrors e.g we had already in the 90s in other game that is called worlds com. But this software was based on renderware and not openGL. Secondlife never had this mirror thing and now it is sold us as new invention, which you could have already in the 90s.
So it is like it is. If you want to play a game that is working with a cheap Laptop for everyone then you have to get new 64 bit software with new engine that uses all cores of a processor for multithreading. If you want to play opensim and want to have new gadgets for this old software then you need an expensive gamer computer with a graphic card that cost alone 1000 to 2000 euro. (My MacBook Air as whole computer just cost 1000 Euro) That's the price to pay for old software technology. The youth won't pay it. We are just Secondlife nostalgic people. That's it
That's a bit what I saw but without knowing about OpenGL.
But all this must be well known by the developers, why then want to add functions on something from another time? ... The best would be to try to optimize what exists if no one wants to rewrite everything ...
I have examples of users who are changing their PC for a more powerful one to only be able to do the same thing as before ...
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But all this must be well known by the developers, why then want to add functions on something from another time? ... The best would be to try to optimize what exists if no one wants to rewrite everything ...
I have examples of users who are changing their PC for a more powerful one to only be able to do the same thing as before ...
retired people have the money for new gamer computer. I have also a resident who bought now a new gamer Laptop fore more than 5000 euro. she has always 60 fps even with the new Firestorm 7
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That isn't even that difficult. If your machine has some decent oomph, Firestorm 7 is faster than Firestorm 6. Even on my hardware.
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For SL I use the new SLviewer 7 and is good. But my experiences with Firestorm 7 in opensim for my Mac was bad.
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FS 7 is faster and more efficient because it is able to use more than one core of a cpu, which is why even older computers with 2-4 cores are able to run it. And the more cores you have the faster it is. Of course even an older graphics card will dramatically improve performance since FS 7 also makes more efficient use of those.
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yes theoretically it should be now for the first time multithreading. But for my Mac it is worse. Best is still my 6.6.8
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Well. As Mac User I don't expect much. For PS4 gaming experience on my Macbook I play Resident evil. lol But opensim (and Secondlife) are outdated and stoneage technology. There you can only hope that it will be preserved for later generation. Like you have atari games on your PC. And Assets are the most important of all. No other VR game has so much content. So it would be really sad if assets get lost. Even if it is old trash.
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Active Worlds is still going strong after 30 years, so I think something with the excellent, (by comparison) graphics and general useability as Opensim will persist.
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Osgrid could use a good asset purge to clean out years of old outdated junk that noone uses anymore. I did learn years ago not to have all my assets in one place and regularly transferred my more important things to my personal grid that I use as a backup. Other than a few old outfits that I keep for nostalgic purposes, I wouldn't cry too much to lose the crap I have accumulated on my Osgrid account since 2009.
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perhaps also a good time to refresh old stuff. Like the old flexi hair or think of old prim tattoos then make out of it new better bom tattoos. All the old stuff from old SL time can be also partly used to refresh. I did it with my old SL inventory. There is stuff from early times of 2007 even and can be brought to opensim to refresh it. My snow pony girl outfit e.g. is something like that. Now it can be used again and looks as if it is new stuff lol It is also for nostalgia reasons to preserve all the old stuff. To remember old good SL times.
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Jetzt werden die Grids attraktiver die "keine" offene Registrierung haben so das dieses nicht als "ich park hier mal meine Assets" genutzt werden :-)
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RemmyRavenhurst 5 minutes ago
Asset reset on hold now. by danbanner|Published February 10, 2025 After further examination we are going to try and restore the assets. More info to follow soon. same link thats Hicks sends
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Asset reset on hold now. by danbanner|Published February 10, 2025 After further examination we are going to try and restore the assets. More info to follow soon. same link thats Hicks sends
a other Way ... rezz cubes on your Region .. take some of your Fav Outfits in it .. let the cube on your Region and make a OAR
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as info you need your own Region create an IAR in the Regions console or you must ask ppl have a Region do it for you .. but is a long and unstable process and no guarantee .. especially because the asset in OSGrid has been broken for a long time
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hah! I still have my original inventory from 2013, just have to find the iar files.
I'm not confident about backing stuff up now, half of the time when I go to rez or wear things in osgrid I get a database error. I have a feeling that over half the stuff in my current inventory no longer exists, so I'm not sure if I'll bother backing it up again.
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I'm not confident about backing stuff up now, half of the time when I go to rez or wear things in osgrid I get a database error. I have a feeling that over half the stuff in my current inventory no longer exists, so I'm not sure if I'll bother backing it up again.
I hear ya.
Change clothes on your avatar, and there's at least a 50/50 chance that something either is missing from the asset DB entirely, or it has missing textures.
Better yet, the OSgrid admins don't want us to go where these assets come from, put them on there and go back to OSgrid, the standard way of fixing them, because that seems to mess with their efforts.
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Change clothes on your avatar, and there's at least a 50/50 chance that something either is missing from the asset DB entirely, or it has missing textures.
Better yet, the OSgrid admins don't want us to go where these assets come from, put them on there and go back to OSgrid, the standard way of fixing them, because that seems to mess with their efforts.
I think the generally cavalier way that OSGrid has towards people's assets is atrocious.They are certainly not backwards in coming forwards when holding out the begging bowl, so where exactly is the quid pro quo? Until 2014 I donated every month to OSGrid, then we had the asset server crash fiasco that took the grid offline for six months. I cancelled my donations, and since then haven't really used OSGrid that much for anything., certainly not for anything crucial as the general attitude towards asset security sucks.
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Il est temps de lancer vos régions linkées sur OSGrid pour pourvoir faire vos IAR (et meme les IAR de vos amis qui viendraient dessus en vous donnant leur login ...) https://www.osgrid.org/download.php
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oh my :-( then we stand all with ruth and roth noob avis on Lbsa in march? heavy. But one month time for back ups is ok
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Nope. If this came to pass, we'd all be white system bodies, like those "unclouding" avatars, because we wouldn't even have the textures for standard Ruth. Skin, eyes, hair and shape would have to be automatically created on the spot.
I've seen pictures of a Metropolis avatar that had last been used before their inventory purge. Not pretty.
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I've seen pictures of a Metropolis avatar that had last been used before their inventory purge. Not pretty.
Just in case of the worst there are now 5 Grimm Malls in whole opensim on 5 different Grids.
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Eh, I've got most of what I need on two avatars anyway. And the non-OSgrid ones are the ones with god mode access so I can send "myself" no-copy or no-transfer stuff that isn't available anywhere anymore.
What's problematic: a) The few no-transfer things that I've only got in OSgrid, and that aren't available in-world anymore. b) My many outfits.
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What's problematic: a) The few no-transfer things that I've only got in OSgrid, and that aren't available in-world anymore. b) My many outfits.
I can have. I just park my OSgrid Avi on Lbsa and have one outfit to look good there. But if you have OSgrid avi as main avi since years then you will cry. lot of work then and no guarantee that all you back up works. but most will have already Fred's Dreamgrid for their back ups I guess to run their own grid. I think most are prepared for this case. OSgrid was always the developer grid for whole opensim and such could have always happened. This is the risk everyone knew before.
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bonsoir
voila merci la porte de sortie
si les inventaire's avaient etes faits chez les clients
bravo
tant d'années perdues
à force de perdre mes objets je vais refuser
de perdre mon temps
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voila merci la porte de sortie
si les inventaire's avaient etes faits chez les clients
bravo
tant d'années perdues
à force de perdre mes objets je vais refuser
de perdre mon temps
parce que ce que les gens vont sauver qui est déjà corrompu va être réparé en les re important peut-être ?....
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OSGrid is not the first Grid to kill the asset ... and just by the way dude ... not the first time that the parliament in the UK wanted to decide to ban platforms like OpenSimulator and SecondLife
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What utter rubbish, the UK Parliament hasn't banned OpenSimulator or Second Life, and has no plans to do so. I doubt that many of our politicians are even aware of the existence of OpenSimulator and only barely aware of Second Life. Active Worlds is now 30 years old and is still going, so the prospects for OpenSimulator at just over half that age are good.
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I have written, they have wanted it several times, you can write as far as I can see, now learn to read.
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One day OSG will fall and so will OpenSimulator. This platform is too outdated for our time. Most people in OS are 40+ and they will leave one day... some sooner, some later. Then the walls of OpenSimulator will fall and we will have to survive without the Matrix.
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