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Lone Wolf, owner of the Wolf Territories grid, blocked me after I pointed out some technical shortcomings in his grid, deleting my comment from his post and blocking me.
This is the honest policy of some grid managers? what a nice thing, well, his response was really vague, like "my teleports are fast and you don't know what you are talking about on Opensim NGC" or stuttering something like that, but I will leave you my two comments, open your eyes, if there is no technical confrontation there is no good, growing and sharing is also part of that, he seemed like a good person. .. but he is probably afraid and not sure of what he is saying so he deletes uncomfortable comments because he is not strong in his reasons.
Here are my two comments :
I write to you with respect and would like to be honest.
I don't see anything special in this Opensim NGC, it just has preset configurations that are very easy to change, there are other Opensimulator derived projects clearly superior in quality and certainty for creators (see Kitely but that's just an example) and the goals of OS-NGC have been largely achieved by others long before and someone has done even more recently.
Also, you charge $50 (at the exchange rate) for a region, you may have an advanced control panel, but if I were to spend all that money on a grid where teleports don't work and as a creator I have no certainty that my items won't be forced even if I sell them in gloebit (I sell them once and then that's it because they are forced) I would never buy land from you.
You offer huge regions with 1.2 million unusable prims at an excessive cost passing it off as the best technologically advanced grid.
In fact if I were to buy a region and then find myself struggling in teleports, with constant problems loading the scenery around me, or it is simply slow to load the map (because it is very slow for your grid to load the map! "loading in progress..." and you have to wait a long time to visit a place if then the teleport doesn't fail!), if I decide because of these problems (and others) to leave, and I want to save the OAR to take my work with me, but where can I then place it? what grid would offer me a similar and less expensive solution? or maybe even as expensive but fuinctions well? how much of what I build will I lose?
I understand you make people stay there by you because only there they can take advantage of 1.2 million useless prims in huge regions never fully used, slow, where when you walk you feel the heaviness of the scenery (you move slow).
I registered with you intrigued and convinced I would find a technically advanced world, and then never went in again.
Don't brag too much, your grid is average, it may be big but not very functional.
With respect and honesty.
his response was something like "my teleports are among the fastest in opensim and you don't know opensim ngc" and I then said...
Always with honesty, don't feel attacked by me.
Your teleports fail every 50% of the time and the map is super slow to load targets.
Opensim NGC is easily available and its sources are visible from the repositories, and it has nothing special.
I don't think you have faster teleports than other Opensimulator grids, technically you should know how teleports work, other technically savvy users know that more than 50% of the Teleport depends on the viewer having a dedicated time to 'process the scenario before it is shown to you, typically on Firestorm this is about 3 to 5 seconds if I remember correctly, but there are other viewers that are really fast in teleporting, to this you have to add the communication speed of the grid, and yours is not, for example, faster than any domestic DreamGrid, so believe me, you may not know technically what I am talking about, but I know very well, one of the problems with your grid happen after teleporting.
Unfortunately, your large scenario generates slow loading because the viewer has to process the large amounts of terrain.
Your teleports don't always work, those in your grid know this very well (let's exclude the biased people who are with you out of sympathy or brotherhood),
also there is always that talk related to unusable regions outside your grid if I decide to leave with an OAR and this thing is a bit of a strategy to keep the user in your grid, I think all the people you have now as paying users will soon make you realize that a decent control panel does not make a difference, much better the ability to enjoy a functional grid.
Again with respect for your work and with honesty, I also tell you that I understand you, you made billions of posts where you described your best being, and no one ever responded to you, not even those with technical expertise, but in life you have to know how to deal with people.
Anyway, your grid is not bad, it is just hard to live with and very overrated.
cordial greetings.
This is the honest policy of some grid managers? what a nice thing, well, his response was really vague, like "my teleports are fast and you don't know what you are talking about on Opensim NGC" or stuttering something like that, but I will leave you my two comments, open your eyes, if there is no technical confrontation there is no good, growing and sharing is also part of that, he seemed like a good person. .. but he is probably afraid and not sure of what he is saying so he deletes uncomfortable comments because he is not strong in his reasons.
Here are my two comments :
I write to you with respect and would like to be honest.
I don't see anything special in this Opensim NGC, it just has preset configurations that are very easy to change, there are other Opensimulator derived projects clearly superior in quality and certainty for creators (see Kitely but that's just an example) and the goals of OS-NGC have been largely achieved by others long before and someone has done even more recently.
Also, you charge $50 (at the exchange rate) for a region, you may have an advanced control panel, but if I were to spend all that money on a grid where teleports don't work and as a creator I have no certainty that my items won't be forced even if I sell them in gloebit (I sell them once and then that's it because they are forced) I would never buy land from you.
You offer huge regions with 1.2 million unusable prims at an excessive cost passing it off as the best technologically advanced grid.
In fact if I were to buy a region and then find myself struggling in teleports, with constant problems loading the scenery around me, or it is simply slow to load the map (because it is very slow for your grid to load the map! "loading in progress..." and you have to wait a long time to visit a place if then the teleport doesn't fail!), if I decide because of these problems (and others) to leave, and I want to save the OAR to take my work with me, but where can I then place it? what grid would offer me a similar and less expensive solution? or maybe even as expensive but fuinctions well? how much of what I build will I lose?
I understand you make people stay there by you because only there they can take advantage of 1.2 million useless prims in huge regions never fully used, slow, where when you walk you feel the heaviness of the scenery (you move slow).
I registered with you intrigued and convinced I would find a technically advanced world, and then never went in again.
Don't brag too much, your grid is average, it may be big but not very functional.
With respect and honesty.
his response was something like "my teleports are among the fastest in opensim and you don't know opensim ngc" and I then said...
Always with honesty, don't feel attacked by me.
Your teleports fail every 50% of the time and the map is super slow to load targets.
Opensim NGC is easily available and its sources are visible from the repositories, and it has nothing special.
I don't think you have faster teleports than other Opensimulator grids, technically you should know how teleports work, other technically savvy users know that more than 50% of the Teleport depends on the viewer having a dedicated time to 'process the scenario before it is shown to you, typically on Firestorm this is about 3 to 5 seconds if I remember correctly, but there are other viewers that are really fast in teleporting, to this you have to add the communication speed of the grid, and yours is not, for example, faster than any domestic DreamGrid, so believe me, you may not know technically what I am talking about, but I know very well, one of the problems with your grid happen after teleporting.
Unfortunately, your large scenario generates slow loading because the viewer has to process the large amounts of terrain.
Your teleports don't always work, those in your grid know this very well (let's exclude the biased people who are with you out of sympathy or brotherhood),
also there is always that talk related to unusable regions outside your grid if I decide to leave with an OAR and this thing is a bit of a strategy to keep the user in your grid, I think all the people you have now as paying users will soon make you realize that a decent control panel does not make a difference, much better the ability to enjoy a functional grid.
Again with respect for your work and with honesty, I also tell you that I understand you, you made billions of posts where you described your best being, and no one ever responded to you, not even those with technical expertise, but in life you have to know how to deal with people.
Anyway, your grid is not bad, it is just hard to live with and very overrated.
cordial greetings.
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You are wrong Lone, I am not an Avitron user, I had an avatar there, like many others even just out of curiosity, and I knew it would close like many others, and I will tell you, for all the crap written by Ferraris in his blog where he even challenged Second Life, I am glad, I just feel sorry for the money of the people in Avitron, but then again they have been warned here several times.
Now let's expect the next bullshit and grid from Ferraris! loool
As I said, I have accounts in different Grids, besides OSGrid, I have avatars in open, closed, French, German, American, Italian and even in a Japanese grid. Like all of them I have scattered avatars, and like all of them I get my ideas.
Now that Avitron has announced it's closure everyone trying to grab its users, be careful who you put in your grid, people who have certain vices hardly change.
And I repeat, I am not from Avitron, also because that grid never worked and was really bad.
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Now let's expect the next bullshit and grid from Ferraris! loool
As I said, I have accounts in different Grids, besides OSGrid, I have avatars in open, closed, French, German, American, Italian and even in a Japanese grid. Like all of them I have scattered avatars, and like all of them I get my ideas.
Now that Avitron has announced it's closure everyone trying to grab its users, be careful who you put in your grid, people who have certain vices hardly change.
And I repeat, I am not from Avitron, also because that grid never worked and was really bad.
lols... I'll keep guessing - BTW our new land sales site is up, making an announcement tomorrow you can get a 4x4 region with 10k prims for around $12/$13 and upgrade your prims later if you wish https://www.wolf-grid.shop
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no need Lone, there is no need to guess anything as you see I am simply honest :) and anyway I never said that your grid or your work are not worth anything. in fact I am sure they will improve, as well as now you have a more complete price table according to my thought. I just have a lot of reservations about OpenSim-NGC, I don't think it's a real project to protect the creators, but also technically I don't like it, that's all. Don't think any more about this post, after a few days it goes into oblivion, and if you comment on it then it takes prominence again, from what I could see here that's how it works. it's past now and reading the comments there are many clarifications that you yourself have made, so that's fine.
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Araya Sunshine seems to not practice anythiong they have been preaching.
They had a posting on here whining about all this drama.
I simply responded with why bring all the drama here, instead of taking it somewhere else.
My comment got removed and i got blocked.
So to me, it seems the real truth of everything starts to shine through who is really the guilty one.
Sorry, just had to mention it.
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They had a posting on here whining about all this drama.
I simply responded with why bring all the drama here, instead of taking it somewhere else.
My comment got removed and i got blocked.
So to me, it seems the real truth of everything starts to shine through who is really the guilty one.
Sorry, just had to mention it.
feel free to say what you think, you did not make an offensive comment but you expressed a truth and your own thought in a free way.
That person you named (I have the revulsion even to write the name now) here in the comments tried to : defend the indefensible, making up absurd things, deliberately offended people who have little money, which is shameful and reading the comments it is there for all to see, tried to impose his thought by writing words in capitals which is equivalent to shouting.
does not deserve more attention, only reporting, and I add, as I said, staying on the topic of the post, it does not help Lone Wolf, in fact it disproves those who claim that the community in the wolf grid is made up of good people. In fact I think most of them are simple people, excluding a few, but she might make believe otherwise with her clearly discriminatory and silly comments, her account should be blocked by the administrators for T.O.S. violation.
so, I think you wrote something correct by expressing yourself without offending, unlike many others.
have a nice day :)
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That person you named (I have the revulsion even to write the name now) here in the comments tried to : defend the indefensible, making up absurd things, deliberately offended people who have little money, which is shameful and reading the comments it is there for all to see, tried to impose his thought by writing words in capitals which is equivalent to shouting.
does not deserve more attention, only reporting, and I add, as I said, staying on the topic of the post, it does not help Lone Wolf, in fact it disproves those who claim that the community in the wolf grid is made up of good people. In fact I think most of them are simple people, excluding a few, but she might make believe otherwise with her clearly discriminatory and silly comments, her account should be blocked by the administrators for T.O.S. violation.
so, I think you wrote something correct by expressing yourself without offending, unlike many others.
have a nice day :)
Araya Sunshine...
kitely's system is to conserve resources, which the land of wolves does not have, which is why it is very slow to load everything, so Sunshine wrote more nonsense, kitely once it has loaded a region does not make it slow because it is ill conformed and ill colelgat aalr esto of the map... this grid then was taken by me as a reference for the changes made to the code and never made known as sources but which are known, which include so much innovation that OPENSIM-NG does not have but tries to integrate unsuccessfully, Lone's is false advertising (as said by other users, inquesto post in these comments that 1.2 million prims you don't even run them and they don't work! ) and this post comes from comments in a fraudulent post, as it pointed to wolf territories as the best innovative grid thanks also to Opensim-NG which HAS NOTHING SPECIAL! just look at the code... and for what only would wolf territories be special? for a control panel? guys, I prefer funzonality to a control panel if then nothing works for me in the grid! you start having to say your words by force but without realizing that you are repetitive! and this woman, user of Lone, even attacked people's poverty, it is shameful and therefore blocked, she would be to be banned for TOS of OSW since she made clear offensive and racial distinctions, indeed I will report her maybe, so we see how it works here.
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kitely's system is to conserve resources, which the land of wolves does not have, which is why it is very slow to load everything, so Sunshine wrote more nonsense, kitely once it has loaded a region does not make it slow because it is ill conformed and ill colelgat aalr esto of the map... this grid then was taken by me as a reference for the changes made to the code and never made known as sources but which are known, which include so much innovation that OPENSIM-NG does not have but tries to integrate unsuccessfully, Lone's is false advertising (as said by other users, inquesto post in these comments that 1.2 million prims you don't even run them and they don't work! ) and this post comes from comments in a fraudulent post, as it pointed to wolf territories as the best innovative grid thanks also to Opensim-NG which HAS NOTHING SPECIAL! just look at the code... and for what only would wolf territories be special? for a control panel? guys, I prefer funzonality to a control panel if then nothing works for me in the grid! you start having to say your words by force but without realizing that you are repetitive! and this woman, user of Lone, even attacked people's poverty, it is shameful and therefore blocked, she would be to be banned for TOS of OSW since she made clear offensive and racial distinctions, indeed I will report her maybe, so we see how it works here.
Over 90 comments now and soon 200 LOL , humans have nothing better to do as discuss about such ?
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Maybe not Crazy, but you're here too now....... do you have nothing better to do either :D Maybe you're just getting ready for popcorn? :D
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I appreciate your review even if all of your facts weren't correct (as has been pointed out in the comments here). Some of your facts were spot on.
I was one that posted positive things about the Wolf Grid because I believe there is a kind man trying to do his best. I do believe that the community there is great and that the grid could be and might become amazing. And the control panel was super cool for non-techie people like myself.
With that said we had the 100 4x4 region pack there for months. The price was a steal (at the time) but the advertising is bogus. I mean it's technically true. You are allowed 1.2 million prims. But when we got to about 15k we started having issues. Lone did what he could to move our problem regions to different servers and he really was super helpful and fast in his customer support.
In the end we decided to leave because it was too frustrating and I was too inpatient to wait on fixes for the teleport issue and asset missing issue and others.
I would just say this : The grid has growing pains. Lone is trying out new things that could potentially be ground breaking once they are tweaked. If you have an explorers disposition and want to ride the ride then go for it. If you are impatient and easily frustrated (like I am) then pick another grid.
For transparency reasons I was currently Abbi Ashland here on OSW. I moved to OSGrid on our own server and wanted to pick a name that I liked better (so that is the reason for the new name here)
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I was one that posted positive things about the Wolf Grid because I believe there is a kind man trying to do his best. I do believe that the community there is great and that the grid could be and might become amazing. And the control panel was super cool for non-techie people like myself.
With that said we had the 100 4x4 region pack there for months. The price was a steal (at the time) but the advertising is bogus. I mean it's technically true. You are allowed 1.2 million prims. But when we got to about 15k we started having issues. Lone did what he could to move our problem regions to different servers and he really was super helpful and fast in his customer support.
In the end we decided to leave because it was too frustrating and I was too inpatient to wait on fixes for the teleport issue and asset missing issue and others.
I would just say this : The grid has growing pains. Lone is trying out new things that could potentially be ground breaking once they are tweaked. If you have an explorers disposition and want to ride the ride then go for it. If you are impatient and easily frustrated (like I am) then pick another grid.
For transparency reasons I was currently Abbi Ashland here on OSW. I moved to OSGrid on our own server and wanted to pick a name that I liked better (so that is the reason for the new name here)
all grid ownewr are dedicated to their own grids, and honestly it has nothing special technically, the control panel is inspired by what already dreamgrid for example can do with simsorround in home grids...
what you say is correct, however, please give me examples of where I went wrong and at what points.
The wolf grid is simply slow.
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what you say is correct, however, please give me examples of where I went wrong and at what points.
The wolf grid is simply slow.
I would give you examples but honestly I didn't see the points where you went wrong. I read the comments of people that I know and trust saying that you were wrong about some of the server comments you made. I'm not techie so really all I can comment on is my experience with the grid.
I do not believe that all grid owners are dedicated as Lone is. And because I spent a lot of time there and spoke with him a lot I can say for sure that he provides exceptional customer service. Even when the problem didn't get fixed I, at least, knew that I was listened to.
And as far as my "control panel" comment I wasn't comparing it to other grids panels. I was simply saying that I loved it and it was easy for me to use and understand. It was as detailed as I needed it without being overly technical.
You know...... it's really ok for people to say positive things when it's deserved. You do not need to come back to try and argue the positive statements that I make. They are statements about my experience there in which you have no knowledge of until I tell you. Accept that this was my experience or don't but don't try and convince me that the grid was more or less to me than I have stated.
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I do not believe that all grid owners are dedicated as Lone is. And because I spent a lot of time there and spoke with him a lot I can say for sure that he provides exceptional customer service. Even when the problem didn't get fixed I, at least, knew that I was listened to.
And as far as my "control panel" comment I wasn't comparing it to other grids panels. I was simply saying that I loved it and it was easy for me to use and understand. It was as detailed as I needed it without being overly technical.
You know...... it's really ok for people to say positive things when it's deserved. You do not need to come back to try and argue the positive statements that I make. They are statements about my experience there in which you have no knowledge of until I tell you. Accept that this was my experience or don't but don't try and convince me that the grid was more or less to me than I have stated.
I have never tried to convince you of something that is not, what you have narrated shows that the grid has technical problems, and that is what I try to communicate so why should I convince you of anything else? you have basically said what I have also said.
Believe me, anyone who opens a grid and has paying users will certainly try to help them as much as possible, there are costs, then there are those who invest more or those who invest less, but every single dollar collected helps to support their projects, so yes, there are grids even outside OSW (not listed here for various personal reasons) where the managers are always available.
If someone said I was wrong and proved with facts the evidence of my mistakes, welcome, I will know, as I have already done, to correct myself on that.
But how do you simply trust people on some issues that need to be proven? if you yourself have had problems, how do you trust those who claim the opposite? just because you know them? technical expertise and proof with facts are different from friendship :)
i am giving directions to do live video testing following simple steps... m people just talk... they don't do facts.
have a nice day and thanks for your comments.
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Believe me, anyone who opens a grid and has paying users will certainly try to help them as much as possible, there are costs, then there are those who invest more or those who invest less, but every single dollar collected helps to support their projects, so yes, there are grids even outside OSW (not listed here for various personal reasons) where the managers are always available.
If someone said I was wrong and proved with facts the evidence of my mistakes, welcome, I will know, as I have already done, to correct myself on that.
But how do you simply trust people on some issues that need to be proven? if you yourself have had problems, how do you trust those who claim the opposite? just because you know them? technical expertise and proof with facts are different from friendship :)
i am giving directions to do live video testing following simple steps... m people just talk... they don't do facts.
have a nice day and thanks for your comments.
I agree that people should not just trust words. Everyone has a different experience. This is why I appreciated your review. But this is also why I posted my thoughts. Products and services that are public will have positive and negative reviews and the company/owner will need to learn to deal with the good and bad comments. I want to hear both sides and then choose if I want to try the product out myself.
I'm sorry that your experience was bad. But that is not the case with all users and will not be the case.
You have a nice day as well.
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I'm sorry that your experience was bad. But that is not the case with all users and will not be the case.
You have a nice day as well.
The problem with openlife review is that it should have been done in private, they choose to be negative rather then talk it out with the grid owner. Everyone has different experiences based on many factors including types of computers and internet connections. You may be grateful for the review but I find it was unprofessional and the wrong place for something like this.
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And the actual "review" that people do on all of the regions listed here is public so what is the difference? And what is the use of a review if nobody knows about it? This makes no sense to me. There is no use going to Lone in private to say these things. He knows these things already. I know he does because I have told him.
You may not like or agree with this review but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be public.
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You may not like or agree with this review but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be public.
There is a different between reviews and personal grievances. His issue with lone should be dealt with in pvt
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Mistress... you wrote yet another nonsense, since this issue has been addressed many times in other comemnts, Lone did the same towards a person with the same probnlematiche coem autism but also more severe disabilities, so you can't even appeal to that anymore! and all of you do the same, this post stems from two of my comments removed by the author of the original post and it helps people understand how a grid works, but if you don't understand it, maybe, you have a percentage of the gains?
Even Lone himself finally admitted that he was wrong to overestimate his project...so, read the comments before talking nonsense please, or maybe you are also worthy Pagane's friend, pointing fingers is not constructive, but talking about known technical activities and warning users as you already did with other grids, if you can do it anyone can do it, right?
why do you want to hide only what is inconvenient or disliked to you? is that how life works according to you? and then please stop repeating the same things over and over again you are useless and repetitive, do you realize that? Sunshine, who has useless regions in Lone's grid, even offended poor people in order to defend the land of wolves... it's absurd, you understand this don't you?
read the comments before commenting....
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Even Lone himself finally admitted that he was wrong to overestimate his project...so, read the comments before talking nonsense please, or maybe you are also worthy Pagane's friend, pointing fingers is not constructive, but talking about known technical activities and warning users as you already did with other grids, if you can do it anyone can do it, right?
why do you want to hide only what is inconvenient or disliked to you? is that how life works according to you? and then please stop repeating the same things over and over again you are useless and repetitive, do you realize that? Sunshine, who has useless regions in Lone's grid, even offended poor people in order to defend the land of wolves... it's absurd, you understand this don't you?
read the comments before commenting....
you're right, and that's exactly what I wrote (I'm glad you got the point).
but you see there are standards from which you can't escape, and as I wrote only friendly or biased people (even offensive in some cases, you only have to read some of the comments) don't see the limits.
this is not the case for you, let's be clear about that.
I'm just saying that there are some standards of quality, and it doesn't matter how much money you invest, it doesn't matter at all, if you claim to be the best you have to have these standards of quality, otherwise you are average if not below and you are overrated, and you attract people without really offering what you sell... what do you call this?
you know, as I responded to a personal message a little while ago, I give you the same example, hoping people will read it :
It's like if I buy a ferrari, put 1.2 tons of stuff in it, add 4 overflowing trailers in the back, and then charge you for the ride in my ferrari $50 per meter... obvious it will barely do 100 mph instead of 200 (for example) and obvious it will consume three times as much! That's all it is.
so I respect paying $50 a meter with a ferrari that doesn't give me good experiences, I'd rather pay $15 but with a car that gives me the right experience.
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but you see there are standards from which you can't escape, and as I wrote only friendly or biased people (even offensive in some cases, you only have to read some of the comments) don't see the limits.
this is not the case for you, let's be clear about that.
I'm just saying that there are some standards of quality, and it doesn't matter how much money you invest, it doesn't matter at all, if you claim to be the best you have to have these standards of quality, otherwise you are average if not below and you are overrated, and you attract people without really offering what you sell... what do you call this?
you know, as I responded to a personal message a little while ago, I give you the same example, hoping people will read it :
It's like if I buy a ferrari, put 1.2 tons of stuff in it, add 4 overflowing trailers in the back, and then charge you for the ride in my ferrari $50 per meter... obvious it will barely do 100 mph instead of 200 (for example) and obvious it will consume three times as much! That's all it is.
so I respect paying $50 a meter with a ferrari that doesn't give me good experiences, I'd rather pay $15 but with a car that gives me the right experience.
So here is my review/opinion (and then I will hush). I think that people know that Lone is a hell of a nice man and he is trying hard. I think people are impressed that he is an out of the box thinker who is trying new things. And he has made it publicly known that he is on the autism spectrum. All of these things should be taken into consideration. But none of them should give him a pass for any service which someone is paying for. I left there because I was paying for something that wasn't giving me what I believed was advertised. Not everyone will feel this way though. I know some good, honest people there who love it still. It works for them. And they are currently happy with the prices they pay and the service they get.
I do not like Coke (the soda). I will not buy it and I will not drink it. It is not worth a penny to me. This doesn't mean that someone else won't be willing to put out money to drink 4 cans a day.
Thank you for the thoughtful debate.
We seem to be fighting for the last word so I will let you have it now :P lol
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I do not like Coke (the soda). I will not buy it and I will not drink it. It is not worth a penny to me. This doesn't mean that someone else won't be willing to put out money to drink 4 cans a day.
Thank you for the thoughtful debate.
We seem to be fighting for the last word so I will let you have it now :P lol
just one thing i had missed, there is little technically advanced... the control panel is yes advanced for inexperienced users but it is nothing really special, DreamGrid offers similar things with SimSorround where the terrain even is generated in real time, only this feature is reserved for grid managers and not for users.
in fact I remind you that the lone control panel is external to the opensim-ngc project... and so it would work on other properly configured opensim grids.
Has lone's grid advanced more than other grids? i don't think so my friend, there are other Opensimulator derived engines that are much more efficient than opensim-ngc... and this i think you know too, if you don't I invite you to visit other grids.
the structural choice he made does not make it better than other grids with proprietary servers. Please check for yourself.
selling something for gold when it is not at all is tantamount to misleading people. i understand his huge expenses, but then again, if he invests so much money you can see that he has it of his own or that someone makes him have this money... and i am not talking about tenants, besides, his structure is not a guarantee that allows him to say "i am the best of all".
at the end of the day, Wolf grid is slow and not worth the cost. that's all, but lone now, selling out a bit and thus agreeing with my initial post, has decided to introduce a low cost region, already it will be more honest as an offering.
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in fact I remind you that the lone control panel is external to the opensim-ngc project... and so it would work on other properly configured opensim grids.
Has lone's grid advanced more than other grids? i don't think so my friend, there are other Opensimulator derived engines that are much more efficient than opensim-ngc... and this i think you know too, if you don't I invite you to visit other grids.
the structural choice he made does not make it better than other grids with proprietary servers. Please check for yourself.
selling something for gold when it is not at all is tantamount to misleading people. i understand his huge expenses, but then again, if he invests so much money you can see that he has it of his own or that someone makes him have this money... and i am not talking about tenants, besides, his structure is not a guarantee that allows him to say "i am the best of all".
at the end of the day, Wolf grid is slow and not worth the cost. that's all, but lone now, selling out a bit and thus agreeing with my initial post, has decided to introduce a low cost region, already it will be more honest as an offering.
hehehe, I just responded to Lone in a comment where he says he will introduce a low-cost region. Go read it, and you will understand that I did not wage war to destroy Wolf, I just expressed my honest thought derived from a kind comment (no offense towards lone, that's why the agent who is offending me has little credibility).
it is true that in some comments I got very annoyed, why call me an idiot and support absurd costs.... well I defend myself no? you would do it too.
but basically nothing wrong with this post, nothing different than in other posts on other grids.
i don't question lone's dedication to his grid, any grid owner does the same, the problem is related to price/quality.
read the comment where lone introduces a low cost region, i find it honest and in line with the quality and prices offered by other grids.
good day.
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it is true that in some comments I got very annoyed, why call me an idiot and support absurd costs.... well I defend myself no? you would do it too.
but basically nothing wrong with this post, nothing different than in other posts on other grids.
i don't question lone's dedication to his grid, any grid owner does the same, the problem is related to price/quality.
read the comment where lone introduces a low cost region, i find it honest and in line with the quality and prices offered by other grids.
good day.
TBH I think you should properly identify yourself. You have a blank profile. If you have issues with the grid we have a great Discord group with a support channel at https://discord.gg/V9HhMsgRBV and also you can raise a ticket at https://www.wolf-grid.com and I'd be glad to take a look at your issues.
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you with the empty profile thing too? but I don't put much information in Facebook either, it's not a picture that makes a difference, I don't have a grid and I don't see what else I need to put in, do you want my home address too? A user writes and his posts or comments you can read or ignore, if offensive you can report them, and all this regardless of the photo, or his profile in general.
a person who registers here new can't write for at least a year loool but of duplicate profiles there are plenty, this is unique profile for me, Satyr will confirm (that's the name of the owner I found out yesterday through Pagane in one of his useless comments).
I wrote to you commenting on one of your posts, a technical note as I understand you have done alrtre times in other profiles (I just found out yesterday think!), in turn you accept the comments because they are not offensive and you give an explanation, honestly people are paying $50 for land that is not worth it. everything I had to say to you is written there and I felt like publishing the post when you deleted everything.
I remind you, that 50$ x10 people is 500$, so you get big bucks by selling something that is absolutely not up to par, passing it off as the best, the reasons I have already explained to you.
it is not so different from the negative and technical comments you have made in other posts where people have presented their work by engaging in it and you with erroneous comments have destroyed it for them, and this I only found out yesterday.
and then this thing that one has to have a profile picture necessarily, but what does it change? i have been registered maybe 5 days i also take my time, don't repeat the same things over and over, give importance to the post not the profile.
Your grid is overrated and 10 tenants are enough for you to make enough money already by selling something without telling truth and it is right, as you did, to warn people of what you are doing, and now I am going to respond to those who deserve it here, that I read many new comments...
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a person who registers here new can't write for at least a year loool but of duplicate profiles there are plenty, this is unique profile for me, Satyr will confirm (that's the name of the owner I found out yesterday through Pagane in one of his useless comments).
I wrote to you commenting on one of your posts, a technical note as I understand you have done alrtre times in other profiles (I just found out yesterday think!), in turn you accept the comments because they are not offensive and you give an explanation, honestly people are paying $50 for land that is not worth it. everything I had to say to you is written there and I felt like publishing the post when you deleted everything.
I remind you, that 50$ x10 people is 500$, so you get big bucks by selling something that is absolutely not up to par, passing it off as the best, the reasons I have already explained to you.
it is not so different from the negative and technical comments you have made in other posts where people have presented their work by engaging in it and you with erroneous comments have destroyed it for them, and this I only found out yesterday.
and then this thing that one has to have a profile picture necessarily, but what does it change? i have been registered maybe 5 days i also take my time, don't repeat the same things over and over, give importance to the post not the profile.
Your grid is overrated and 10 tenants are enough for you to make enough money already by selling something without telling truth and it is right, as you did, to warn people of what you are doing, and now I am going to respond to those who deserve it here, that I read many new comments...
Okay. Look the cool thing here is you have a choice. Stay away from my grid. If you don't like it that's fine, it's not for everyone but please leave those of us who are enjoying it alone. I just don't see the need for your criticism. I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else, if you don't like it stay away.
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Your criticism of others was not necessary either.
I wish you good luck revising your prices toward people ionesta for whom they weigh $50 a month, or make a grid for the rich, so they are free to spend $50 (but even more seeing your prices) and will be proud to be in the elite.
But it is right to warn people, as you have done in the past with others I understand.
GOOD LUCK.
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I wish you good luck revising your prices toward people ionesta for whom they weigh $50 a month, or make a grid for the rich, so they are free to spend $50 (but even more seeing your prices) and will be proud to be in the elite.
But it is right to warn people, as you have done in the past with others I understand.
GOOD LUCK.
Also to add I do a start region for £20 a month that is 30k prims. I can't go any lower. Inflation is through the roof here.
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that's wise! it's average in cost, and i think it's honest, when you improve your work further, because you've done a great job, but to no one's work will ever be perfect, Opensimulator is like that, it's not always perfect, then maybe that 20 will become 30 and so on. i find this a much more honest price, and average than other opensim and non opensimulator grids.
good work lone.
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good work lone.
Thanks so I'm also thinking of re-structuring pricing. So that you kind of build a custom package selecting how many prims you want and how much land. So someone could rent 5 regions with 10k primis - its all to do with server cost - which was my mistake when i started as I overestimated the amount of server required for the price.
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I have removed my user and entries from this site. I had an autistic meltdown last night and my coping strategy is to walk away. I did not ban you I simply removed myself from the situation. I'm not going to defend myself because I can't argue with you if you have trouble teleporting or doing other things in my grid. I hope you will come back and try it again some time and I'm sorry you felt the need to lambast me.
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I'm sorry you're autistic, I'm sorry I don't know that, I just gently pointed out to you, as you did to others, that there are technical limitations and I think it's fair for the cost of your regions, to point them out and share it with people, I thought I was banned, I thought wrong and for that I apologize.
But I assure you two things :
the first is that I only have this profile, I am nobody else, you can ask the site manager if you want.
the second thing is that anyway as you read from the comments I made to you yesterday, and posted today, however even if your grid is technically overrated, I have been kind to you and have repeatedly responded respecting your work.
but let's face it, it's like if I have cancer, unfortunately, and I am well liked, and just because I have cancer no one answers me the truth, and so I sell material by passing it off as professional at high cost, when maybe the same is actually worth $20. you know what I mean?
The advice I give you, is that no one is exempt from technical problems, lower the price, then yes your grid is worth the cost.
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But I assure you two things :
the first is that I only have this profile, I am nobody else, you can ask the site manager if you want.
the second thing is that anyway as you read from the comments I made to you yesterday, and posted today, however even if your grid is technically overrated, I have been kind to you and have repeatedly responded respecting your work.
but let's face it, it's like if I have cancer, unfortunately, and I am well liked, and just because I have cancer no one answers me the truth, and so I sell material by passing it off as professional at high cost, when maybe the same is actually worth $20. you know what I mean?
The advice I give you, is that no one is exempt from technical problems, lower the price, then yes your grid is worth the cost.
Lone is autistic, which is not news since he has frequently apologized for it in his videos, quite unnecessarily in my opinion, since he should be proud of who he is. While it may seem to you that this is just a discussion about disagreements, those with autism view any conflict as aggressive and threatening and their brain reacts as if they are in a life-threatening situation. This gives them 3 choices: freeze, fight, or flee. Because of your actions here, Lone decided to leave Opensimworld after having a private meltdown. While the grid has had its challenges over the last several weeks, he has diligently responded and acted on every issue I raised, including teleports. This is a large grid and it's running much better due to his exhaustive efforts. I am very happy to continue to call Wolf territories Grid my home, while you should be ashamed of your actions. This should have remained a private issue. That's how I handled it.
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you answer yourself because you deserve answer....
The fact that lone is autistic, in the videos I've seen I haven't heard the mention of it, this I regret in part.
I am sorry in part because anyway I responded politely in the comments from as you can read, still complimenting him on his grid but pointing out in the comments to his post that something is not working. I was honest and kind.
his autistic state does not give him the right anyway to make money on poor people or those who believe they have purchased an IMMENSIVE package, the best on the Opensimulator platform, this is called FRAUD or TRUFFLE.
as I told him, it only takes 10 gullible people, who pay that high dollar amount to get $500--if you can get to 20 you have cashed in $1000 selling NOTHING.
And once people are in there, then they will have a hard time getting their work out.
Because you know very well, and you know it because in the group you said it publicly inside the wolf grid, that teleports were not working. but not only teleports, the problems in the wolf territories are also others, and people have to know what they are paying, if I comment on one of his posts as he does with others, I don't see anything wrong with it.
It is invevce fair to warn the community, and maybe make it clear that you are complicit in it with the speech you made. Do you remember well how many times you complained, or should we share some of your statements from the group chat? (so not private but read by other users)
As you can read, my two comments are polite, snza offend him (unlike what you do with me now), but the price is not worth what he offers.
and those who should be ashamed are you and people like you who incite and support these attitudes by still encouraging them, so maybe to reach in defiance of other honest platforms, 30 people paying for NOTHING by making $1,500 a month for a person who is selling something non-functional for those amounts demanded, and all this, autism or no autism, is the truly shameful thing! you support something that is technically overvalued, and I repeat it is right to make it clear or express the thought, by hiding it instead you are complicit, you have done the same for other grids by warning publicly that that grid is dangerous to invest money, why should Lone be exempt from these warnings?
if it worked like SL, or like really well structured grids, then I would understand, but here you are selling for better what is nothing better!
if you lovingly do this, just because you are autistic, at least don't advertise it as the best, because you are complicit in shameful harm true people who don't fully understand the true technical value of a platform.
so lunaria, shame on you and all those who commented like you!
if the post is not in private it is as i have already explained, because mr. lone, he still commented publicly others and because in my comments there are technical notes that you know well to be true, that you deny by taken part and that everyone can observe (many have in fact confirmed), and it serves to make people understand that that 50$ is money wasted, you are not in second life there, you are in a place below average and overvalued that makes you pay gold for something that gold is not, and you are complicit in that, SHAME ON YOU!
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The fact that lone is autistic, in the videos I've seen I haven't heard the mention of it, this I regret in part.
I am sorry in part because anyway I responded politely in the comments from as you can read, still complimenting him on his grid but pointing out in the comments to his post that something is not working. I was honest and kind.
his autistic state does not give him the right anyway to make money on poor people or those who believe they have purchased an IMMENSIVE package, the best on the Opensimulator platform, this is called FRAUD or TRUFFLE.
as I told him, it only takes 10 gullible people, who pay that high dollar amount to get $500--if you can get to 20 you have cashed in $1000 selling NOTHING.
And once people are in there, then they will have a hard time getting their work out.
Because you know very well, and you know it because in the group you said it publicly inside the wolf grid, that teleports were not working. but not only teleports, the problems in the wolf territories are also others, and people have to know what they are paying, if I comment on one of his posts as he does with others, I don't see anything wrong with it.
It is invevce fair to warn the community, and maybe make it clear that you are complicit in it with the speech you made. Do you remember well how many times you complained, or should we share some of your statements from the group chat? (so not private but read by other users)
As you can read, my two comments are polite, snza offend him (unlike what you do with me now), but the price is not worth what he offers.
and those who should be ashamed are you and people like you who incite and support these attitudes by still encouraging them, so maybe to reach in defiance of other honest platforms, 30 people paying for NOTHING by making $1,500 a month for a person who is selling something non-functional for those amounts demanded, and all this, autism or no autism, is the truly shameful thing! you support something that is technically overvalued, and I repeat it is right to make it clear or express the thought, by hiding it instead you are complicit, you have done the same for other grids by warning publicly that that grid is dangerous to invest money, why should Lone be exempt from these warnings?
if it worked like SL, or like really well structured grids, then I would understand, but here you are selling for better what is nothing better!
if you lovingly do this, just because you are autistic, at least don't advertise it as the best, because you are complicit in shameful harm true people who don't fully understand the true technical value of a platform.
so lunaria, shame on you and all those who commented like you!
if the post is not in private it is as i have already explained, because mr. lone, he still commented publicly others and because in my comments there are technical notes that you know well to be true, that you deny by taken part and that everyone can observe (many have in fact confirmed), and it serves to make people understand that that 50$ is money wasted, you are not in second life there, you are in a place below average and overvalued that makes you pay gold for something that gold is not, and you are complicit in that, SHAME ON YOU!
I have empathy for persons with disabilities but did Lone have empathy when he trashed my forum saying it wasn't secure, I have Multiple Sclerosis and am Autistic too. You all should be ashamed of yourselves too! You for one Luna find free creations and then want to sell them in a free and opensource community, wanting everyone to praise you as a fabulous content creator. We all have to be ashamed of ourselves for being honest? Lone wasn't being honest when he commented here that my Forum wasn't secure. That was an attack because it was untrue. What we are saying here isn't an attack it is facts. Since you all already think of me as Mad I could give a shit.
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First, I don't think negatively of anyone, especially you, since I've always admired your work. Secondly, I don't think my work is fabulous since I have a lot of room for improvement. Lastly, 95% or more of what I make is prim-built or uses mesh components I create in blender. Being in Opensim, you and I both can do whatever we like with our own stuff. The only mesh I outsource and sometimes sell are statues, of which many are free but some I pay for. I am not a sculptor so I look for quality scan files of real world sculptures to use. The ones I use all come with a commercial license that allows me to sell them as long as I attribute the creator - I never claim to be the original creator for these. I sell these on the Kitely Market so that anyone in Opensim can buy and export them to their own grid, with Dreamgrids being some of my largest patrons. As you can see in this listing (https://www.kitely.com/market/product/70275470/Egyptian-So...), I not only provide the creator's name and license, but also provide the link where people can go get their own copy for free without buying mine. They would still of course have to run their copy through a 3d modeling program to be able to upload it into Opensim.
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I appreciate that you clarify, and that you care to correct me. In your early days it was all the free statues being sold, I had these same statues. Do I think you should be compensated for that? I understand that you do apply nicer textures when you find the statues and your time is valuable. Putting a price on your time is your call. I spend hours creating and giving it freely and that is my decision on my time. I do think you create beautifully and have commented on your textures and your work. What offends me is saying we don't care about Lone's disability was hurtful because I have promoted both you and Lone.
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Pagane, people like you are ridiculous and ridicule themselves.
A while ago you said you were hated, but it seems to me that you are the one who poses in a way that leads people to ignore you or consider you untrustworthy.
you are making absurd meaningless and very offensive comments, stay on the technical topic if you can instead of writing in a way that is offensive and unnecessary to the context of the post.
I don't think Satyr, given the comments in general, finds the content of what some non-dramatic users wrote in constructive comments in this post about technical and human sides of Opensimulator and its users unconstructive, and of quite constructive comments there are many.
yours, on the other hand, are completely useless.... ignore what are you writing for if it bothers you so much?
you are friend of big jupiter aren't you? you give trolls but you are the one who create drama in the comments... loool
i'll block you, you're useless for this conversation anyway and probably for many others from other users and discourses to come.
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A while ago you said you were hated, but it seems to me that you are the one who poses in a way that leads people to ignore you or consider you untrustworthy.
you are making absurd meaningless and very offensive comments, stay on the technical topic if you can instead of writing in a way that is offensive and unnecessary to the context of the post.
I don't think Satyr, given the comments in general, finds the content of what some non-dramatic users wrote in constructive comments in this post about technical and human sides of Opensimulator and its users unconstructive, and of quite constructive comments there are many.
yours, on the other hand, are completely useless.... ignore what are you writing for if it bothers you so much?
you are friend of big jupiter aren't you? you give trolls but you are the one who create drama in the comments... loool
i'll block you, you're useless for this conversation anyway and probably for many others from other users and discourses to come.
Perso je n'ai rien du tout contre ce monsieur mais moi aussi je lag sur ses sims et mon mari ne charge pas du tout c est dommage.
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bof .. je m'en fiche un peu je préfère dire ce que je pense et rester moi que faire de la lèche et être une autre personne. Après ce n'est pas méchant c'est juste un constat.
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The fact that there is free speech is perfect for any platform. If one has issues then by all means let us all know what to expect or not. You can't please everyone there's issues everywhere. I run 2 grids myself I also been in opensims like forever :) Personally I find DreamGrid to be a perfect solution to solve all the drama of grids owned by others who may think there better than the rest. Over pricing I do find horrible way to take advantage to us poor folks who can't afford SL prices. Servers are cheap enough out there, No need to have 1000 regions LOL unless you have the bodies to fill them. Open space of vast land in moronic at best, False advertising with claims things work perfectly is also a thing that should never be spoken. Blocking people for voicing opinions on a grids performance is profound. Anyways good luck to the parties concerned..
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and that's exactly the point, I want to remind you that I am not biased, but I have shown that both technically and knowledge-wise I know enough (how many here knew that Fred has his own dedicated page in the SL wiky and I think this page is still there? and he is a former Linden contributor? that says a lot about his enormous experience).
I am not biased, I mean, DreamGrid I prefer it albeit in its limitations, because a program in VB.NET that starts one C# cannot be the pinnacle of perfection, but it is egregious work, and Kubwa's work is also good however only German as an end user language, DreamGrid is more complete, but they are similar products and both good. (I would not use them for me personally but I appreciate them and they are good).
I understand that maintaining a grid has HUGE costs for those who use proprietary or leased servers, but if you ask me for $50 a month, making me believe that you have the best grid just for a full control panel, and if you put me 200 EMPTY VARs to do territory, and you don't hold them up with the virtual servers you have created, well, you are not offering me a good service, you are taking a lot of money away from me.
The argument is that it seemed to me, excuse me for quoting it, that I was reliving the time when Avitron was writing similar nonsense in HGBusiness... "The Best Technologically Advanced" and then $35 contabo servers, now I don't know how they are doing Avitron doesn't give a damn, but before contabo vps had and sold regions... shoddy.
So yes, if I cannot pay even one region in a good grid, I will use private regions in OSGrid or Other similar grids or DreamGrid.
That's the way I think about it.
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I am not biased, I mean, DreamGrid I prefer it albeit in its limitations, because a program in VB.NET that starts one C# cannot be the pinnacle of perfection, but it is egregious work, and Kubwa's work is also good however only German as an end user language, DreamGrid is more complete, but they are similar products and both good. (I would not use them for me personally but I appreciate them and they are good).
I understand that maintaining a grid has HUGE costs for those who use proprietary or leased servers, but if you ask me for $50 a month, making me believe that you have the best grid just for a full control panel, and if you put me 200 EMPTY VARs to do territory, and you don't hold them up with the virtual servers you have created, well, you are not offering me a good service, you are taking a lot of money away from me.
The argument is that it seemed to me, excuse me for quoting it, that I was reliving the time when Avitron was writing similar nonsense in HGBusiness... "The Best Technologically Advanced" and then $35 contabo servers, now I don't know how they are doing Avitron doesn't give a damn, but before contabo vps had and sold regions... shoddy.
So yes, if I cannot pay even one region in a good grid, I will use private regions in OSGrid or Other similar grids or DreamGrid.
That's the way I think about it.
As another grid owner, I've known Wolf for a long time. His grid is Exceptional with great people on. I've never had any issues on his grid, the teleports all work fine period if by teleports you are referring to the ones in your inventory, all grids have that issue. I've never once had any problems loading any of his regions.
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this comment of yours is not true.
I invite you to do a test in front of a lot of people.
It consists of a live broadcast on a channel shared with everyone maybe on youtube, where you clear your viewer's cache, access its grid in the welcome area and open the map, already from there you will see slow loading times and the map not even telling you where exactly you are, that "loading in progress" means a lot technically. .. it takes at least a minute if you're lucky and that's a symptom of slow network and slow protocols within a set of virtual servers (which he showed in his youtube channel) embedded in a generally single physical machine (or physical server).
As soon as you can get a few spots on the map try going to some paid regions, then of private users. 50% of the locations tied to land rented for a fee by users will give a stalled teleport at least 1 time out of 2 and this in the long run leads to total teleport blockage. not to mention the slowness of other services such as even inventory as you say.
also i invite you to do a live stream of an event, and see how it loads and how long it takes you to have a teleport with all the open regions it has and misconfigured, yet selling its technology as better.
all this you will have to experience with an account not in HG, but native on its grid.
But it is not true that it is a problem of other grids that of inventory or teleports, I have accounts in many grids, I am not naming names, but a couple of them are really fast and have many regions and many active users too.
so what you're saying doesn't have a lot of real feedback also because many users inside his grid (including those who moved a whole community) complain about this problem.
however the problems and merits made an average do not justify $50 region.
if you are really comfortable with it, rent a region from him, you would save on your power bill to maintain your grid.
sometimes i think you love grids that don't work or offer trivial and slow services where loading is really bad, do you pay for that? do you give value for your money? because if i had to choose to work well, i would choose a platform that works and is not slow pr spend such sums of money, otherwise i would settle for grids where regions cost 3$ a month knowing what i buy, slow, inefficiency but so much money saving.
Amateur or personal grids I can understand it are slow and managed in a decent way, but grids that ask you 10 times as much a premium account of SL no, $50 is too high a standard and in Wolf Grid there is no quality to ask this amount.
The only region where I've moved discreetly is Lunaria's, but it's pretty obvious that I prioritize it, it's a Content Creator that anyone would want in their grid, and I don't think she earns the $50 (assuming she pays it pr the region but that's not something I'm interested in) from the region by selling through Wolf Grid, although she will say otherwise, I have my doubts.
ultimately the Wolf's grid is slower and less secure and organized than Kitely for example, but also than other lesser known, fully functioning ones.
Be honest.
for JOpensim's advice, seek help from Lone, maybe he can help you since he is experienced :)
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he disparaged by commenting technically on other platforms, there is no value to what you say, you are blatantly biased.
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I invite you to do a test in front of a lot of people.
It consists of a live broadcast on a channel shared with everyone maybe on youtube, where you clear your viewer's cache, access its grid in the welcome area and open the map, already from there you will see slow loading times and the map not even telling you where exactly you are, that "loading in progress" means a lot technically. .. it takes at least a minute if you're lucky and that's a symptom of slow network and slow protocols within a set of virtual servers (which he showed in his youtube channel) embedded in a generally single physical machine (or physical server).
As soon as you can get a few spots on the map try going to some paid regions, then of private users. 50% of the locations tied to land rented for a fee by users will give a stalled teleport at least 1 time out of 2 and this in the long run leads to total teleport blockage. not to mention the slowness of other services such as even inventory as you say.
also i invite you to do a live stream of an event, and see how it loads and how long it takes you to have a teleport with all the open regions it has and misconfigured, yet selling its technology as better.
all this you will have to experience with an account not in HG, but native on its grid.
But it is not true that it is a problem of other grids that of inventory or teleports, I have accounts in many grids, I am not naming names, but a couple of them are really fast and have many regions and many active users too.
so what you're saying doesn't have a lot of real feedback also because many users inside his grid (including those who moved a whole community) complain about this problem.
however the problems and merits made an average do not justify $50 region.
if you are really comfortable with it, rent a region from him, you would save on your power bill to maintain your grid.
sometimes i think you love grids that don't work or offer trivial and slow services where loading is really bad, do you pay for that? do you give value for your money? because if i had to choose to work well, i would choose a platform that works and is not slow pr spend such sums of money, otherwise i would settle for grids where regions cost 3$ a month knowing what i buy, slow, inefficiency but so much money saving.
Amateur or personal grids I can understand it are slow and managed in a decent way, but grids that ask you 10 times as much a premium account of SL no, $50 is too high a standard and in Wolf Grid there is no quality to ask this amount.
The only region where I've moved discreetly is Lunaria's, but it's pretty obvious that I prioritize it, it's a Content Creator that anyone would want in their grid, and I don't think she earns the $50 (assuming she pays it pr the region but that's not something I'm interested in) from the region by selling through Wolf Grid, although she will say otherwise, I have my doubts.
ultimately the Wolf's grid is slower and less secure and organized than Kitely for example, but also than other lesser known, fully functioning ones.
Be honest.
for JOpensim's advice, seek help from Lone, maybe he can help you since he is experienced :)
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he disparaged by commenting technically on other platforms, there is no value to what you say, you are blatantly biased.
lone doesn't know JOpensim's so that wouldn't be helpful to me. everything you claim is not true considering a well known creator moved all of her stuff to his grid. all of your facts are correct including the price of his regions.
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Honestly it doesn't bother me, personally osw is not the place to air a petty issue such as this. Respectfully this should be done in provate.
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if you write a post where you say you are beautiful and smart and that your grid is the best, when in fact the facts are different and you sell these diversities at a high price, from the moment you write, you also have to expect answers and you have to be able to deal with people's answers. That's what happens here very often, only some of you gang up and attack others, I repeat, there are people who deliberately call others thieves who actually bring free content into OS, there are people who have written terrible things about OSGrid or other grids. Since Lone made a post, yet another one, where he described himself as the best, received my technical comment, he wrote, exposed himself, and as you can read from my deleted comments, there was no rudeness but just free thinking, what many of you do (Pagane for example? ) freely criticizing even loudly the posts of others. and many grid managers know that their grids here render even better than one that sells you regions for $50 a month, regions that you can never use elsewhere, so stop being prissy, that helping doesn't do that by charging as if for bad service.
you invoke freedom in OS but you don't accept other people's? is that how it works?
Then when a reflection shared on a social becomes uncomfortable for you, because you might be the next to show your huge shortcomings or weaknesses where you feel strong instead, then you call someone's reflection "drama", you live on constant drama, in 3 days I have read about grids with fake traffic, accused OSGrid, Playground and others, and this kind and thoughtful post is drama?
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if you write a post where you say you are beautiful and smart and that your grid is the best, when in fact the facts are different and you sell these diversities at a high price, from the moment you write, you also have to expect answers and you have to be able to deal with people's answers. That's what happens here very often, only some of you gang up and attack others, I repeat, there are people who deliberately call others thieves who actually bring free content into OS, there are people who have written terrible things about OSGrid or other grids. Since Lone made a post, yet another one, where he described himself as the best, received my technical comment, he wrote, exposed himself, and as you can read from my deleted comments, there was no rudeness but just free thinking, what many of you do (Pagane for example? ) freely criticizing even loudly the posts of others. and many grid managers know that their grids here render even better than one that sells you regions for $50 a month, regions that you can never use elsewhere, so stop being prissy, that helping doesn't do that by charging as if for bad service.
you invoke freedom in OS but you don't accept other people's? is that how it works?
Then when a reflection shared on a social becomes uncomfortable for you, because you might be the next to show your huge shortcomings or weaknesses where you feel strong instead, then you call someone's reflection "drama", you live on constant drama, in 3 days I have read about grids with fake traffic, accused OSGrid, Playground and others, and this kind and thoughtful post is drama?
First of all, Lone doesn't sell one region for $50 a month. He sells 16 regions for $50 a month. A 4x4 varsim. You're bending facts for your argumentation until they break.
Second, I am one of those, quote, "people who deliberately call others thieves who actually bring free content into OS". Said content is proprietary, copyrighted payware from Second Life, and the license of this content most often does NOT allow exporting it to use it outside of Second Life. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being exported. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being given away as freebies, especially not full-perm. What these people do is not liberation. It is theft. It is illegal.
And it hurts OpenSim's own creativity which, yes, actually exists. And also yes, it exists beyond Linda Kellie creations from 2008. Not all freebie creators in OpenSim are alts of Linda Kellie, regardless of what some people imply.
Third, your profile is blank. You don't have anything filled out. You have neither sims nor friends. Your only recorded interaction with the community on OpenSimWorld is this very thread. Plus, you have a rather generic account name. And you want to make us believe that this is your one and only OSW account that was not purpose-made to attack Lone Wolf and excuse everyone who stands up for him of "ganging up" and lying intentionally?
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Second, I am one of those, quote, "people who deliberately call others thieves who actually bring free content into OS". Said content is proprietary, copyrighted payware from Second Life, and the license of this content most often does NOT allow exporting it to use it outside of Second Life. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being exported. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being given away as freebies, especially not full-perm. What these people do is not liberation. It is theft. It is illegal.
And it hurts OpenSim's own creativity which, yes, actually exists. And also yes, it exists beyond Linda Kellie creations from 2008. Not all freebie creators in OpenSim are alts of Linda Kellie, regardless of what some people imply.
Third, your profile is blank. You don't have anything filled out. You have neither sims nor friends. Your only recorded interaction with the community on OpenSimWorld is this very thread. Plus, you have a rather generic account name. And you want to make us believe that this is your one and only OSW account that was not purpose-made to attack Lone Wolf and excuse everyone who stands up for him of "ganging up" and lying intentionally?
You Write : "First of all, Lone doesn't sell one region for $50 a month. He sells 16 regions for $50 a month. A 4x4 varsim. You're bending facts for your argumentation until they break."
is the same Jupiter, nothing changes, a Var is still a single region and in this case very expensive with little quality, this point does not change things.
You write : "Second, I am one of those, quote, "people who deliberately call others thieves who actually bring free content into OS". Said content is proprietary, copyrighted payware from Second Life, and the license of this content most often does NOT allow exporting it to use it outside of Second Life. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being exported. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being given away as freebies, especially not full-perm. What these people do is not liberation. It is theft. It is illegal."
The license is internal to the DRM that Linden Lab offers for content under DMCA (there are cases where creators have been sued by real outside companies), the DMCA is an American law so not ALL NATIONS fall under that, also, to claim a right on another platform you have to be the owner of the registered trademark and patent or otherwise of the model even outside the Second Life platform... and that is not always the case, also a lot of content from Opensimulator is sold in SL without permission, a lot of Opensource scripts are sold along with objects in SL without permission and respect for Open or Creative Commons licenses, Also a body model is not a trivial copy, there is work behind it to redo scripts, alpha and it can NEVER be the same as its original model in SL, so when you call someone a thief, remember, the only thing you can dispute is maybe the textures because the model even for physics issues will NEVER be the same as the one uploaded in dae with Havok on SL. .. also this point of yours I'm sorry doesn't hold up at all, copying a model from SL with a copybot that La Linden allows you to use without guaranteeing real security to its creators, is not stealing, it is taking a reference model. Remember that many models in SL come from 3D sites where you find free or otherwise freely purchasable content, in fact there are many identical outfits sold by multiple "creators" where only the Textures change... so I repeat, even this comment of yours is USELESS, Great jupiter... (quote Back to the Future, Doc.).
You Write : " Third, your profile is blank. You don't have anything filled out. You have neither sims nor friends. Your only recorded interaction with the community on OpenSimWorld is this very thread. Plus, you have a rather generic account name. And you want to make us believe that this is your one and only OSW account that was not purpose-made to attack Lone Wolf and excuse everyone who stands up for him of "ganging up" and lying intentionally?"
i don't think it's your problem, do i have to enter information to interact? i don't have a grid and that's my name, what more do you want? that i send you my home address? hahahaha ( and by the way it's not my only interaction... do you think you know everything here? i commented on a region now rightly closed because possible scam, and then i talked in chatbox until a day ago... but what do i have to justify to you? you already know everything right? hahahaha)
you don't know any better than to attack people who are not part of your "family"?
Great Jupiter, FACTS, not empty WORDS! FACTS!
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is the same Jupiter, nothing changes, a Var is still a single region and in this case very expensive with little quality, this point does not change things.
You write : "Second, I am one of those, quote, "people who deliberately call others thieves who actually bring free content into OS". Said content is proprietary, copyrighted payware from Second Life, and the license of this content most often does NOT allow exporting it to use it outside of Second Life. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being exported. There is no proof that the creator consented in their content being given away as freebies, especially not full-perm. What these people do is not liberation. It is theft. It is illegal."
The license is internal to the DRM that Linden Lab offers for content under DMCA (there are cases where creators have been sued by real outside companies), the DMCA is an American law so not ALL NATIONS fall under that, also, to claim a right on another platform you have to be the owner of the registered trademark and patent or otherwise of the model even outside the Second Life platform... and that is not always the case, also a lot of content from Opensimulator is sold in SL without permission, a lot of Opensource scripts are sold along with objects in SL without permission and respect for Open or Creative Commons licenses, Also a body model is not a trivial copy, there is work behind it to redo scripts, alpha and it can NEVER be the same as its original model in SL, so when you call someone a thief, remember, the only thing you can dispute is maybe the textures because the model even for physics issues will NEVER be the same as the one uploaded in dae with Havok on SL. .. also this point of yours I'm sorry doesn't hold up at all, copying a model from SL with a copybot that La Linden allows you to use without guaranteeing real security to its creators, is not stealing, it is taking a reference model. Remember that many models in SL come from 3D sites where you find free or otherwise freely purchasable content, in fact there are many identical outfits sold by multiple "creators" where only the Textures change... so I repeat, even this comment of yours is USELESS, Great jupiter... (quote Back to the Future, Doc.).
You Write : " Third, your profile is blank. You don't have anything filled out. You have neither sims nor friends. Your only recorded interaction with the community on OpenSimWorld is this very thread. Plus, you have a rather generic account name. And you want to make us believe that this is your one and only OSW account that was not purpose-made to attack Lone Wolf and excuse everyone who stands up for him of "ganging up" and lying intentionally?"
i don't think it's your problem, do i have to enter information to interact? i don't have a grid and that's my name, what more do you want? that i send you my home address? hahahaha ( and by the way it's not my only interaction... do you think you know everything here? i commented on a region now rightly closed because possible scam, and then i talked in chatbox until a day ago... but what do i have to justify to you? you already know everything right? hahahaha)
you don't know any better than to attack people who are not part of your "family"?
Great Jupiter, FACTS, not empty WORDS! FACTS!
"You Write : "First of all, Lone doesn't sell one region for $50 a month. He sells 16 regions for $50 a month. A 4x4 varsim. You're bending facts for your argumentation until they break."
is the same Jupiter, nothing changes, a Var is still a single region and in this case very expensive with little quality, this point does not change things."
A region is 256x256m. Always. FACT.
A sim can be that size or a multiple of it.
So you aren't lying, but if you can't tell the difference, this doesn't really make you look competent.
"the DMCA is an American law so not ALL NATIONS fall under that"
The same reason why most copybotting went through Russia and Kazakhstan. Doesn't make it any better or any more compliant with what SL creators allow people to do with their works.
"also a lot of content from Opensimulator is sold in SL without permission, a lot of Opensource scripts are sold along with objects in SL without permission and respect for Open or Creative Commons licenses"
Stooping as low as whataboutisms already to support your pro-copybotting propaganda?
"Also a body model is not a trivial copy, there is work behind it to redo scripts, alpha and it can NEVER be the same as its original model in SL, so when you call someone a thief, remember, the only thing you can dispute is maybe the textures because the model even for physics issues will NEVER be the same as the one uploaded in dae with Havok on SL"
Same reason why Athena is allegedly a 100% legal original OpenSim creation. LOL.
"also this point of yours I'm sorry doesn't hold up at all, copying a model from SL with a copybot that La Linden allows you to use without guaranteeing real security to its creators, is not stealing, it is taking a reference model"
...which you need the permission of whoever offers the model for nonetheless. If you don't have it, it's theft.
"i don't think it's your problem, do i have to enter information to interact? i don't have a grid and that's my name, what more do you want?"
You look like a sock puppet created to attack other users, and you act like a sock puppet created to attack other users.
Your likes are a dozen a dime on OSW.
If you want people to trust you, you have to gain their trust. And that is not by attacking and insulting them being just about the only thing you ever do with a fully blank account. Again, we all have seen this countless times before.
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is the same Jupiter, nothing changes, a Var is still a single region and in this case very expensive with little quality, this point does not change things."
A region is 256x256m. Always. FACT.
A sim can be that size or a multiple of it.
So you aren't lying, but if you can't tell the difference, this doesn't really make you look competent.
"the DMCA is an American law so not ALL NATIONS fall under that"
The same reason why most copybotting went through Russia and Kazakhstan. Doesn't make it any better or any more compliant with what SL creators allow people to do with their works.
"also a lot of content from Opensimulator is sold in SL without permission, a lot of Opensource scripts are sold along with objects in SL without permission and respect for Open or Creative Commons licenses"
Stooping as low as whataboutisms already to support your pro-copybotting propaganda?
"Also a body model is not a trivial copy, there is work behind it to redo scripts, alpha and it can NEVER be the same as its original model in SL, so when you call someone a thief, remember, the only thing you can dispute is maybe the textures because the model even for physics issues will NEVER be the same as the one uploaded in dae with Havok on SL"
Same reason why Athena is allegedly a 100% legal original OpenSim creation. LOL.
"also this point of yours I'm sorry doesn't hold up at all, copying a model from SL with a copybot that La Linden allows you to use without guaranteeing real security to its creators, is not stealing, it is taking a reference model"
...which you need the permission of whoever offers the model for nonetheless. If you don't have it, it's theft.
"i don't think it's your problem, do i have to enter information to interact? i don't have a grid and that's my name, what more do you want?"
You look like a sock puppet created to attack other users, and you act like a sock puppet created to attack other users.
Your likes are a dozen a dime on OSW.
If you want people to trust you, you have to gain their trust. And that is not by attacking and insulting them being just about the only thing you ever do with a fully blank account. Again, we all have seen this countless times before.
4x4 is a SINGLE region with no simcrossing by OPENSIMULATOR standards that brought down MEGAREGIONs a few versions ago, so if you compare it to a single SL region in size, it is EQUIVALENT in size to 16 SL regions or a standard region, but it is still A SINGLE REGION, SOLD AT $50 AND INEFFECTIVE FROM A TECHNICAL AND PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW!
Also, it has 1.2 million prims, if you want to change grids, you have to pray that half of your content (or maybe 1/16) won't be lost!!! you will never do anything with that region, how many really filled them? and how many use all of them??? (actually ALL of them because it is a single Region for glis tandard OS!).
Other grids offer Var, which travel fairly well, at half the price!
Can you understand that, Great Jupiter?
The rest I have already answered you so I don't even read, what I wrote above applies, otherwise you won't stop writing rubbish.
(ah already you know everything, wait then I'll send you my home address... ah no, I guess you already know!) loool
I will not answer you any further, because it is useless to do so with unobjective people like you... Great Jupiter (always quote from Back to the Future, DOC.)!
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Also, it has 1.2 million prims, if you want to change grids, you have to pray that half of your content (or maybe 1/16) won't be lost!!! you will never do anything with that region, how many really filled them? and how many use all of them??? (actually ALL of them because it is a single Region for glis tandard OS!).
Other grids offer Var, which travel fairly well, at half the price!
Can you understand that, Great Jupiter?
The rest I have already answered you so I don't even read, what I wrote above applies, otherwise you won't stop writing rubbish.
(ah already you know everything, wait then I'll send you my home address... ah no, I guess you already know!) loool
I will not answer you any further, because it is useless to do so with unobjective people like you... Great Jupiter (always quote from Back to the Future, DOC.)!
That's good because it's absolutely pointless to try and discuss technical matters with someone who is both too stupid to recognise that there's a difference between a region and a sim and too arrogant to learn something that has been established in OpenSim since its very inception.
Not to mention who doesn't even try the least bit not to look like a troll.
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Not to mention who doesn't even try the least bit not to look like a troll.
"When a person does not know what to say anymore, he is only capable of offending...."
At least you've got some self-awareness.
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At least you've got some self-awareness.
ah just to clarify, you are insulting, call me a puppet...anyway you are also a puppet here and in the virtual world don't you think? but I don't need anyone's trust, I externalize my thoughts regardless, freedom of expression, but unlike others I try to be objective and face criticism and speak knowledgeably, you check profiles, who are you the person in charge of user profiles or what they do in their grids?
ohhhhh great Jupiter! lool
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ohhhhh great Jupiter! lool
You have Policed my grid many times. Checking to see if I am up to your code, is my Ruth and Roth latest versions in my stores, checking to see who the content creators are of my content-most is created by me or I bring it in the same as the SL content creators, many upload resources from the very same places opensim people do but because it is also seen in SL you assume it is botted from the SL creator when they got it from the same free sites.
Here is the TOS from Blender Content from Blendkit---User contributions are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. Without limiting any of those representations or warranties, Blender Foundation has the right (though not the obligation) to, in Blender Foundation’s sole discretion (i) refuse or remove any content that, in Blender Foundation’s reasonable opinion, violates any Blender Foundation policy or is in any way harmful or objectionable, or (ii) terminate or deny access to and use of the Website to any individual or entity for any reason, in Blender Foundation’s sole discretion. Blender Foundation will have no obligation to provide a refund of any amounts previously paid. https://devtalk.blender.org/tos When you buy the assets from the creators each creator has their own TOS some say can use even commercially so you need to check the assets you obtain.
Turbo Squid---Detailed list of allowed uses: News, film, movies, television programs, video projects, multi-media projects, theatrical display, software user interfaces; architectural renderings, computer games, virtual worlds, simulation and training environments, corporate communications, marketing collateral, tradeshow promotional items, booth decorations and presentations, pre-visualizations, product prototyping and research, mobile, web, print, television, billboard advertising, online and electronic publications of blogs, literature, social media, email campaigns, website designs and layouts, desktop and mobile wallpapers, screensavers, toolbar skins, books, magazines, posters, greeting cards, 3d printing, apparel items, brochures, framed or printed artwork, household items, office items, lenticular prints, product packaging and manufactured products.https://blog.turbosquid.com/turbosquid-3d-model-license/
Have you seen ArtStation? https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/game-dev/assets Content is coming from sites like these Jupiter, it is perfectly legal. Maybe some are still botting but there is absolutely no reason to with these free resources.
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Here is the TOS from Blender Content from Blendkit---User contributions are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. Without limiting any of those representations or warranties, Blender Foundation has the right (though not the obligation) to, in Blender Foundation’s sole discretion (i) refuse or remove any content that, in Blender Foundation’s reasonable opinion, violates any Blender Foundation policy or is in any way harmful or objectionable, or (ii) terminate or deny access to and use of the Website to any individual or entity for any reason, in Blender Foundation’s sole discretion. Blender Foundation will have no obligation to provide a refund of any amounts previously paid. https://devtalk.blender.org/tos When you buy the assets from the creators each creator has their own TOS some say can use even commercially so you need to check the assets you obtain.
Turbo Squid---Detailed list of allowed uses: News, film, movies, television programs, video projects, multi-media projects, theatrical display, software user interfaces; architectural renderings, computer games, virtual worlds, simulation and training environments, corporate communications, marketing collateral, tradeshow promotional items, booth decorations and presentations, pre-visualizations, product prototyping and research, mobile, web, print, television, billboard advertising, online and electronic publications of blogs, literature, social media, email campaigns, website designs and layouts, desktop and mobile wallpapers, screensavers, toolbar skins, books, magazines, posters, greeting cards, 3d printing, apparel items, brochures, framed or printed artwork, household items, office items, lenticular prints, product packaging and manufactured products.https://blog.turbosquid.com/turbosquid-3d-model-license/
Have you seen ArtStation? https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/game-dev/assets Content is coming from sites like these Jupiter, it is perfectly legal. Maybe some are still botting but there is absolutely no reason to with these free resources.
Marianna, I know that you would never allow illegal content to be offered on Virtual-HG. I also know that you're one of the top creators of original mesh in OpenSim, and I like how your creations aren't rigged for any one specific body except for a few rings.
And yes, I acknowledge that there are free-by-license sources for high-quality 3-D models which are being used in OpenSim. Usually, users who do that name their sources. If they do that, it makes their works trustworthy.
A few have actually acquired content from Second Life legally, some still do, I acknowledge that, too. At least in more recent times, they add notecards to their sales boxes that name their sources and the conditions under which the content is being offered.
However, way too often, it's still too tempting to simply steal Second Life content, especially content for avatars such as mesh bodies or clothes rigged specifically for these mesh bodies. There still aren't exactly few freebie store owners whose business model is limited to this because they want to offer the highest quality possible and a large selection at the same time.
And by the way, when I come to visit your sims, it's either to see if you've got something new and interesting or because you've actually announced that you have something new and interesting. Occasionally, I show your sims to someone else who didn't know them yet.
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And yes, I acknowledge that there are free-by-license sources for high-quality 3-D models which are being used in OpenSim. Usually, users who do that name their sources. If they do that, it makes their works trustworthy.
A few have actually acquired content from Second Life legally, some still do, I acknowledge that, too. At least in more recent times, they add notecards to their sales boxes that name their sources and the conditions under which the content is being offered.
However, way too often, it's still too tempting to simply steal Second Life content, especially content for avatars such as mesh bodies or clothes rigged specifically for these mesh bodies. There still aren't exactly few freebie store owners whose business model is limited to this because they want to offer the highest quality possible and a large selection at the same time.
And by the way, when I come to visit your sims, it's either to see if you've got something new and interesting or because you've actually announced that you have something new and interesting. Occasionally, I show your sims to someone else who didn't know them yet.
I appreciate the kind words, and that you would recommend me that means a lot. I took it personally I guess because I am often questioned about my own content. Not all content in opensim is botted as long as others are aware that good content also comes from reputable sources too, is important to clarify that it isn't all botted.
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My personal experience with Lone Wolf was when I announced my public forum. Lone commented here publicly that my site was not a secure site, and he would not join because it wasn't a secure site-he made it clear so others would be informed here at OSW. It was not accurate information as my site is secure with SSL certificate. It hurt me, people were then afraid to join. He said in the post if it was secure he would join and log in. After showing it was secure he never logged in. I had promoted Wolf Territories grid and still, he did this to me.
Just like this post shows the technical side of Wolf Territories grid, it is important to know this because he is charging 50 usd per month. That is a lot of money and it is important to know the tech side. OpenLife posted on Lone's thread and the thread was deleted. OpenLife has every right to post here just like you do. Is this an attack on Lone Wolf no it is being honest.
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Just like this post shows the technical side of Wolf Territories grid, it is important to know this because he is charging 50 usd per month. That is a lot of money and it is important to know the tech side. OpenLife posted on Lone's thread and the thread was deleted. OpenLife has every right to post here just like you do. Is this an attack on Lone Wolf no it is being honest.
unfortunately, technical and truthful comments are inconvenient, and factions are created, I am retgistered recently, because I was looking for a person who deleted instead, now I understand why what were his reasons for removing everything. Anyway for sure your public forum must be interesting, and almost no site of any grid is in https, because some services are more complicated to put in than others, like secure connections, and not everyone knows how to do it, others because they don't want to spend too much there for a hobby that doesn't really bring profit. so lock or not, I would gladly come to your forum, where there is meeting and exchange of ideas and information is always a good place to increase one's knowledge.
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My forum isn't active but you are always welcome to join it: https://virtual-hg.com/JOpensim/index.php/forum Thank you
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I notice two things (but I'll venture one but I think I'm not wrong), the first is that you have a beautiful and simple as well as clear site in Joomla, with JOpensim active and well confiured and you have also included a great forum! the second is that your grid runs via DreamGrid, which is a great work by Fred, a former Linden employee if I remember correctly, an experienced programmer and has a company in technology.
the DreamGrid project works in VB.net, Fred will be able to confirm, which puts it at a little bit of a disadvantage if it has active timers in the code (timers in VB have always been problematic, too many timers create problems) but it's nothing really heavy in this case, just that I would pay more attention to maintenance and reboots of the regions and the DreamGrid software itself (which includes so much functionality! it's amazing!). Specifically, I would do more often whole backups either through those offered by the DreamGrid software or through external services, such as Cobian Backup (which has also changed its name now but Cobian 11 is fine) to copy and store the entire DreamGrid structure (one backup per day). I say this because I have noticed that many grids that have closed here suddenly perhaps were under DreamGrid if I have not misunderstood, and perhaps, because of an upgrade, because of a configuration (dreamgrid uses specific files obviously to manage its configurations), they have not recovered all their contents, so I humbly recommend the use of additional backup software such as the simple and free Cobian (it is not DreamGrid's fault if grids break down, it takes proper maintenance especially as data increases).
DreamGrid also handles secure connections perfectly, also your Forum is integrated into a Grid... very interesting, remember, but you will know this for sure, for DreamGrid written in VB manages and communicates with software written in c# (opensimulator), Fred will agree with me I think, and it is highly customized (for what are the functionalities) and it is amazing how it manages to do all this so fast, of course one advice is always to use the backup tools! because it makes them available and they are well done! great job I like it very much congratulations!
I don't know you, but your work is worthy of note and commitment, and it doesn't seem to me an insecure site especially knowing the structure of DreamGrid and how it works on the Database which if I'm not mistaken is only reachable from the inside, In fact DreamGrid puts a lot of attention on network security, as much as it is possible to keep a network secure because a lot also depends on the servers (or home pc's) and the fact that if you get an "Anonym" hacker, you're screwed anywayool
P.S. I don't use DreamGrid to make my own grid because I love to get my hands everywhere and customize as much as possible, but honestly for all the people who don't know how to set up a grid, or who just want a ready and quick control center, DreamGrid, but also Kubwa Grid Manager it seems to me is called the Kubwa project used mostly by German OS platforms, is well done but the principles are different from DreamGrid which offers something more honestly, it is an excellent solution, sure, I don't know how many regions it can support I have never tried it but I am sure that if well managed it can really do a lot also DreamGrid, moreover Fred's work is absolutely free for all, and I can imagine how much work is needed by Fred to keep an all-in-one platform active integrating every time new features and new Opensimulator versions and keep up with the development.
For Fred I imagine it is an ongoing challenge to make the software more and more stable and secure.
Great work!
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the DreamGrid project works in VB.net, Fred will be able to confirm, which puts it at a little bit of a disadvantage if it has active timers in the code (timers in VB have always been problematic, too many timers create problems) but it's nothing really heavy in this case, just that I would pay more attention to maintenance and reboots of the regions and the DreamGrid software itself (which includes so much functionality! it's amazing!). Specifically, I would do more often whole backups either through those offered by the DreamGrid software or through external services, such as Cobian Backup (which has also changed its name now but Cobian 11 is fine) to copy and store the entire DreamGrid structure (one backup per day). I say this because I have noticed that many grids that have closed here suddenly perhaps were under DreamGrid if I have not misunderstood, and perhaps, because of an upgrade, because of a configuration (dreamgrid uses specific files obviously to manage its configurations), they have not recovered all their contents, so I humbly recommend the use of additional backup software such as the simple and free Cobian (it is not DreamGrid's fault if grids break down, it takes proper maintenance especially as data increases).
DreamGrid also handles secure connections perfectly, also your Forum is integrated into a Grid... very interesting, remember, but you will know this for sure, for DreamGrid written in VB manages and communicates with software written in c# (opensimulator), Fred will agree with me I think, and it is highly customized (for what are the functionalities) and it is amazing how it manages to do all this so fast, of course one advice is always to use the backup tools! because it makes them available and they are well done! great job I like it very much congratulations!
I don't know you, but your work is worthy of note and commitment, and it doesn't seem to me an insecure site especially knowing the structure of DreamGrid and how it works on the Database which if I'm not mistaken is only reachable from the inside, In fact DreamGrid puts a lot of attention on network security, as much as it is possible to keep a network secure because a lot also depends on the servers (or home pc's) and the fact that if you get an "Anonym" hacker, you're screwed anywayool
P.S. I don't use DreamGrid to make my own grid because I love to get my hands everywhere and customize as much as possible, but honestly for all the people who don't know how to set up a grid, or who just want a ready and quick control center, DreamGrid, but also Kubwa Grid Manager it seems to me is called the Kubwa project used mostly by German OS platforms, is well done but the principles are different from DreamGrid which offers something more honestly, it is an excellent solution, sure, I don't know how many regions it can support I have never tried it but I am sure that if well managed it can really do a lot also DreamGrid, moreover Fred's work is absolutely free for all, and I can imagine how much work is needed by Fred to keep an all-in-one platform active integrating every time new features and new Opensimulator versions and keep up with the development.
For Fred I imagine it is an ongoing challenge to make the software more and more stable and secure.
Great work!
I don't know if anyone else has this issue but I've noticed with dreamgrid, joepensim Joomla that when you make a website secure it errors the splash page on viewer. Excuse my typos
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Thank you for your comment, backup is key. It is important to always back up which I do. My site is exactly as you said, Joomla but I don't have the Jopensim activated (personal preference) I backup Joomla with Akeeba. I am very happy with Dreamgrid and agree Fred's technical abilities and generosity in offering the software freely help people to realize their very own grid, he is the kindest philanthropist I have ever known.
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I am replying here OpenLife because yours said Max Level for comments. I had WordPress and loved it. My Joomla has addons such as NicePage which makes blogging totally fun. It has a library of resources-webpages-blocks-images from various sources-e-commerce tools etc. after using it for over two years I am pleased with the ease too of working on the blog it is basically drag and drop content into blocks much like Weebly. I do pay for NicePage addon but for what it does I feel it is worth it. Yes httpdocs is an excellent idea to test I will do that in the future, I have thought of going WordPress I still might. A note about the fsassets folder it should never be deleted-only backed up!
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I was wrong about JOpensim loool then know that if you are not bound to Jopensim, WordPress offers you a very nice and free Social-Like, BuddyPress, think about it and try it, you can put it in a folder in "httpdocs" maybe calling it WP_Test and then activate buddy, it is very well done it is a very well structured social. For the internal Joomla backup the plugin you use is fine, I think Fred, although I don't know it, technically can give me right, you still need a total backup, all the Outworldz folder (I think it's called I should review the DreamGrid structure) from where then the various services branch or anyway from the root folder and all the subfoldersel files included, with the shadowcopy active and the backup copy in reltime without interruption of services (FSAssets included that are many!) and this you can do through Cobian.
By the way, many non-experts, convinced to delete the Assetcache folder, delete FSAssets, and lose the assets of the world, when they log in then see everything white... that's why YOU MUST BACKUP THIS FOLDER!!! always!!!
now i would like to make others understand, that this is sharing knowledge or experience, and even i say something incorrect someone will always be able to correct me, but some network manager today learned something new, i am not talking about you, but others who will read... besides, some things I understood on my own, others I learned by reading, if I had only gone to say "my grid is better" and then ask $50 for a region, I understand the competition, but I can't be good then offering help or making videos or participating in interviews when my only purpose is to get profit by actually offering nothing since my grid doesn't work as well as I promote... it takes humility! Other grids have been criticized for this, I wonder why some are and some are not, however this is a discourse that has nothing to do with your excellent achievement. But some advice, hoping Fred can correct any technical errors, I felt like giving to all DreamGrid managers (and not only, think of the FSAssets folder).
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By the way, many non-experts, convinced to delete the Assetcache folder, delete FSAssets, and lose the assets of the world, when they log in then see everything white... that's why YOU MUST BACKUP THIS FOLDER!!! always!!!
now i would like to make others understand, that this is sharing knowledge or experience, and even i say something incorrect someone will always be able to correct me, but some network manager today learned something new, i am not talking about you, but others who will read... besides, some things I understood on my own, others I learned by reading, if I had only gone to say "my grid is better" and then ask $50 for a region, I understand the competition, but I can't be good then offering help or making videos or participating in interviews when my only purpose is to get profit by actually offering nothing since my grid doesn't work as well as I promote... it takes humility! Other grids have been criticized for this, I wonder why some are and some are not, however this is a discourse that has nothing to do with your excellent achievement. But some advice, hoping Fred can correct any technical errors, I felt like giving to all DreamGrid managers (and not only, think of the FSAssets folder).
I do not know Lone Wolf personally, and I definitely am not one of the biased people you mention; but I am shocked at the way you expressed your concerns.
Although I may or may not agree with every single thing Lone wolf does or does not do, I have RESPECT for the fact that he is trying to provide a home for many in Open Sim.
Just an idea, but maybe all of us in open sim should help build each other up…..not tear each other down.
I agree with SheaButter, this conversation should have been between you and lone wolf….. not in a public forum.
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Although I may or may not agree with every single thing Lone wolf does or does not do, I have RESPECT for the fact that he is trying to provide a home for many in Open Sim.
Just an idea, but maybe all of us in open sim should help build each other up…..not tear each other down.
I agree with SheaButter, this conversation should have been between you and lone wolf….. not in a public forum.
So should this conversation, not stay with you and Lone Wolf? Why the need to advertise this on OS?
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is a set of technical and practical considerations, commenting on a post of his that was later removed. there is nothing wrong with what is written, the malice is being inserted by you with these comments. However, I don't find it fair that other posts fall victim to absurd comments and that there are people who are making the best of things by spouting judgments about grids or jobs (there is also of deliberately calling others thieves, but whatever, I don't touch that). let's say this post is just a thought, freedom of expression, he closed the discussion, I just wanted to say my thoughts as you do on a social network that gives you such a chance. but your comments are really trivial... you all make hyperbole and then just read backwards what you write in other posts.
You have also written negative things about OSGrid, I could ask you, why don't you talk about it privately with the managers? or, why do you write in other people's chatboxes or grids instead of doing it privately, I don't see anything different in what I have done.
less hypocrisy, more honesty.
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You have also written negative things about OSGrid, I could ask you, why don't you talk about it privately with the managers? or, why do you write in other people's chatboxes or grids instead of doing it privately, I don't see anything different in what I have done.
less hypocrisy, more honesty.
Can you show me where I wrote negative things on Osgrid? I was not ganging up on you. It was just a simple question. I see now you wanted to warn people.
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whatever he did, he shut down a technical and honest and polite discussion where he could make his case, there are many average grids, each with their own qualities, and there are many here. it seems normal to me that if you expose yourself you are subject to criticism or technical notes, or do you have to say yes to everyone here?
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it's my only account, you can verify, but what does it change to you then? what is written there is reality and it was written very politely, Wolf Territories is not special technically even I respect your of grid (if you have one). confrontation I think is an important thing, if now I ban you and block just because I can't defend myself from you? move objective experiences and thoughts withe ducation, I don't think it's bad. anyway to you I will stop answering you I see you too grumpy person...
i don't think that the manager of this site hates healthy and polite confrontation, unless the manager is you, but no you are too biased, you try to run off users who say what they think politely and truthfully? or only you can say it as you like Pagane? loool
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i don't think that the manager of this site hates healthy and polite confrontation, unless the manager is you, but no you are too biased, you try to run off users who say what they think politely and truthfully? or only you can say it as you like Pagane? loool