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THEY CANNOT WIN THE WAR, NO MATTER HOW MUCH $$$ WE POUR INTO IT.
Why not?
Because Putin is afraid that if ukraine gets into nato as a full member they will put a nato base in ukraine. This is about 200 miles from moscow. An ICBM could be at moscow before they could knock it down. Putin is afraid and feels cornered, and like any rabid dog, He will bite. Because Putin is insane, he can and will use Nukes on ukraine if pressed too far. Like if he feels certain He is going to lose with his troops (and let's face it, he's not losing with his troops.) But say he was losing with his troops, He would definitely use nukes. This is why Ukraine cannot win this war. So now what? Do you think we should keep pouring money into a bottomless pit or seek peace? If we do not seek peace, more and more of ukraine will fall until Russia has control of it anyway. (Like what is happening now.) I say give him the land he wants of ukraine so that he at least has a chance in minutes to knock down the ICBMS so he is no longer afraid. If you don't do this, He will kill everyone anyway. Do you see now?
Why not?
Because Putin is afraid that if ukraine gets into nato as a full member they will put a nato base in ukraine. This is about 200 miles from moscow. An ICBM could be at moscow before they could knock it down. Putin is afraid and feels cornered, and like any rabid dog, He will bite. Because Putin is insane, he can and will use Nukes on ukraine if pressed too far. Like if he feels certain He is going to lose with his troops (and let's face it, he's not losing with his troops.) But say he was losing with his troops, He would definitely use nukes. This is why Ukraine cannot win this war. So now what? Do you think we should keep pouring money into a bottomless pit or seek peace? If we do not seek peace, more and more of ukraine will fall until Russia has control of it anyway. (Like what is happening now.) I say give him the land he wants of ukraine so that he at least has a chance in minutes to knock down the ICBMS so he is no longer afraid. If you don't do this, He will kill everyone anyway. Do you see now?
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If Putin is insane, what about Macron, Scholz, Zelinsky and other "great leaders" ? What can be said about these geniuses? I often remember Zelensky smirking and grimacing in Minsk 2019 as Putin tried to avoid what he eventually had to do (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWKYGI4Cay0). The Ukrainians were used as cannon fodder to provoke war against Russia. Now Ukraine is doomed. A million dead. Only an idiot can rejoice that Sweden and Finland joined NATO. NATO will soon cease to exist, Ukraine will cease to exist, all the weapons and money of Europe already burned in Ukraine, Europe lost its potential and was left defenseless. Putin's denazification and demilitarization almost done. The US put its foot on Europe's throat and is taking over its industry, Russia received the entire East, entered into dozens of new alliances. Business is business. Russia received an alliance with China which Putin never dreamed of. Russia received all the useful resources of Ukraine and Africa. Even the Arab Emirates, even Saudi Arabia - they all cooperate with Russia. Even Turkey, a NATO member, cooperates with Russia. All of Central Asia earns together with Russia.Brics is growing as hell.The entire world economy is shifting to the East. The US received a new market for gas and oil, selling it to Europe at many times the price. Now the US will come to an agreement with Russia and China. The 3 great powers will conduct joint business and earn huge of money. What Europe will get? Europe will get "slava Ukraine".
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We in Bulgaria get this "Slava Ukraine" in june 2022.
https://static.blitz.bg/documents/newsimages/thumbnails/52...
https://blitz.bg/regioni/ukrainski-bezhantsi-spretnakha-gn...
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https://static.blitz.bg/documents/newsimages/thumbnails/52...
https://blitz.bg/regioni/ukrainski-bezhantsi-spretnakha-gn...
I agree. Anyone that wants war is nuts. Zelensky needs to let this go. The USA's "help" only makes it 100x worse. Why? Because now instead of a war being over quickly with a few dead and russia winning, the war will be dragged out with millions dead, and RUSSIA STILL WINNING. Putin said already Russia will win, or else he will nuke the sh*t out of ukraine. The USA does not want or need a WW3. No one wins in nuclear war.
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I agree. But Putin will not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, because this is the territory of historical Russia and a nation that is considered fraternal. However, it seems to me that Putin can strike a NATO country, for example, Germany or Poland, if they suddenly want to fight Russia on the territory of Ukraine. And here's why: there will be no reverse nuclear response from France, Britain or the USA. This is because neither France, nor Britain, nor especially the USA will want a 100% nuclear response from Russia on their territory because of Poland or Germany, for example. Putin does not need either Poland or Germany, he will not occupy them. But if they become part of the conflict, then a nuclear strike from Russia is practically inevitable. It is good that Germany and Poland understand this perfectly well. This war is lost for Europe and it is time to stop it. Even a child would notice that the more weapons and money that go to Ukraine, the less Ukraine remains and the closer the nuclear escalation. This is very stupid. Russia cannot be defeated with weapons. There is no sense in it. In the same way, the US or China cannot be defeated with weapons. These are great nuclear powers that do not lose existential wars.
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After reading the results of the war faction meeting in Londinium, I froze.
This is truly a complete and final victory of vulgarity over reason!
In a desperate attempt to provide the drug-fuhrer with some opportunity to rearm and strengthen his positions, the British and French were ready to ask Putin for a month's rest. They hoped to succeed and send him more soldiers and aviation.
And what do you think happened? The super, hyper, mega, galactic colossus of military affairs and the winner of all empires REFUSED! He was going to crush miniature Russia and by summer, passing at supersonic speed near Vladivostok and Alaska... by summer he will be in his villa in Florida...
A complete and final victory of vulgarity over reason!
Glory to the Emperor!
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This is truly a complete and final victory of vulgarity over reason!
In a desperate attempt to provide the drug-fuhrer with some opportunity to rearm and strengthen his positions, the British and French were ready to ask Putin for a month's rest. They hoped to succeed and send him more soldiers and aviation.
And what do you think happened? The super, hyper, mega, galactic colossus of military affairs and the winner of all empires REFUSED! He was going to crush miniature Russia and by summer, passing at supersonic speed near Vladivostok and Alaska... by summer he will be in his villa in Florida...
A complete and final victory of vulgarity over reason!
Glory to the Emperor!
It is running wild now. In Germany now CDU and SPD (the government parties with BlackRock Chancellor Friedrich Merz) talk about TWO special fond for weaponizing of EACH 400 bio Euro. So all in all it is now 800 000 bio Euro the new government will spend for going in war against Russia.
For comparison. Germany as whole country spends 476 bio Euro per year. https://www.bundeshaushalt.de/DE/Home/home.html
Now we should get a household of about 500 Bio Euro for normal spending as usual and in addition 800 bio Euro for going in war with Russia.
Who will pay this? Any idea?
Ok Suzi will tell us now that the rich should pay more taxes. Then let us calculate how much taxes the rich would have to pay.
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I guess, they must be dispossessed for this lol Just to go in war with Russia and pay all the weapons (and of course new infrastructure, like Hitler built new Autobahnen and bridges so that the tanks could roll better in the east)
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For comparison. Germany as whole country spends 476 bio Euro per year. https://www.bundeshaushalt.de/DE/Home/home.html
Now we should get a household of about 500 Bio Euro for normal spending as usual and in addition 800 bio Euro for going in war with Russia.
Who will pay this? Any idea?
Ok Suzi will tell us now that the rich should pay more taxes. Then let us calculate how much taxes the rich would have to pay.
....
I guess, they must be dispossessed for this lol Just to go in war with Russia and pay all the weapons (and of course new infrastructure, like Hitler built new Autobahnen and bridges so that the tanks could roll better in the east)
I'm pretty sure they've been using this book from the 1990's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Now we talk in germany about a 400 bio euro fond for weapons. 2 Days ago it was 200 bio Euro. It doubled now in 2 days. Who should pay this? For other things we never had money. But now for weapons in shortest time? WW3 is near.
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In general, there is something like this. In fact, things are much more complicated and in order to understand what is happening in Ukraine and Russia, you need to know the background of the conflict and be able to read Russian and Ukrainian sources.
The beginning is NOT in 2022, it is not in 2014 or 1991!!!
Even during the former USSR (when we Bulgarians were also part of the socialist camp) Ukrainians hated Russians and when we wanted to insult a Ukrainian, we supposedly accidentally called him a Russian. The result was guaranteed - a hysterical reaction! Accordingly, the Russians, although calmer, still treated the Ukrainians with undisguised disdain and irony. I will not discuss the Russian and Ukrainian versions of Ukrainian history - both are fake, but that does not matter!
Remember this and do not believe people who wave these dates and fabricated "facts" and "maps"! You want a real map of what is happening there and why? Well, take a close look at the Ukrainian map published on an American website: https://liveuamap.com/
Let me just explain the colors:
Red is what the Russians have conquered from the territory of neighboring independent states.
Pink is.... did you guess? What Ukraine and NATO wanted to have in addition to Ukraine and as a zone for the deployment of NATO military bases.
Don't believe it: There is a measuring tool on the map. Check it out:
From Ukraine to Moscow it is almost 300 miles, but from THIS PINK zone to Moscow it is 200 miles!!!
And so in 2022 the fisherman hooked the worm Ukraine on the hook and cast the line...
Please, hater group to ask some of neighbors to read them text above before start to copy/paste propaganda...
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The beginning is NOT in 2022, it is not in 2014 or 1991!!!
Even during the former USSR (when we Bulgarians were also part of the socialist camp) Ukrainians hated Russians and when we wanted to insult a Ukrainian, we supposedly accidentally called him a Russian. The result was guaranteed - a hysterical reaction! Accordingly, the Russians, although calmer, still treated the Ukrainians with undisguised disdain and irony. I will not discuss the Russian and Ukrainian versions of Ukrainian history - both are fake, but that does not matter!
Remember this and do not believe people who wave these dates and fabricated "facts" and "maps"! You want a real map of what is happening there and why? Well, take a close look at the Ukrainian map published on an American website: https://liveuamap.com/
Let me just explain the colors:
Red is what the Russians have conquered from the territory of neighboring independent states.
Pink is.... did you guess? What Ukraine and NATO wanted to have in addition to Ukraine and as a zone for the deployment of NATO military bases.
Don't believe it: There is a measuring tool on the map. Check it out:
From Ukraine to Moscow it is almost 300 miles, but from THIS PINK zone to Moscow it is 200 miles!!!
And so in 2022 the fisherman hooked the worm Ukraine on the hook and cast the line...
Please, hater group to ask some of neighbors to read them text above before start to copy/paste propaganda...
If the Ukraine wanted to build a nato base. They would have done it a long time ago. They are fighting for their country and no other reason.
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Ukraine never had the power to make this decision. NATO has a policy of not admitting countries with active territorial conflicts, as this could immediately trigger Article 5 and escalate into a larger war.
The 1994 Budapest Memorandum should have included a path to NATO membership, but Western leaders hesitated, fearing Russian aggression. Now, as a potential solution to end the war, an agreement that guarantees Ukraine’s NATO membership could be a viable option.
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The 1994 Budapest Memorandum should have included a path to NATO membership, but Western leaders hesitated, fearing Russian aggression. Now, as a potential solution to end the war, an agreement that guarantees Ukraine’s NATO membership could be a viable option.
Regardless if they had the power. They were invaded by the Russians. Hence the reason for the Ukraine being in war.
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I assume you're referring to "the answer" in the context of using Black Sea access as part of a "Golden Bridge" leading to a just and lasting peace?
Security: Ukraine could join NATO, but the Black Sea would become a demilitarized zone (DMZ), ensuring Russia retains unfettered access for its Black Sea Fleet. However, Russia would need to relocate its remaining fleet from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk, with Sevastopol potentially becoming a Ukrainian naval base since Ukraine is a Black Sea state.
Economically: A neutral or internationally controlled free-trade arrangement could be established for vital ports like Odessa and Mariupol, fostering the economic recovery of both Ukraine and Russia.
I agree, the Montreux Convention provides a strong bargaining chip and offers a far more favorable negotiation than continuing a long and bloody war.
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Security: Ukraine could join NATO, but the Black Sea would become a demilitarized zone (DMZ), ensuring Russia retains unfettered access for its Black Sea Fleet. However, Russia would need to relocate its remaining fleet from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk, with Sevastopol potentially becoming a Ukrainian naval base since Ukraine is a Black Sea state.
Economically: A neutral or internationally controlled free-trade arrangement could be established for vital ports like Odessa and Mariupol, fostering the economic recovery of both Ukraine and Russia.
I agree, the Montreux Convention provides a strong bargaining chip and offers a far more favorable negotiation than continuing a long and bloody war.
Wow, 200 miles - that’s remarkably close, especially considering how landlocked Moscow is. Meanwhile, Russian submarines armed with nuclear ICBMs have been detected within 30 miles of the U.S. coast near Alaska and Florida, en route to Cuba. In 2012, a Russian Akula-class nuclear attack submarine reportedly operated undetected in the Gulf of America for weeks.
Are you suggesting a Sun Tzu-style retreat, offering an honourable exit to avoid humiliation? Zelenskyy has already hinted at a possible territorial concession inside Kursk Oblast. Perhaps he’d also consider granting the U.S. rights to the 53% of rare earth minerals currently located in occupied Luhansk and Donetsk.
After the Budapest Memorandum’s failure, the collapse of the Minsk Protocol, and repeated ceasefire violations, why not offer Ukraine a "golden bridge" of its own? Not just vague assurances, but legally binding international treaties that genuinely guarantee Ukraine’s sovereignty against Russian aggression.
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Are you suggesting a Sun Tzu-style retreat, offering an honourable exit to avoid humiliation? Zelenskyy has already hinted at a possible territorial concession inside Kursk Oblast. Perhaps he’d also consider granting the U.S. rights to the 53% of rare earth minerals currently located in occupied Luhansk and Donetsk.
After the Budapest Memorandum’s failure, the collapse of the Minsk Protocol, and repeated ceasefire violations, why not offer Ukraine a "golden bridge" of its own? Not just vague assurances, but legally binding international treaties that genuinely guarantee Ukraine’s sovereignty against Russian aggression.
simple. because we don't want WW3. In global thermo nuclear war, everyone loses. If you will take a look at a map, you will see the ukraine border is a little more than 200 miles from moscow, the capital of russia. The speed of an ICBM to moscow doesn't even give their systems time to respond. They use something in russia called "The Hand" also known as "The perimeter system". It's old tech (1980's). And it's failing. The system works by tracking nukes entering russia and automatically launching russian nukes back. So this is a huge huge problem. The brain for the perimeter system is housed deep inside mount yamantau in russia. Under tons of rock like the united states on "cheyenne mountain". This would need to be disabled and taken offline to prevent the old 1980's mainframes from launching in a retaliatory strike. The system response time needs a minute, b/c it's an old old computer. Nearly 40 years old now. They don't get that time if ukraine enters nato and nato has already announced they would like a nato base on the edge of ukraine next to russia. That is a big problem. Russia needs more land for more time to ensure a successful retaliation.
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The Minuteman ICBM travels at a speed of Mach 23. The closest point to Moscow in Ukraine is the Chernihiv Region 280 miles or 57.6 seconds way. The current closest point within NATO to Moscow is the Ādaži Military Base Enhanced Forward Presence (eFP) Battle Group led by Canada in Latvia which is 385 miles or 79.2 seconds away. Are you honestly saying 2.4 seconds is what they are concerned about?
If Russia does detect a launch from either of these location and retaliates from the Kazan a Yasen-M-class guided missile submarine regularly 30 miles off the Florida coast it will landfall in 6.2 seconds. It's M.A.D. now and will continue to be M.AD irrespective of this. “you have a nice ocean and don’t feel now, but you will feel it in the future” - Zelenskyy 28th Feb 2025.
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If Russia does detect a launch from either of these location and retaliates from the Kazan a Yasen-M-class guided missile submarine regularly 30 miles off the Florida coast it will landfall in 6.2 seconds. It's M.A.D. now and will continue to be M.AD irrespective of this. “you have a nice ocean and don’t feel now, but you will feel it in the future” - Zelenskyy 28th Feb 2025.