Jupiter Rowland @JupiterRowland

Germany (Real Reality™), Dorenas World (virtual reality), OSgrid (secondary virtual reality) Online

Far-travelled on the Hypergrid and convinced of Roth2 v2.


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It isn't really easy for experienced MMO gamers to get into SL either. No quests, no level-grinding, no stats whatsoever except your L$ account, no railroading, no telling you what to do at all, and the handling of the inventory and the way avatars are built confuses and alienates the hell out of them.

I've once watched a video of a Swedish gamer who tries out SL for the first time. He spends some ten minutes aimlessly derping around the same he has landed on. He absolutely had no clue what to do and how to do it. He obviously hadn't read anything about SL because why read up when you can rely on learning-by-doing tutorials? Only that SL doesn't railroad you into a tutorial because it doesn't have one in the first place. So after these ten minutes, he quit because SL sucks.

9 out of 10 new SL users only log in once and then never again.
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Interestingly, the same Hamlet used to badmouth OpenSim whenever he could years ago. Okay, he did write positively about it even earler.

And until he learned about Wolf Territories, he thought that OpenSim as a whole was coming to its end because he hadn't heard anything about it over the last few years. Makes me wonder about his sources of information.
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He interviewed me :-)
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Possibly because he wasn't seeing any updates to the Opensim code as that information is not easily found anymore.
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The problem isn't simply that OpenSim has too few people. It's rather that too few OpenSim users even care for immersion and character play/light roleplay. (Shameless self-advertisement: I've created a group for this. https://opensimworld.com/groups/1069 ) Some reject it outright, some even insult those who do care as idiots who are "doing OpenSim wrong". For many, OpenSim is nothing but a 3-D chat in a fancy environment.

You can see it everywhere.

You can see it in the avatars. Male avatars clad in heavy black leather on tropical beaches, just because they always have to look badass. Female avatars in micro-minidresses and 6-inch platform sandals with 12-inch spike heels both on sandy beaches and on Christmas sims covered in snow and ice, just because they always have to max their sexiness out. Okay, partly also because many popular freebie sims simply don't offer them anything that'd work better. Also, avatars that completely change their hairstyle or even skin tone on a daily basis.

Also, if you walk away from a party so that people won't see you teleport away, you're a weirdo. You're expected to do as everyone else does and teleport away right from the dancefloor.

You can see it on the sims. Paths that are purely decorational and completely useless because they can't be walked, but the sim owner doesn't know because they've never walked them themselves, and they don't care because they don't think anyone else would walk these paths.

Having to teleport over distances that'd be short enough for a walk of a few seconds, but the sim is decorated in such a way that it's impossible to walk. Or at least having to walk through lots of flowers that grow in your only possible way between the landing-point and an important location on the sim because the sim owner has literally never walked around their own sim even once and always flies everywhere, and visitors are expected to use a teleporter for a distance of, like, 50 metres.

Walking actually being required, but with a slope in the way that'd even be too steep for stairs in real life. And you don't have any stairs in-world, you have to crawl up that hill.

Beaches on which you can dance, play Greedy and fuck, but swimming is impossible because the sim owner doesn't even take it into consideration. Also, changing clothes in an immersive way is impossible because the sim is General-rated, but there's no place where an avatar can hide to change clothes.

Personal homes in which all added furniture is only for sex and/or BDSM, but there's not even a working bathroom unless it's pre-installed in that house.

Almost all restaurants, cafés etc. everywhere lacking scripted furniture. Sometimes any furniture. They're just fillers on a big urban-style freebie sim. Bonus points for having to walk on green grass to get from the sidewalk to the restaurant entrance.

Park benches freshly ripped from SL, but unscripted. Although several park benches with working sit scripts, even legal ones, are readily available in OpenSim. But unless it's sex furniture, who needs sit scripts anyway, right?

Islands completely surrounded by rocks with not even one measly wooden landing pier. How are people and supplies supposed to get there and back again? With a helicopter landing in the sand between palm trees?

Most OpenSim users don't even know that something like immersion exists. And they clearly don't care a bit.

Send them to one of those Cuteulala Artis amusement park sims. They won't ride the coasters and the waterslides and all that. Instead, they'll complain that they can't copy anything. This is also why the rides are often broken on these sims: Nobody ever tries them, so the sim owners don't know.

And RP sim owners are wondering why nobody comes to roleplay?
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You nailed it accurately Jupiter! Very well said!
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100% TRUE!
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Also, they can have things they can't have in SL.

An entire region without having to pay a fortune. A whole lot of regions actually whereas you're already a tycoon in SL with two regions.

Shit-tons of the latest top-notch premium luxury stuff in their inventories for absolutely free.

They don't even care for roleplaying. They're too busy hoarding freebies and building their sims that hardly anyone will come visit.
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I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who has picked up the OS Avatars boxes mostly for the layer socks.

I'd already done so on some Universal Campus, but now I've got a full set.
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Passion is the new Spartacus.
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I AM SPARTACUS!
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I AM SPARTACUS!
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I thought my stupid NJ Senator Corey Booker was. He claimed it lol
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There are lots of good stuff to be found. The second-biggest Selea Core collection in the Hypergrid. Loads of Ruth2 and Roth2 plus accessories. Áine Caoimhe's Paramour stuff, maybe except the Clubmaster 2.2, whatever the official release of it is. Ina Centaur's old Open Avatars collection; I think you used to use some of her clothes back in the day. And old Zoe's exclusive clothes, SL-based, but under agreements.

Before former Uzuri shut down, I've sent four avatars through the shops.
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The old Uzuri is still there, Jupiter. I forgot to post this to that region too. There is a small shopping street in the north-east corner with some Linda Kellie stuff and a couple of boxed buildings that I made a while back.

https://opensimworld.com/hop/91992
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In fact, for productive, daily-driver grids, I'd suggest sticking with stable releases. And even then I'd only upgrade to a new stable release if I knew for certain enough that it hasn't blown up in anyone's face.

Fortunately, OpenSim itself isn't currently in a state in which there's only a painfully outdated stable release, and some everyday features are only available in bleeding-edge alpha versions.
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In this case, the mods would have to know which account is whose sock puppet and not count each report from a sock puppet as an individual report.

Otherwise, one user with 20 sock puppets could report you out because moderation would see 20 individual reports and take them for 20 reports from 20 individual users.

Raise that number to 25, and someone will come with 30 sock puppets.

Keep that number secret, and someone with enough sock puppets will reverse-engineer it.
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I addressed this in a comment lower down, The IP address and email of the reporter could be logged and could be scrutinized to detect this.
I would rather they just kill off the box and bring back the chat room in order to remove potential trolls from the main page.
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The problem with votes is that you still need moderation to combat sock puppets plus a rule that makes them a bannable offence. Like, if you're revealed to have a sock puppet, immediate ban for your main and all your sock puppets, e-mail and MAC addresses included, IP addresses if necessary.

Otherwise, someone with an agenda could and would activate their 20 sock puppets and create another 30 on top, and bam, instant 50 votes. And everyone with an agenda has already got loads of sock puppets, as do all notorious trolls and bullies.

The majority would not be defined by how many users one side has, but by how many sock puppets they have.
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Satyr once told me that he refuses to throw users out except in very special extreme cases.

I'm almost inclined to believe that OSW might only introduce moderation if something happens here that Satyr is personally held liable for in a Greek court, and if he's forced to choose between adding moderation or Greek authorities shutting OSW down permanently.
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"Satyr once told me that he refuses to throw users out except in very special extreme cases." ...did he give you a reason for this?
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Then why have a TOS at all? I mean the third option is many of us get so fed up we just stop using the site and then there is less sharing of all the things that are good here.
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The only reason why OSW is still so active is because none of the planned or WIP replacements has taken off yet.
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Not only that. He actually goes around in-world, goes to events and attacks people verbally. And I'm pretty sure he has got loads of sock-puppet avatars on various grids.

This has gotten to the point at which he can only be dealt with anymore in real life. Fortunately, he is constantly piling up criminal offences on OSW alone. And I hope Cyber pulls through with his announcement.
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The benefit of rarely going to parties I guess. This individual needs help. And yes that should happen concurrently with pressing charges but they do need help. I mean who does THIS as a hobby?! Harasses people and wrecks the enjoyment of everyone else's hobby? But I still maintain my original point. There needs to be more moderation. How many reports does it take for complaints to be taken seriously? Really one is the correct answer. "Hey we have a problem..." Then you check it out. Folks here don't need to be harassed nonstop and threatened.

As per the OSW Terms:

You agree not to post, email, or otherwise make available Content:

* that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, pornographic, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, or harms minors in any way;
* that harasses, degrades, intimidates or is hateful toward an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability;
* that disrupts the normal flow of dialogue with an excessive number of messages (flooding attack) to the Service, or that otherwise negatively affects other users' ability to use the Service

Additionally, you agree not to:

* contact anyone who has asked not to be contacted;
* "stalk" or otherwise harrass anyone;
* post non-local or otherwise irrelevant Content, repeatedly post the same or similar Content, or otherwise impose an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure;
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And sadly the instances of this behaviour outside OSW would have to be addressed by each individual grid they occur on by their TOS.

Or legally in the real world if that can happen.
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Never Depot has lots of untextured roof parts. And other parts for buildings as well.

https://opensimworld.com/hop/88928
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We'll never be able to agree upon one mandatory standard for everything.

I mean, there are sims and, I think, even entire grids which are Adult-rated, but whose uptight owners defined the Adult rating as "G-rated, but no child avatars allowed". I wouldn't be too surprised if they tried to push this definition into becoming the one mandatory standard for all of OpenSim.
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On certain German grids, this is the absolute default to the point that regulars at these events wonder why the hell nobody is voicing elsewhere.
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Double ugh. I hate being on voice. My RL house is loud and I come to virtual worlds for peace and quiet....lol
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"you look like a child avatar or a tween"

What are your criteria for this?

Under 6 feet/183cm?
Boobs smaller than standard Athena?
Certain hairstyles?
Heels too low?
Wearing too bright colours?
Wearing bright pink without looking like Jessica Biatchi?
Covering up too much/in the wrong way?
Generally not looking sexy/badass enough?

Examples, and yes, I have to bring this back: https://opensimworld.com/post/108261
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The sim, maybe even the entire grid, still runs OpenSim 0.8.2.1, an old stable version that's superseded by four newer stable versions already. 0.8.2.1 was the very first version with BoM support, but only with very basic BoM support.

OpenSim 0.8.2.1 does not know universal layers yet, though. It must have been around 0.9.1.1 which introduced full BoM support when universal layers were introduced.

This message comes when your avatar wears a universal layer. You can tell them by the symbol, three red rectangles. Ruth2 v4 uses them for optional nail polish, and I think EvoX heads use them for something else, I don't know what, I've got zero experience with EvoX.

If you take the universal layer off, you should be able to enter the sim, regardless of body or head.
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I cannot update to version 0.9. Because no-one can be bothered to sort out the NPC system I use in 0.8. It just doesn't work in 0.9. My region rely's on the NPC system. Otherwiise I might as well shut the region down and after 10 years building and updating this region that is a waste.
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you really should update to keep things up to snuff, however if you can't due to npc system, search spax orion, he may be able to help. i know he has an npc system that may work for u
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Thanks Mistress. Like I said If I cannot use the NPC system my region is useless. I dont want to resort to static avatars that cannot do anything or animesh that all look alike that just jiggle about.
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There are many different animesh people, that all don't look a-like. You can add different animations, to do different things.
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They cannot communicate and talk to each other.
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spax orion should be able to help you
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AFAIK, there's a notecard for that inside the OSW beacon that's empty by default. I don't remember its name right now, though.
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Unfortunately, traffic and traffic ranking does play a huge role in OpenSim. Sims that don't have high traffic numbers are on the verge of being invisible. Nobody is willing to flip through pages on sim lists that far back. People want quick and easy results.

This is why ca. 90% of all freebie shopping traffic went to Darkhearts when they still published their numbers. They managed to kickstart it with a whole lot of advertising plus a whole lot of exclusive, brand-new content largely on the same quality of the newest, hottest stuff on SL. And people piled onto that sim to get that content, and more people piled onto that sim because there were so many people on that sim, and because it was constantly in the top 10.

I guess, just like the R. Lion sim, it still gets lots of traffic in the shape of people who find stuff from there on other sims, can't pick it up because it's no-transfer and then go pick it up at the source.

If you haven't got anything new and exciting to offer, but you still don't want your sim to slip out of the top 10 and into obscurity which is largely the same unless your sim is a big name, you have to fabricate traffic.

The most "convincing" way is to tell some of your friends to park their avatars on your sim and keep them logged in 24/7. Then you can claim it's all regular user traffic.

If you don't know enough people who are willing to leave a computer with a viewer running all day and all night, you have to make your own traffic by creating simple alts and parking them on your sim as bots with no other apparent purpose.

Why? Because nobody will come visit your sim otherwise.

Especially not total OpenSim newbies. They don't know OSW-the-website. But they keep seeing the OSW beacons all over the place. And they take them for nifty Hypergrid teleporters. If you click on the touchscreen of a beacon, it lists the 10 most active sims. It's largely only these 10 sims that get any exposure through the beacons because especially newbies can't be arsed to go find the scroll buttons, let alone use them. And they want to go where people are because where people are has to be a cool place, right?

The popularity ranking is for luring those who already know the website, but who don't know it well enough to know that the popularity ranking is bogus and largely fabricated. They're likely to believe that popular = cool. And they, too, can't be arsed to flip through dozens of pages with sims if the first one or two pages promise to offer the hottest shit in OpenSim.

But seriously, even those of you who know all these dirty tricks, and who can see behind them: How far do you ever go through OpenSim's sim listings? When was the last time you've visited a sim that has been listed for a year or longer, that's at #700 or lower on the popularity ranking, that you weren't invited to, and that isn't yours?

See? Traffic generates traffic. And fake traffic is way too good at generating actual traffic.
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Okay, hier sind mehr deutschsprachige wöchentliche Events:

Dienstag, 20.00 Uhr bis ca. 22.00 Uhr: Rubeus' musikalische Rumpelkiste
DJ: Rubeus Helgerud
Keine festgelegten Genres, manchmal festgelegtes Thema
Verschiedene Locations, Gridtalk, Dorenas World
https://opensimworld.com/hop/78056
hop://dorenas-world.de:8002/Gridtalk/237/175/22 (Frühjahr, Herbst)
hop://dorenas-world.de:8002/Gridtalk/41/153/22 (Sommer)
hop://dorenas-world.de:8002/Gridtalk/60/62/31 oder hop://dorenas-world.de:8002/Gridtalk/36/14/22 (Winter)
(evtl. auf der Karte gucken; eine von drei Locations je nach Jahreszeit; das Event ist nicht am Hauptlandeplatz und zumindest im Winter in einem Gebäude mit zwei Stockwerken)

Erster Mittwoch im Monat, 20.00 Uhr bis 23.00 Uhr: Doppelparty im Bluewave Club
DJs: Dereos, Akira Sonoda
Nicht zwingend festgelegte Genres, manchmal festgelegtes Thema
Pyramid, OSgrid
https://opensimworld.com/hop/80180
hop://hg.osgrid.org:80/Pyramid/171/151/16

Zweiter bis vorletzter Mittwoch im Monat, 20.00 Uhr bis 23.00 Uhr: Doppelparty
DJs: Dereos, Akira Sonoda
Nicht zwingend festgelegte Genres, manchmal festgelegtes Thema
Bluewave, Dereos
https://opensimworld.com/hop/80333
hop://dereos.org:80/Bluewave/115/90/23

Letzter Mittwoch im Monat, 20.00 Uhr bis 23.00 Uhr: Clubparty in wechselnder Location
DJ: Malon Wyngard
Selten festgelegtes Genre, manchmal festgelegte Ära, durchweg älteres Zeug
Manhattan Loft Party Location (momentan meistens) oder Beatclub oder Moka Efti, Dereos (wird dienstags von Rubeus und am vorherigen Mittwoch von Akira angekündigt)
hop://dereos.org:80/ManhattanLoft/150/204/1326
hop://dereos.org:80/Beatclub
hop://dereos.org:80/Malons sunny Island/234/48/1664

Donnerstag, 20.00 Uhr (mit Vorprogramm noch früher) bis 22.00 Uhr: Budenzauber
DJ: Bogus Curry
Häufig grob festgelegtes Genre und dann gern blueslastig
Keule, Gridtalk, Dorenas World
https://opensimworld.com/hop/78056
hop://dorenas-world.de:8002/Gridtalk/214/198/22 (evtl. auf der Karte gucken; das Event ist nicht am Hauptlandeplatz und in einem Gebäude ohne Fenster)

Freitag, 19.00 Uhr bis Mitternacht: Rock-House
DJ: Anachron Young
Selten festgelegtes Genre, meistens festgelegtes Thema (+ traditionelles "Take Five" gegen 20.00 Uhr)
Rock-House, Nihilon, Dorenas World
https://opensimworld.com/hop/78058
hop://dorenas-world.de:8002/Nihilon/247/152/23 (dann im einzigen Gebäude in der Gegend; zur Not auf der Karte gucken)
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