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Ukraine? Well regardless of how you feel about whether or not russia or ukraine is in the right, here is why it is wrong for America.
1.) Making russia mad at the usa, ends oil trade, oil goes up, everything going to any store also goes up in price, as the cost of gas to get it their has gone up. Example: gas, groceries going through the roof, restaurant costs (big mac meal for $17.00 now)
2.) Biden and his cabinet are VERY short sighted with what is best for america AND the ukraine. By the usa sending taxpayer (poor people) money to the ukraine, it means everyones income tax refund is going to be $300 less this year, thus affeccting mostly the poor people of the USA. Also, if the usa had not got into this ukraine/russia war, then it would have already been over, with far less deaths of ukraine soldiers and russian soldiers. Thanks to the usa for dragging out the war forever - now there will be many many more times dead on each side.
3.) Russia was a super power and they have left over super power weapons. So whether or not the usa got involved in this money pit, the outcome is always going to be the same. Russia will win. It was a stupid investment of american money b/c the end result is always the same. Ukraine loses.
**** With that said, I feel bad that ukraine was attacked by communists, but it's not my fault, none of my business, and none of my money should go to pay for it. It is a very bad investment of the american peoples hard earned money. We have people in the usa, who spend 7 days a week, 12 hours a day standing on hard concrete floors running a machine doing production work, who are so tired they can barely stand up, but they keep going back doing the same thing every day for THEIR kids. They work so hard to take care of their families, not see our government give our tax refunds away to a useless money pit we can't win anyway.
1.) Making russia mad at the usa, ends oil trade, oil goes up, everything going to any store also goes up in price, as the cost of gas to get it their has gone up. Example: gas, groceries going through the roof, restaurant costs (big mac meal for $17.00 now)
2.) Biden and his cabinet are VERY short sighted with what is best for america AND the ukraine. By the usa sending taxpayer (poor people) money to the ukraine, it means everyones income tax refund is going to be $300 less this year, thus affeccting mostly the poor people of the USA. Also, if the usa had not got into this ukraine/russia war, then it would have already been over, with far less deaths of ukraine soldiers and russian soldiers. Thanks to the usa for dragging out the war forever - now there will be many many more times dead on each side.
3.) Russia was a super power and they have left over super power weapons. So whether or not the usa got involved in this money pit, the outcome is always going to be the same. Russia will win. It was a stupid investment of american money b/c the end result is always the same. Ukraine loses.
**** With that said, I feel bad that ukraine was attacked by communists, but it's not my fault, none of my business, and none of my money should go to pay for it. It is a very bad investment of the american peoples hard earned money. We have people in the usa, who spend 7 days a week, 12 hours a day standing on hard concrete floors running a machine doing production work, who are so tired they can barely stand up, but they keep going back doing the same thing every day for THEIR kids. They work so hard to take care of their families, not see our government give our tax refunds away to a useless money pit we can't win anyway.
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"Everyones income tax refund is going to be $300 less this year..". If you get a tax refund it means you overpaid your taxes. You should adjust your withholding to pay no less than 90% of what is due, and pocket it. Stop giving the government a free loan! You may pay more in Taxes, because Trump's tax cut is expiring. Blame him.
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Even better not to hate at all, it's a useless waste of time and energy and just promotes more hate. Like a virus it seeks to replicate any way it can. Don't even hate yourself for hating. Choose acting for peace in place of hate and don't just reflect hateful words. Less fun for the broken people. Save a kindness for them, some other hate broke them long ago. Love to all.
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I'm repeating it now that this is not the place for politics in opensimworld for goodness sake. This place is about opensim and places full stop!!!!
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Hot take there mister myopic.
Your first point is simply untrue. Gas prices in the US are roughly the same as they were before the latest iteration of this long-running war of expansion started. Big mac $17? Where TF do you even live dude? Your understanding of economic matters seems highly sus.
Take a look at the data, which suggests unambiguously that this policy has been economically beneficial to the United States. It is a huge economic boost for the defense industry, for example, who are poised to get the lion’s share of purchase orders from countries that were formerly buying Russian military equipment. Incredibly, Russia got no weapon sales at this year’s big Defense pow-wow in UAE due to demonstrably inferior quality as shown in battle. Look at the energy sector for another good example. USA is now the world’s leading exporter of energy, including old carbon technologies, but also pushing forward with green tech.
Point 2 is equally uninformed. USA actually doesn’t send much of that money to Ukraine. That money is almost entirely spent to defense contractors in the United States. These provide lucrative jobs that ensure the military-industrial base is sustained to the extent that new defense capabilities can be developed on an ongoing basis.
Your economic prowess is also on full display with your insulting, intellectually dishonest, and factually incorrect claim that funding assistance to Ukraine will reduce Americans tax refunds by $300. You know what they say about extraordinary claims.
Speculating about troop losses if different choices were made is your prerogative, but don’t pretend like it’s fact.
Finally the third point about the inevitability of Russia winning I can only say I’m glad you’re not in charge of anyone’s defense. The bully is always gonna win in the schoolyard right? Ukraine will fight on with or without your misinformation, and will prevail because they have no choice. Sláva Ukrayíni!
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Your first point is simply untrue. Gas prices in the US are roughly the same as they were before the latest iteration of this long-running war of expansion started. Big mac $17? Where TF do you even live dude? Your understanding of economic matters seems highly sus.
Take a look at the data, which suggests unambiguously that this policy has been economically beneficial to the United States. It is a huge economic boost for the defense industry, for example, who are poised to get the lion’s share of purchase orders from countries that were formerly buying Russian military equipment. Incredibly, Russia got no weapon sales at this year’s big Defense pow-wow in UAE due to demonstrably inferior quality as shown in battle. Look at the energy sector for another good example. USA is now the world’s leading exporter of energy, including old carbon technologies, but also pushing forward with green tech.
Point 2 is equally uninformed. USA actually doesn’t send much of that money to Ukraine. That money is almost entirely spent to defense contractors in the United States. These provide lucrative jobs that ensure the military-industrial base is sustained to the extent that new defense capabilities can be developed on an ongoing basis.
Your economic prowess is also on full display with your insulting, intellectually dishonest, and factually incorrect claim that funding assistance to Ukraine will reduce Americans tax refunds by $300. You know what they say about extraordinary claims.
Speculating about troop losses if different choices were made is your prerogative, but don’t pretend like it’s fact.
Finally the third point about the inevitability of Russia winning I can only say I’m glad you’re not in charge of anyone’s defense. The bully is always gonna win in the schoolyard right? Ukraine will fight on with or without your misinformation, and will prevail because they have no choice. Sláva Ukrayíni!
Thank you for trying to bring some much-needed logic to what seems to be a very uninformed and narrow minded discussion, though I think it will be wasted energy and I tend to agree with Panthera that this is really the wrong place for such topics. We are all better served if this page is kept focused on information related to OSGrid.
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Wow! McDonald's $18 Big Mac Meal goes viral on yahoo finance!!! https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mcdonalds-18-big-mac-meal-1...
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Here is what I'd say to Cyber if I could. If you agree, I'd love to have you post this, before you get blocked.
1m1. Russia is engaging in a war of agression, which, in itself, is a war crime under international law. 2. Our appeasement of Russia will only encourage it to go for more. Our allies in Europe know this, and in defending Ukraine, they defend themselves. 3. Your tax refund is determined not by some war, but by how much in taxes you have overpaid the government throughout the year. If you owe more in taxes this year, it is because of the end of some special and temporary tax deductions. 4. However, the 90% of tax filers claim the standard deduction. This year, the you can deduct more from your taxes. This means you will owe less taxes that you would have before. Depending on how mouch you have overpaid the government, your refund should be bigger. 5. The state with the most expensive Big Mac is Massachusetts, where the burger costs $7.09. The states with the cheapest Big Mac are North Carolina and Wyoming, where it costs only $4.19.
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1m1. Russia is engaging in a war of agression, which, in itself, is a war crime under international law. 2. Our appeasement of Russia will only encourage it to go for more. Our allies in Europe know this, and in defending Ukraine, they defend themselves. 3. Your tax refund is determined not by some war, but by how much in taxes you have overpaid the government throughout the year. If you owe more in taxes this year, it is because of the end of some special and temporary tax deductions. 4. However, the 90% of tax filers claim the standard deduction. This year, the you can deduct more from your taxes. This means you will owe less taxes that you would have before. Depending on how mouch you have overpaid the government, your refund should be bigger. 5. The state with the most expensive Big Mac is Massachusetts, where the burger costs $7.09. The states with the cheapest Big Mac are North Carolina and Wyoming, where it costs only $4.19.
Political comments are not allowed here!
Even more from people who have no idea what they are talking about. To understand the situation in Ukraine, imagine that for ten years someone rich and powerful lies that Mexico is attacking the border regions of the USA and trying to take back Texas.... After ten years and 50-60 thousand dead, the USA decides to attack Mexico and to restore the status quo.
What are Mexico's chances of winning? No matter how much money, weapons... whatever you want... Well, that's it. Neither Trump, nor Biden, nor Putin matter, and Zelensky is just a failed actor in a bad comedy....
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Even more from people who have no idea what they are talking about. To understand the situation in Ukraine, imagine that for ten years someone rich and powerful lies that Mexico is attacking the border regions of the USA and trying to take back Texas.... After ten years and 50-60 thousand dead, the USA decides to attack Mexico and to restore the status quo.
What are Mexico's chances of winning? No matter how much money, weapons... whatever you want... Well, that's it. Neither Trump, nor Biden, nor Putin matter, and Zelensky is just a failed actor in a bad comedy....
Zelenskiy is hardly a 'failed actor in a bad comedy'. If you'd seen the TV series 'Servant of the People' you'd know what a talented actor he really is, and as for failed? I don't call becoming president of a country as the result of a political parody failure. We are always talking politics, as that's all we can do when we are talking about people. There's no avoiding it. Trump, Putin, Biden and Zelenskiy DO matter, and the world would be a far better place if it didn't have to deal with the likes of Trump and Putin. I have no particular liking for Biden, and Zelenskiy has his downsides, but at least neither of them endangers democracy or threatens to impose a fascist authoritarianism.
Give your head a wobble!
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Give your head a wobble!
What utter bollocks! For a start off, Ukraine was not 'attacked by communists' (do you even know what a communist is?). Putin and his supporters are not communists. If American workers are spending 7 days a week and 12 hours a day slaving away machine minding, then it's probably high time they joined a militant union and fought for better working conditions, hours and pay and whilst they're about it, for universal healthcare like the civilized world.
You must be living under a stone, because if you weren't you'd know that the US economy has prospered hugely under his interventionist economic policies, and whilst you have inflation, it's coming down and is nowhere near as high as it is in, say, the UK.
It's very much in the interest of the USA that Ukraine wins this war. The US military budget is $1.7 TRILLION every year, yet only a very small fraction of that has been spent on aid to Ukraine, (less than 2%) and most of it goes to US contractors, who make the munitions and equipment, so it boosts the US economy. Also, many retired US military general supports the idea of US military aid for Ukraine, Gen. Petraeus, and Gen Mark Hodges have both presented strong arguments for US support for Ukraine.
If Ukraine loses the USA will face an even bigger problem, as it will then probably have to face up to an expansionist China, as well as an emboldened North Korea and a Russia that thinks it can just march in anywhere - including maybe Alaska.
If you're that worried about poor tax payers, maybe you should start to campaign to get the very rich taxed far more? What about taxing the likes of Bezos, Musk and Zukerberg as well as their sprawling corporations, along with Apple and Alphabet?
Get real, the cost of the Ukraine war is minimal in real terms, and certainly winnable, and would have most likely already been won had the west given Ukraine everything it needed to win the war once it became clear that they were going to stand and fight. As it is, Ukraine has fought Russia to a standstill on the front line, and also sunk more than a third of Russia's Black Sea fleet, despite not having a navy. Most of the Black Sea is no a no-go zone for the Russian Navy, Ukraine has been so effective.
Give your head a wobble and stop spouting Trumpish idiocy!
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You must be living under a stone, because if you weren't you'd know that the US economy has prospered hugely under his interventionist economic policies, and whilst you have inflation, it's coming down and is nowhere near as high as it is in, say, the UK.
It's very much in the interest of the USA that Ukraine wins this war. The US military budget is $1.7 TRILLION every year, yet only a very small fraction of that has been spent on aid to Ukraine, (less than 2%) and most of it goes to US contractors, who make the munitions and equipment, so it boosts the US economy. Also, many retired US military general supports the idea of US military aid for Ukraine, Gen. Petraeus, and Gen Mark Hodges have both presented strong arguments for US support for Ukraine.
If Ukraine loses the USA will face an even bigger problem, as it will then probably have to face up to an expansionist China, as well as an emboldened North Korea and a Russia that thinks it can just march in anywhere - including maybe Alaska.
If you're that worried about poor tax payers, maybe you should start to campaign to get the very rich taxed far more? What about taxing the likes of Bezos, Musk and Zukerberg as well as their sprawling corporations, along with Apple and Alphabet?
Get real, the cost of the Ukraine war is minimal in real terms, and certainly winnable, and would have most likely already been won had the west given Ukraine everything it needed to win the war once it became clear that they were going to stand and fight. As it is, Ukraine has fought Russia to a standstill on the front line, and also sunk more than a third of Russia's Black Sea fleet, despite not having a navy. Most of the Black Sea is no a no-go zone for the Russian Navy, Ukraine has been so effective.
Give your head a wobble and stop spouting Trumpish idiocy!
I'm not even sure what you're responding to there Fred. Equal could be said about the Trump MAGA nutcases, as they do exactly the same. Putin quite clearly isn't a communist, even if he once was, he is now far more of a right-wing authoritarian who has quite a lot of support from the Russian extreme right, as well as from gobshites like Trump.
From your comment, I would also guess that, at least from what you've written, that you don't have much of a clue what communism is either. Wikipedia has an article that serves as a useful introduction.
*To be clear, lest some suspect that I am, or that I advocate communism, I do not, and certainly not in the way that is was implemented in the Soviet Union, or its satellites. But neither do I endorse the fascism that is slowly, but seemingly inexorably creeping up on us on both sides of the Atlantic.
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From your comment, I would also guess that, at least from what you've written, that you don't have much of a clue what communism is either. Wikipedia has an article that serves as a useful introduction.
*To be clear, lest some suspect that I am, or that I advocate communism, I do not, and certainly not in the way that is was implemented in the Soviet Union, or its satellites. But neither do I endorse the fascism that is slowly, but seemingly inexorably creeping up on us on both sides of the Atlantic.
Well lets just hope that if three big guys come and beat the crap out of you, there is someone who is willing to step in to stop them without worrying about the price of a big mac going up.
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