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This Grid has followed suit with other grids in banning Darkheartsos grid from accessing Trianon-World. Im sure the reasoning behind it will be clear to some of you who run adult grids, it's over run with children and adults who abuse them. Over the past few months, I have banned some adults based on profile pictures and wording. I'm not saying everyone from there was bad, but I don't want them on my grid. If you are from there and wish to dispute your access being denied, write to me here in private and plead your case
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If that makes you feel better, and you feel like smaller avis (not children, but avis) from the grid are safer if they don't go to Trianon - that's your choice and one to be respected! All I have to say is I have several avis there of all sizes and forms, and have never feel abused, quite the opposite, very safe!
Again, your call. You've done your thing - now let the rest enjoy their OS experience :)
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Again, your call. You've done your thing - now let the rest enjoy their OS experience :)
when I ban a person it's not based on their height, it's based on their skin shape clothes profile, and even AOs and if Im still questioning I will ask a friend online what they think..
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You can ban whoever you please. But do not state that those adult who have a small avis are abused in DH, because I have one fo them and I have never been abused, harassed or even bothered.
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Gotta chime in here for this reason: Has there been evidence actually presented of inappropriate behavior in this manner or are we still going off the entire "They were dancing with children by them" argument put out there? I ask because you are the only grid up here announcing a blocking of them. So, can someone produce evidence of the accused grid that actually amounts to something other than what has already been presented, cause if not... then I gotta say this is seeming more like a smear campaign than actually trying to root out the pedos.
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The evidence is my banned list from there. Before I ban a person I look at profiles, pictures, and then I look at the avatar.. cause generally I have the time while they rez. Then I see then and they are a child and no other warning will be given, other than my greeter message and they are banned.. or I read there profile and they sound like a lover of little boys and girls.. and the owner doesnt care as I had contacted then months ago after having to ban a few of there children avatars in a short time. I announced that I banned the grid so I dont get them commenting with "I cant get there what did I do" crap. and I had been talking about it with others and I decided that when the BIG grid does it so do we. Now I dont have to ban 20 people a week.
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I am glad to see someone that can else can actually see what's going on here, of course it's a smear campaign against DHPG as Essensual is part of the OSW Cronnies club. I know this because back shortly after DHPG opened she message our OSW Avi and was question our polices on Kid Avi's again like much like now, with absolutely no evidence. See for yourself in this screen shot > https://i.imgur.com/ZPBWZgV.png she banned them for nothing more than being child avis, which her grid is adult so I can understand, but that does not mean that DHPG needs to conform to some standard model created by others, where all child avis are banned for simply existing! With that being said it's also very unreasonable to expect that DHPG should be policing other grid's Avi profiles for unacceptable content as stated in LOpensLim's statement below, and in prior post by Kristina, there were pictures shown of child Avi's profiles with questionable content in them, the thing is in both pictures she showed they was OSGrid avatars, so that begs the question are we supposed to police OSGrid too? I mean why is no one getting on them for Avatar profiles with questionable content, should they not police their own people? Thats just my opinion...and as far as being banned from Trianon World, that's fine...her call...but don't lie about why, which is the fact that with DHPG out of the way, many people stand to gain in the precious traffic rankings!
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yes months ago I talked to the owner who didn't care that their children avatars where breaking TOS on other grids.. so I guess after many months of dealing with your residents I decided this grid had to go
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Oh, by talk to, you mean this conversation screen shot that I posted in my original response...but I'll post it again to be sure you see it so HERE IT IS > https://imgur.com/ZPBWZgV Now, that its posted again...not once did you say anyone was breaking TOS, what you rather clearly said in that conversation is that No child avatars are allowed on your grid period, then you went ahead and asked what our policy is, to which I said we allow them. Now if you want to ban them from your grid that's fine, BUT PLEASE DO NOT PAINT THE PICTURE, THAT YOU'RE BANNING THEM FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN SIMPLY BEING CHILDREN AVI'S...PERIOD and with that being said...let's talk about TOS....OUR TOS states that BY CREATING AN ACCOUNT AND PROVIDING A VALID EMAIL YOU ARE CERTIFYING THAT YOU ARE OVER 18 YEARS OF AGE! So, again everyone with a DHPG Account is an adult in RL age. If we were to discover one that wasn't we would remove their account. Now before I am done "talking" to you, I will say one more thing, and then I am so done with this conversation...which is this, FOR ALL THE ACCUSATIONS YOU HAVE MADE, YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ONE SHRED OF PROOF, SO THEREFORE THIS IS ALL AGAIN.....SLANDER! If you really had such a horrible issue, with any one avi, all you had to do was send a screen shot with their name and the nature of the issue, to either my inbox, or the GovernessDarkhearts account, which I have already PROVED that you know how to contact. Now I will say have a good day, and best of luck in your endeavors, and if this is the type of person you are, we are very PLEASED NOT TO BE ALLOWED THERE!
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The other day a grid member of DH was at my store naked. Small avi. She had the CHEEK of submitting a suggestion to my shops mailbox of "I would like the animations so I can mast***ate anywhere".
Reported it to one of the Sr. Admins.
The person in question was gone and banned from the grid before I could blink.
Will there be weird people breaking rules? Yes. Adults playing small avis on adult RP privately, and little avis filrting with adults and viceversa? Of course, in DH, in OSG.
So you made a decisions and stick to it? Fantastic you are your grid owners.
But don't make it sound as if the management of the grid isn't acting on reports.
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Reported it to one of the Sr. Admins.
The person in question was gone and banned from the grid before I could blink.
Will there be weird people breaking rules? Yes. Adults playing small avis on adult RP privately, and little avis filrting with adults and viceversa? Of course, in DH, in OSG.
So you made a decisions and stick to it? Fantastic you are your grid owners.
But don't make it sound as if the management of the grid isn't acting on reports.
A visitor's profile, and most especially a resident's profile, is one of the first things that needs to be policed by the staff at a place that allows child avatars. Profile pictures and profile wording, explicit or even suggestive of virtual child abuse, are good grounds for banning an AV. And if it is an issue with multiple avatars, that indicates that the grid is not doing enough to protect against virtual child abuse. A grid ban is the right response.
In the past, some AVs with inappropriate profiles were found on this grid. The grid responded that these were just visitors. Even so, as difficult as it can be, visitor profiles need to be scrutinized. If there are not enough staff to do the job, residents should want to protect their grid by reporting people with inappropriate profiles.
[LATE EDIT] Comments are locked. Editing comments are not. I'm doing so, as more current comments by the OP make it clear they ban all child AVs, no matter if they are well-behaved or not. In fact, it sounds like they are banned even before they can do anything but rez. That's the grid owner's choice, of course. But the implication is that the ban is due to misbehavior. It's clear that it doesn't have to be.
Checking the profile, listed groups, and pictures can reveal that an AV is into virtual age-play. I don't see that the OP has provided any evidence of any AV, child or adult, with this kind of profile. That's unfortunate. When no evidence provided, it's fair to say that the claims are unfounded.
I've made a copy of this comment, and, if it's deleted, I'll post it where it can't be. If it is deleted, what does that imply about the motive and methods of the OP?
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In the past, some AVs with inappropriate profiles were found on this grid. The grid responded that these were just visitors. Even so, as difficult as it can be, visitor profiles need to be scrutinized. If there are not enough staff to do the job, residents should want to protect their grid by reporting people with inappropriate profiles.
[LATE EDIT] Comments are locked. Editing comments are not. I'm doing so, as more current comments by the OP make it clear they ban all child AVs, no matter if they are well-behaved or not. In fact, it sounds like they are banned even before they can do anything but rez. That's the grid owner's choice, of course. But the implication is that the ban is due to misbehavior. It's clear that it doesn't have to be.
Checking the profile, listed groups, and pictures can reveal that an AV is into virtual age-play. I don't see that the OP has provided any evidence of any AV, child or adult, with this kind of profile. That's unfortunate. When no evidence provided, it's fair to say that the claims are unfounded.
I've made a copy of this comment, and, if it's deleted, I'll post it where it can't be. If it is deleted, what does that imply about the motive and methods of the OP?