Marianna @Marianna

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Copyrighted Jewelry designer creator, a grid owner-tech, magazine editor in chief, and admin at Outworldz. https://www.outworldz.com/ You may email Fred@outworldz.com with requests. You may fill out reports at https://www.outworldz.com/bugreport/my_view_page.php Help Manual---->https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/Grid/Dreamgr...


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Another excellent video! You have put lots of work into your grid Dorena, I love the tours you give. You could visit other grids too and do videos of your visits.
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Thank you for your friendly criticism, yes I could, I already have. Egypt wasn't in my grid. Otherwise, I'm still far from finished with Dorena's World. :-)
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I love to hear that! It means we will be seeing more cool videos. Thank you I am enjoying them.
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Yes, but I doubt I will be able to keep up the current rhythm. :-)
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Good videos are worth the wait, we look forward to them coming out.
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I created a Sculpture for you, please let me know when we can meet, thank you for all the work you have put into this project Star.
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What was their reason? You would think they would first give warning as if you broke their TOS you did not follow, wow to just delete it without warning. I am sorry Hella.
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I absolutely did not break the rules, I am cautious about this, I wanted to follow you and put your photos in favorites and it was not possible, I tried on others and the same, the activity of my account is blocked. The problem is that if he closes this account I lose all my groups. Finally making a gallery on opensim, who does that bother?
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When you posted today, I went there to update my account and add a few images. One I took last year for my Mind Odyssey exhibit, about loss of family. That is how I felt when they took your gallery down :( I see you there on my profile as following. Maybe you have some kind of glitch. I see your faves and my images there. I see both of your accounts following me.
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All my latest follows have been deleted and my followed images too, they were there and are no longer there, and I am blocked and I can no longer make any new ones, I will see tomorrow, and I saw your images that I like a lot I followed them with Nadej. We will see if this account is blocked too, opened since 2010 without ever any problem..
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I am thinking they had some sort of server glitch, I will IM you and show you what I see with a pic posting to you now
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I just got a message from Flickr, my Hella account has been suspended, and the images removed from the groups..
This is not a glitch, one account deleted and another suspended in the same day. All that for that..
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If this is how they treat people I will delete my account, you put so much work into this and like Star said she had 20 years of images there, I don't want to be there now.
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Congratulations on your grand opening! 🎊🎊
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thank you! I didn't think it was goin to happend. I hope i added it right on the events page
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Yes I watched your posts as you built and knew it was a huge undertaking, but if we do just one step each day it all comes together nicely as yours has, I can see by the images all the love you put into it. This will be a nice place for people to come surf and chill!
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90% of the credit goes to Lilly and Darci they did the work, I just occasionally got bored and did a few things lol. However the credit for the zip lines goes ot Catuelala. I did make one but without her help i wouldn't have learned.
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You all did an amazing job. It looks fabulous!!
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Thank you Dalgato, It was a privilege to work for and with you and Lilly :)
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you were very creative and a lot of fun, you work is awesome!
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You must visit! You will love the house. At Virunga you can dance with the Bantu tribe too!! The elephants, are so realistic it all is, Deb and Fred are phenomenal creators.
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Elephants are one of my favorite creatures. I get tears in my eyes when I am lucky enough to encounter them. I once was able to ride one for $5 at Scarborough Fair a few years ago and I cried and I thanked her for letting me ride her. I felt sad for doing it though. Once I was on her, it seemed wrong somehow. They explained that the rides helped to feed her and take care of her and she was rescued from a bad situation. But then I thought, is this any better when she is forced to give people rides all day, especially screaming to children? She is the perfect example of how some animals have to work for their upkeep, unlike my spoiled cats.
Anyway... I want to come visit soon. I am sure I will love it. You are an amazing creator too!
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Thank you Star πŸ’—I have seen a video where a baby elephant was stuck in a hole with water, almost the same size as the baby, the mother was frantic on the side trying with her trunk to free the baby, then locals were able to free that baby, it was the most touching video, but it made me cry thinking please do not lose that baby phant 🐘🐘🐘
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The windows are very pretty :)
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I believe I have those particular window walls in the building supplies department of the mall. I like to build them first in prim then pull them into blender and make them mesh, then upload them back in world. They can be re textured and resized.
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I love paned windows, I had some that I could pop the panes out to clean the window. Very nicely done!
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Thank you so very much! Your kind words are encouraging.
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This is spectacular! Your videos are very well done Dorena. Keep them coming!
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Hella, I am very sorry to hear this. That seems harsh you would think they would investigate prior to taking a page down. I have a website if you need help we can host you there and I can give you edit rights to do your work.
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Thank you Marianna, I wait 2 or 3 days and I know that they will give me back my account because there is nothing to reproach, it's just that they close it if there is a complaint, the time to check, I had this 4 times already on another flickr account. A relentlessness that I never tire of! But if the pressure is too great I could consider coming why not! Very kind of you, we keep the option :)
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I love this!!! Now this is a great video Dorena!!! I especially love that music too, thank you πŸ’—I love when you inspire me!
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Thank you :-)
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πŸ’—πŸŒΈπŸ’—
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Yayyyy!!! It is so nice to see you back!
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good to be around also β™₯
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Yes, Hella's "feathering" creates a beautiful soft, gradual effect that accentuates Safine's beautiful avatar. πŸ’—
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yes, a good base helps a lot :-)
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This is an excellent contribution to Opensim, I applaud you! We have so many beautiful people in Opensim, these images are just stunning, nice work πŸ’—
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thank you Marianna, such compliments from a talented person as you are makes me happy ! :)
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Oh Hella, thank you. but your work is mesmerizing, you capture the spirit of a person. I created a Black/White gallery once, what made it different with my work is I would select just a small portion of the image like a flower and invert it, and fill a tint of color to just that one flower, leaving the rest of the scene black and white. That one pop of color is amazing and gave it such a unique perspective to the piece. I will post one and show you in IM. Thank you again.
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That chicken is at my place too, it sure gets around for being squished πŸ£πŸ” Nice work on the chicken @Ferdzee
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This is the last I will say on this my comments were maxed out with Suzi. I posted here for now 3 days because this has hurt me. You ask how can it hurt anyone? I have to tell you that seeing a member of our community under constant attack every day for the last two months causes mental anguish. You say just block her, just do not read her. I had hoped it would not come to that but I see now that you are deleting comments so the narrative will be your own, our comments really don't matter to you. Since you are determined to continue then I will no longer be reading you, I don't like the spirit of these posts or the deleting of comments. Suzi admitted in her comment that it is to flush out the Trump supporters at Opensim? At least Suzi is honest.
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I think Dorena has already stated her criteria for deleting comments, and those are where she comes in for unwarranted personal attacks. If you feel hurt, then I suggest growing a bit more of a thick skin. While you're about it, take a look at GlennXpletive's profile here on OSW if you think you've had a hard time under attack.

I have deleted comments to my posts in the past, and I dare say I will do so again. Sometimes the comments are irrelevant, which is common here given that so many seem to glean their information from far-right/alt-right/conspiracy theory sites as well as sometimes going off on a rant completely unrelated to the post.

I've written this previously, and it needs re-iterating, no one's freedom of speech is being breached through having their comment deleted from a post here. Anyone can post their opinion elsewhere if they so choose, or even set up their own website to peddle their own take on things.
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I'm starting to fear that this is being hacked badly, some are missing again and yours from the Cleopatra post has also disappeared:-(
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When you said this "Do you love having to repeat what you say over and over again?" And another comment here said for me to go somewhere else, and another told me that my comments are not based in reality, yes I went to the Cleo post and took my comment down there. You might have gained a few followers posting political posts - but I now realize my comments on your posts don't matter. Nobody hacked you, Opensimworld is not hacked. I do repeat myself over and over sometimes I have Multiple Sclerosis, I do that when things matter to me trying to get my point across. The comments that were deleted on this and the other thread were a reply to you, I am unable to remove your own posts or others. I did not delete those. You already explained how that can happen.
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Sorry, but what you're telling me is confusing, I don't understand it.
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Of course, it's a logical side effect that Trump supporters will come out in response to my posts. But to accuse me for the umpteenth time of deleting posts like crazy, THAT'S NOT TRUE. If a user deletes their comment on my post, everyone who reacted to that comment automatically disappears. I have no influence over that!!!
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It flushes them out, then what? I am an independant voter, I am commenting for the love of our opensim community, not Trump or Putin. Somebody is deleting comments and it sure in the hell isn't me.
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I tried to explain how it works with comments, anyone can delete their own in my post, do you understand now? And if there were more comments under them, they automatically disappear too. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS???
But no, it must have been the nasty Dorena, I'm starting to get sick of these kinds of insinuations more than all the hater comments..
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Yes shouting always helps, :) I will no longer be commenting.
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Do you love having to repeat what you say over and over again?
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It's not that the issues of the world are unimportant, but rather that Opensim is often not the appropriate venue for such discussions. Many users come here specifically to escape the constant barrage of real-world concerns, seeking instead a space where they can relax and engage with others in a different, more positive way.
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Please accept my heartfelt condolences πŸ’—
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I will go in and see about fixing the female avatar, thank you for letting me know.
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I hope it is not again my fault
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Again, I don't recall anything being your fault before but if you felt that I apologize. This was simply me not setting the box for sale. Thank you for letting me know.
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no no not with you, but I am a magnet for issues ;-)
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I break things all the time or usually it is I fail to see the obvious at times.
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as like me , in rl ... ;-)
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Thank you Milly when we started this project it was before mesh and the grid I was at did not have Kitely deliveries at that time so we had to create from scratch or bring some from SL with permission, I have notes of numerous creator permissions, that is how it was done then. It took lots of collaboration and sharing to make it happen. That is why now with all the resources at our fingertips our worlds can be totally phenomenal.
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These individuals are not here to contribute positively or to help build and grow our virtual world. Instead, they are sowing discord, creating divisions, and holding our community hostage to discussions that have no place in this space. Opensim was created as a haven for creativity, collaboration, and the shared joy of building something unique togetherβ€”not as a battleground for real-life political or religious disputes. We are not trying to silence Dorena, we just want our space to be positive place where we can create this is not RL.

Focus energies that help opensim to flourish to not be at odds. Or to be held hostage with hate.

Dorena creates beautiful videos and AI, I would much rather see her videos promoting opensim and creativity. It has nothing to do with silencing her at all. I am a creator, when I open my browser and first thing I see is Trump or Putin all my creativity takes a nose dive, She deleted one of my comments explaining this she replied back to me to just block or not read her. Does she really want us all to block her is that her goal? What I see is this all started when she was attacked for her views, I get that - but by continuing this she is letting the other guy win because she stays wallowing in the same pit of dispair. Rise up!
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You are ranting extensively, but not once do I see you directly responding to her explanation that, if someone deletes their own comment, or Dorena herself deletes a comment from above your comment in the comment hierarchy, all replies to said comment are deleted. You are smart and I know you can comprehend her explanations, rather than making her repeat it over and over, and then ignoring it and seeing only what you wish to see, and replying on what you wish to rant about. If you have so many issues with her posts, why are you making so many comments? There are other agendas at play here, it seems. I guess I don't understand why so many are always ganging up on Dorena. And why do so many ignore the hate speech and horrible derogatory words that people like GlennXpletive use? Seems it is ok to be a bully and a hateful person, so long as people have a political camp in common.
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There is no agenda at play here, I have been in opensim nearly as long as Dorena, I have watched her post for years and never seen her under attack. The "people at play" since Glenn fight are trolls who want to silence her, this is what I am taking such offense at, she is constantly under attack now since the Glenn fight, he has been banned yet she continues on posting messages to him here at OSW when he cannot reply. Making it all public for months. Opensimworld isn't the place for public fighting is the point I am making. The comments deleted were ones I commented to her, 3 she then explained someone commented vile so she had to remove it, the reason you are seeing what you term ranting from me is because of comment removals, it looks like ranting when she does this, makes the person replying look like a ranter. Why all this needs to stop it takes conversations out of context then people are misunderstood.

This is a Opensim public forum not a battleground I know your stance of stand up and fight, but fight who? All of "us" cause Glenn cannot post now. Suzi said it was to flush out Trumpistas, I am not one and even if I were this is not the place for that, Opensim is international I doubt they will flush out that many here.

I don't like to see my friends attacked. She made it obvious she will continue, I will close the window now, this is what I wanted to avoid. The trolls all are doing the good ol bait and switch routine with comments and she is now doing this to all her friends (she has to when they spew the hate towards her) I replied to you to try to clarify yet once again, with all my comments I would think you would see my true motive which is wanting to keep a friend from spiraling down the hate path with the trolls. And taking us with her, this is when I close that door.
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Seriously, Opensim is a blank canvas, and can be used for whatever any creator wishes, good or evil or even just bland and neutral. Politics is only ever only just below the surface, and to many of us it's an important subject. Those who are not interested, or who just don't want to be involved are free to not involve themselves. No one is twisting your arm and forcing you to read those posts. Just ignore them, just as I habitually ignore The Box most of the time.
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Does that mean that the annoying witch Dorena will now be burned??
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Is that the penalty you think should be suffered by those who do as you have been doing? The original archaic meaning of a witch was: "archaic : to influence or beguile with allure or charm". Do you feel it is what you have been doing with your threads and posts?
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I prefer to get straight to the point.
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So what is your point in all this?
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Rise up means to rise up above negativity. It started when your views were attacked. Nobody is trying to silence you, my hope is that you would rechannel and focus to positive opensim related topics, since this is Opensim and it is mostly a fantasy world, RL topics belong in RL platforms. You are hellbent on "feeling" we are all out to attack you, not all of us. I have been here a long time too, Opensim was not founded on politics or religion it was founded by collaboration and free and opensource software. Lets just keep it focused on what it is.
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Any separation is illusory. We are the same people, and Opensim isn't a different world, just an extension of our very real world.
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While separation between the virtual and real worlds may be seen as illusory, boundaries still play a crucial role in maintaining the integrity and purpose of different spaces. Just as we might choose different environments for work, relaxation, or socializing in real life, Opensim can be a space where people choose to focus on creativity, community, and personal well-being, free from the divisiveness of real-world issues.
The posts are not just views against Donald Trump these posts are to create a rise and obtain likes. Dorena commented (then removed it) saying the likes on her post indicate her posts are well received then she gets attacked for those very views which continues the hate. Which divides us. I agree, with you it is obvious what the goal is here to me since Dorena cannot vote in USA, this is purely for a rise and likes. With no real concern for the opensim community or who it harms.
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Firstly, there is no separation between the supposed virtual and real worlds: they are merely different aspects of the same. Dorena does not post the things she does for likes or to derive vicarious pleasure. Nothing she posts will cause any harm to anyone, unless they're oversensitive Trump supporters, and I won't shed any tears over them! No, Dorena's concerns go way beyond the Opensim 'community' to the wider community of the whole world, which will be a much nastier and more dangerous place if the likes of Trump are allowed anywhere near the levers of power.
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As I have already written elsewhere. We are all real people and not just avatars, the two cannot be separated. I think it is important to discuss such elementary things, particularly because of the opportunity to exchange ideas internationally in OpenSim. And no one is prevented from limiting themselves to OpenSim. When OpenSim was first founded, I did a lot for the community. And yes, I have a lot of experience with OpenSim. But it is difficult to assert yourself against many know-it-alls and wannabe admins.
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Dorena, that is why I have been in this conversation for two days, I know all you contribute I miss that. I don't like to see the attacks against you, I would much rather see you contributing again. We all read you and understand your views we are all entitled to those views, you should never have been attacked, I also do not feel that attack should have stayed on Opensim for days so everyone could see that attack, I am sorry I know how that had to hurt you after all you have given to opensim. I understand that you would be hurt and angry, I would be too. Please know that sincerely some of us really value you and enjoy what you create. My hope is the focus at OSW can get back to helping each other instead of tearing each other down or blocking people.
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Thank you for your sensitive, friendly comment. Yes, I was attacked, and I also received something like this via PM: "First of all, you wrote your stupid post in two languages. Just a side note. And secondly, if the shoe fits, wear it... You prove time and again that you're stupid, you don't need a post from me for everyone to know that... If you think that will have consequences on my part, then try something... I'll gladly give you my address if you dare to come by... The fact that you're a guy is an open secret that's been going around for years... Come by and I'll knock the crap out of your ass....... "
Very nice, isn't it?? To be honest, hate messages like this convince me even more that I'm doing the right thing. People like that are also running around in OpenSim. That way I know where I stand with them.
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It's not about silencing honest criticism or satire but ensuring that conversations remain constructive and free from ignorance, vitriol, and prejudice. Some people pop corn for the shitshows, I am not one of them. If you value peace and quiet you would not be saying "Idgaf who I piss off."
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If it's not about silencing, then I wasn't talking about you, was I. And no, I value my peace and quiet because I like it that way, whether anyone else is pissed off or not. If I piss them off and they go off and cry in a corner about it or complain to someone else instead of me, that's fine. Do try to keep up.
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We all have a role to play in ensuring that our interactions do not inadvertently cause harm or perpetuate negativity. It's about finding a balance where everyone can coexist peacefully and feel valued, even amidst differing opinions.
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I disagree. Too many people already feel much more valued than they deserve to and knocking them down a peg or two isn't negative, it's positive.
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Yes I see how some are replying that is the whole point, why incite it? RL Religion and Politics have no place in OSW. It isn't why we come here. Some are here just for the shitshow, and some cause them for a rise and likes in the community. Where I take offense is when we post off topics like this that cause the rise, then when we comment on it, our comments are deleted so then the conversation makes no sense and causes more community confusion, is that the goal? Three or four of my comments were deleted here and not by me. That was knocking me down 3 pegs.
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I am staying out of the shit show here for the most but I have to say, no one can give a blanket statement on why we go to OS.

On my lands we have many churches, and many of us bring religion of ALL kinds to Opensim. There is room for all, and some of us do want politics and religion as part of the worlds we make.

But there is room for all.

On here, OSW? I guess we can't have nice things. Sadly these discussion always go this way.
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It's important to recognize that Opensim is a diverse and expansive platform, allowing each of us to create the worlds we envision, complete with the elements that matter most to us. Whether it's building churches, setting up campaign headquarters, or creating spaces that reflect our personal beliefs, Opensim offers the freedom to design and inhabit the virtual environments we choose.

No one is saying that you can't have a church or a voting booth, or that politics and religion have no place on your grid. In fact, one of the strengths of Opensim is that it provides room for all kinds of expression, and many of us cherish the ability to bring our full selves, including our beliefs and values, into the worlds we create. If your vision for your land includes religious structures or political elements, that's entirely within your rights and the spirit of what makes Opensim special.

However, the broader point being made is about maintaining the overall harmony of shared spaces within the community, especially in public forums like OSW (OpensimWorld). When we talk about leaving real-life debates in real life, it's not about limiting creativity or expression within your own grid. It's about recognizing that public spaces, where diverse groups of people come together, can quickly become contentious when dominated by divisive real-life issues.

We come here to escape RL we have hate all around us, why is it so important to divide us here?
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Then why do you keep replying? You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care what you think of what I say. Follow your own advice and go somewhere else.
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You are 100% right, most people are caring.
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Everyone is welcome to visit my grid anytime, if you ever need anything please just ask.
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