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Pagane created a Poll  6 months ago

It is obvious that a few mentally ill hysterics will not stop flooding this community with hate. The smarter of us have long ago figured out the simple recipe for control. In fact, the infamous Athenian democracy more than 2000 years ago solved the problem: Only DEMOS has the right to vote! Demos are only those who have property - landowners, merchants, craftsmen. The unemployed, politicians, soldiers, the mentally ill and all other landless people on handouts are NOT demos!


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Pagane
Just MOVE Nico paskvils to her group of bad ideas.
Believe me dog idea to bark against car rotating tires is extreme bad!
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Fred Beckhusen/Ferd Frederix✦✔
Dumb. I was born on January 1, 1970 as that is the date it shows on my avatar. And land is free. It costs me 1% of the CPU CPU on a I7 Intel NUC to run 127 regions at 14 cents/kw hour which is 1% of $12.42 ( according to my UPS) or or 12 cents a month.
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Pagane
Dumb? Trols NOT have land because this will make their IP address public!
Are this is problem?
Absolute YES! Because after you see where is located really some "well known" peoples (or groups) will start to think like me.
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AresHalostar
what is this drivel ?
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Pagane
Nothing. No way to explain to someone who read one time in month 2-3 posts and is against them...
Think what you want, but... no mather what:)
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Sodasullivan
I agree with you on the hysterics, but maybe creating an elitist class system where only X gets a vote is not the best answer. it certainly did not end well for the Greeks.
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Nico Kalani
Or for Socrates.
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Pagane
By all accounts, disgust with the gang of pseudo moralists and ex-communist fake democrats seems to have finally liquidated the OSW community.
Only a dozen real users?
Maybe it's time for me to get out of here too. There's no point in arguing with the dozen or so hardened haters and the few mentally ill...
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Dorena Verne✦
Sorry Pagane, but your choice of words is exactly what haters and mentally ill people use. How are you different from them?
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Arielle✦
I see 75+ online at most times. How big of an audience do you need? Very few I would consider as mentally ill or "haters". At best we get the occasional troll coming through which increases the amount online until things settle back down.
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Sodasullivan
and remember, that 75+ is just less than half of the people actually here and scrolling through the pages. Their are almost three times that, OSW just likes to pretend they do not exist. So technically, many of the largest grid owners with accounts here, would not have a vote.
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Copper
I wished there would be a poll to delete that "In the box". The time when that wasnt here at OSW was drama free. All dramas had to PM.. This box only increases hate :-(( Obviously also former PO3 is now also back as "Colonel"...loool OMG
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Arielle✦
The Sacrarium drama predated the Box if I remember correctly and even before that the copybot wars in general caused quite a bit of drama.
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Copper
Back then Satyr made a drama group. IMHO this should be enough...no need for "the box"
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Alter Kater
Yes, Pagane, there are too many mentally ill people in OSW, you are certainly one of them!
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Loboto Chan
I was thinking the same thing. Looks like some facebook-style pseudo-intellectual quackery.
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Arielle✦
Where is the Vote option for only 9+ year accounts can post? :)
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Susanna_Heller
the option is only available from 10 years so check back in a year
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Arielle✦
I would have and I think the 10 anniversary is really close as I have been 9 for some time already but figured there is vey few of us left here that joined up as soon as Satyr announced the opening of the site.
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Susanna_Heller
If I hadn't deleted my profile all the time, I would be older too
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Arielle✦
Nod I never deleted mine though I did take long breaks from logging in to see the daily drama.
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Susanna_Heller
what a drama.....that's how people are all over the planet. If you didn't know that, I feel sorry for you.
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Arielle✦
Seems most of it is on social media sites. I see very little of it when I log into real life.
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Arielle✦
It is maybe a good thing we have such a pressure relief valve instead of carrying it into R/L. Seems like where there is little or no internet where they have actual wars and R/L skirmishes.
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Susanna_Heller
Anonymous pressure valve for many things .... .. but when I look at the 1000 Karen on YouTube, you probably live near the desert in a small village :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL51H3RlooI
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Susanna_Heller
im übrigen heisst es you silly little thing not my .... die Sklaverei wurde auch in Deutschland abgeschafft , aber wer weiss was du für Fantasien hast
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Dorena Verne✦
I'm wrong again, Susanna, but I'm going to end this now and not respond to your vile writing any more...
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Susanna_Heller
you think replacement services are something different... lazy is lazy, I don't see any difference....
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Susanna_Heller
You have a lot of time to write... I always thought that as a hobby you were a carer in the family... I hope everyone is safe and well looked after?
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Dorena Verne✦
And again I'm wrong, I don't get any welfare, my silly little thing.*lol
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Susanna_Heller
Dorena Well, I know that you have lies as a second source of income in your life; otherwise you wouldn't get so much welfare money... you don't need to mention that here.
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Dorena Verne✦
me neither, "Darling"^^
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Susanna_Heller
i am not your Darling ? I am not a lesbian you are wrong here Dorena ...
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Dorena Verne✦
Hello Susanna-darling, I never wanted to retire*lol
This bickering about the German parties, which were all the rage at the time, yeah, that was too much, I didn't want to have anything to do with that anymore. And hardly anyone here will have been online for as long as I have with their own grid, why should I give that up? My priorities have just changed a bit..
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Susanna_Heller
Dorena, I thought you wanted to retire with your grid... lie lie lie... but I knew right from the start that you wouldn't do that...
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Ankhsenaton
I cannot vote or I will say I cannot vote (Like women with ancients Athenian ;-) but I see the point!
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Pagane
According to the current rules, anyone can vote!
Women who owned property in Athens had the right to vote. (Yes, both women with property :)
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Sodasullivan
Nope, women were not allowed to vote in most of ancient Greece, including in Athens. Nor could they own land on their own. Aristotle claimed women were incapable of making important decisions themselves. Athenian woman had little opportunity in economic and legal life, including politics. The big exception was Sparta. That was a whole different show. Women could not only vote and hold office and go to court, but held immense power all of their own.
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Nico Kalani
To add more detail to your excellent comment...

The disadvantage of being female in ancient Athena began at birth. The Athenians would, at times, kill their kids. “Historians believe that girls were at a higher risk of infanticide because of their gender, as most families preferred to have at least one healthy boy who could inherit their lands and fortune”.

So, that sucks.

Girls “did not receive any formal education because it was focused exclusively on boys. Boys were educated to play a role in the political and military life of the city-state of Athens. Due to this, the education of girls and women was seen as useless.”

But girls did learn how to cook, clean, and sew! So, that’s something. The thing is that “...the role of women was to marry and have children. Ensuring that the family continues on was the parents’ main concern, especially fathers, as they would not want the family fortune to disappear. To secure their legacy, fourteen-year-old girls would be married to older men usually chosen by their fathers or another male relative. Thus, girls would not choose their husbands nor have any influence over the matter”.
https://www.thecollector.com/athenian-women-in-ancient-gre...

But they could vote, right? Wrong. The fact is that, in Athens. women had no independent existence in the eyes of the law, leading Plato to propose that women should be given the same education as men, the same access to the law courts, the same rights to own and inherit property, to hold public office, to compete in athletics and to live and work as equals to men.

Didn’t happen.
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LeonitasLionheart✦
This is sparta!
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Ankhsenaton
yes, I just meant that I should choose an option where I can't post anymore ;-)
(I thought no women could vote in the early Athenian democracy, that's fine if they could own property and vote :)
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Dorena Verne✦
Sorry Pagane, but what you are saying and demanding is not one bit friendlier and more peaceful than the writing of certain other people here...
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Pagane
I have NEVER been unreservedly friendly and insanely good!
For me, reality and honor have always been leading!
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Dorena Verne✦
Where is the honour in denying disabled people and the unemployed the right to vote?
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Pagane
This is DEMOCRACY!
Today version is Liberal Democracy.
My prefered choice is old Bulgarian democracy - Demos is only wariors. OOOOPS.... Lets not comment, please:)
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Dorena Verne✦
no, I think there is no point in discussing it with you now
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