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Casual and Utterly Confident.
Believe in yourself and trust that no matter what happens, you’ll be able to handle it and learn from the outcome. Here's an outfit for those who are casual and confident. Maybe it doesn't fit now. No matter. You will grow into it.
oh HELLO: Outfits With Attitude
grid.copykat.ovh:12000:Xinashi
Believe in yourself and trust that no matter what happens, you’ll be able to handle it and learn from the outcome. Here's an outfit for those who are casual and confident. Maybe it doesn't fit now. No matter. You will grow into it.
oh HELLO: Outfits With Attitude
grid.copykat.ovh:12000:Xinashi
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My "oh HELLO" shop has outfits I've assembled, using items found in various stores. I don't claim to be the creator of these items. All I create is a unique look.
There seems to be some controversy about an item in this "Casual and Utterly Confident" outfit. Bella Diesel claims to be the creator of the items she sells in her shops. However, on my first visit I saw two items that I've long had in my inventory where someone with a different name and grid is listed as the creator. So, I have good reason to doubt Bella's claim of being the creator, even as that term is used in OS.
So far, Bella has not answered my very simple question, "Do you have an alt in Sacrarium?" Perhaps she and they are the same person. Maybe they aren't. Maybe either, or both, are selling each other's "creations," or even other people's, and claiming credit. Who can sort out this creator credit chaos?
It is true that people do a lot of work to copybot, import, modify, and create marketing items like logos, vendor textures and the like for the items we find in OS. But that does not make that person the creator of the product. It makes them an unwanted, uninvited, contributor to the work of the real creator.
Before you restrict permissions on "your" creation, let's see the permission you have from the original creator to import the item from SL into OS and be the exclusive distributor of it. Or, if you are the creator, please provide verification of that.
Read more: https://opensimworld.com/post/92283
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There seems to be some controversy about an item in this "Casual and Utterly Confident" outfit. Bella Diesel claims to be the creator of the items she sells in her shops. However, on my first visit I saw two items that I've long had in my inventory where someone with a different name and grid is listed as the creator. So, I have good reason to doubt Bella's claim of being the creator, even as that term is used in OS.
So far, Bella has not answered my very simple question, "Do you have an alt in Sacrarium?" Perhaps she and they are the same person. Maybe they aren't. Maybe either, or both, are selling each other's "creations," or even other people's, and claiming credit. Who can sort out this creator credit chaos?
It is true that people do a lot of work to copybot, import, modify, and create marketing items like logos, vendor textures and the like for the items we find in OS. But that does not make that person the creator of the product. It makes them an unwanted, uninvited, contributor to the work of the real creator.
Before you restrict permissions on "your" creation, let's see the permission you have from the original creator to import the item from SL into OS and be the exclusive distributor of it. Or, if you are the creator, please provide verification of that.
Read more: https://opensimworld.com/post/92283
@Suzan Von Otter you know that the most of the contents in here are from SL .. do you know how much work it is to copy and texture the Stuff ? This i my Time and my Heart i ll give for you all .. so the PPL have no Permission from me to resell .. i only need RESPEKT for my work and my Time .. RESPECT is no longer available in this Grid .. i think !
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I've found "your" "creations" in Sanctorium, but the "creator" there has a different name. So far you have not answered my question about you having an alt on that grid. Perhaps you and they are the same person. Maybe you aren't. Maybe either, or both, of you are selling each other's "creations," or even other people's, and claiming credit. Who can sort out this creator credit chaos?
Here is one way to approach this issue. There is a difference between "creator" and "contributor." You admit you did not create these items. Sure, you copied and textured them. But from the viewpoint of the actual creator, that only makes you an uninvited and unwelcome contributor to, not the creator of, the item now found in OS.
You demand respect for your work and your time to take and modify something not your own. Please show respect for the work and time of the real creator. Give them credit. Name them. And then I'd like to contact them to verify that they give you permission to copy, modify and be the exclusive distributor of this item in OS.
If someone wants to know who contributed to the creation of an item in this outfit, all they need do is look at the item's properties. About the items both you and someone from Sanctorium say they created, I suggest you discuss the issue with them.
Thanks.
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Here is one way to approach this issue. There is a difference between "creator" and "contributor." You admit you did not create these items. Sure, you copied and textured them. But from the viewpoint of the actual creator, that only makes you an uninvited and unwelcome contributor to, not the creator of, the item now found in OS.
You demand respect for your work and your time to take and modify something not your own. Please show respect for the work and time of the real creator. Give them credit. Name them. And then I'd like to contact them to verify that they give you permission to copy, modify and be the exclusive distributor of this item in OS.
If someone wants to know who contributed to the creation of an item in this outfit, all they need do is look at the item's properties. About the items both you and someone from Sanctorium say they created, I suggest you discuss the issue with them.
Thanks.
Yes, it's one thing to get content from SL after asking the original creator for permission to do that and actually receiving that permission and then to a) declare that this content is offered upon permission by the original creators and b) credit the original creators by name.
It's something else to take these things without permission. Of course, you don't credit the original creators, not only because you try to make people believe that you've created these things from scratch, but also so that the original creators will much less likely find out that you've stolen from them and sue the living hell out of you.
But if you steal from someone who has never agreed to share their content with you and then complain that others "steal" from you because you've never agreed to share pretty much the same content with them, that's just hypocrisy. Even if you've put work into that content, well, the original creator put even more work into it because they've created everything from scratch. But you demand being credited, and you demand theft protection, but you grant the original creator neither?
And seriously, if you copybot something from Sarcasticarium that has already been stolen from SL and modified, offering it as your own creation with new box art being the only change, and trying to credit yourself as the original creator, that's an absolute low. In this case, the content has been stolen twice already before it arrived in your shop, in both cases against the will of those who have offered it. Any claim that you're the creator is a lie, any claim that you've modified the contents of the box (e.g. retextured them) is a lie, and besides, any claim that you've bought these items in SL before exporting them in order to white-wash your deeds is a lie, too.
But As We All Know™, stealing from SL and stealing stolen content from Sarcasticarium is absolutely necessary in order for OpenSim avatars to not look like clay figures. Right?
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It's something else to take these things without permission. Of course, you don't credit the original creators, not only because you try to make people believe that you've created these things from scratch, but also so that the original creators will much less likely find out that you've stolen from them and sue the living hell out of you.
But if you steal from someone who has never agreed to share their content with you and then complain that others "steal" from you because you've never agreed to share pretty much the same content with them, that's just hypocrisy. Even if you've put work into that content, well, the original creator put even more work into it because they've created everything from scratch. But you demand being credited, and you demand theft protection, but you grant the original creator neither?
And seriously, if you copybot something from Sarcasticarium that has already been stolen from SL and modified, offering it as your own creation with new box art being the only change, and trying to credit yourself as the original creator, that's an absolute low. In this case, the content has been stolen twice already before it arrived in your shop, in both cases against the will of those who have offered it. Any claim that you're the creator is a lie, any claim that you've modified the contents of the box (e.g. retextured them) is a lie, and besides, any claim that you've bought these items in SL before exporting them in order to white-wash your deeds is a lie, too.
But As We All Know™, stealing from SL and stealing stolen content from Sarcasticarium is absolutely necessary in order for OpenSim avatars to not look like clay figures. Right?
There not selling their items. They are giving their items for free. As in no sale, no money exchange.
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Doesn't change the fact that fetching all the work takes a lot of time. Then the unauthorized offering of things is the bottom drawer.
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Every person who gets free clothes are sharing them, with others. Just like trees, flowers, houses, etc... I built some wall art, was making on my region (is not a shop nor is it registered with OS.) Was shopping at another store and seen it with a group of furniture. Was surprised to see it. But at the same time was honored to see it used among the decor. It had taken me hours to build from prim.
Isn't this why we set to copy, so we can all share. These people, who have shops, are they not wanting others to do different looks, with mixing and matching. I don't know maybe am wrong. But "Sharing is Caring".
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Isn't this why we set to copy, so we can all share. These people, who have shops, are they not wanting others to do different looks, with mixing and matching. I don't know maybe am wrong. But "Sharing is Caring".
I fully agree with you. I offer enough myself. BUT if it is blocked or not transfer things, there should be respect to use them only as private.
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The actual goal of "Sharing is Caring" was to conceal who got all those copybotted things into OpenSim. It would have been hard to tell who was actually behind all that if those things could be found in 500 freebie shops on 200 grids with 300 different creator tags. Each creator who had become a victim of copybotting, together with Linden Lab, would have had to DMCA each one of them, one by one, in many cases successlessly because the particular grid would have been hosted in a country where DMCA complaints don't work. Not to mention that, back in those days, the copybotters weren't the same persons as those who imported and spread the stolen content.
But here we're talking about 1 freebie shop on 1 grid. And the grid is hosted in a country with close connections to North American IP rights. Almost too easy to DMCA into total submission.
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But here we're talking about 1 freebie shop on 1 grid. And the grid is hosted in a country with close connections to North American IP rights. Almost too easy to DMCA into total submission.
STOP Resell MY Clothes !! !! AH !! Clothes are just at my Region German Rocks .. or at Grids they have my Stores on his Land !! Upload your own stuff and Respekt the no Transfer Options from the Creators !!!
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Good answer Nico. All these complaining B_ _ _ _ _ _, can keep complaining about so called reselling. There all copied from somewhere.
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