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This is probably going to cause some comments but its how the ILY Team feel today.
As the wife of the person who bankrolls nearly $1000 a year for us/you to all play in I Love You, funds the radio stations and the IT Team that keep our self hosts running ... could I please ask you all to play nicely otherwise the bank will be closed and I Love You will shut down.
I have seen comments over the last few weeks that make me think that my 9 year old daughter has more sense than some of the adults in OS..
Good Manners are the key - if you receive a TP request to another location and you are busy then either ignore the TP request or send an IM saying "Sorry I am busy".
If someone offers you free land on a Grid ask a couple of questions - how long has the grid been going, is it safe from vanishing and does it have a proper web address. Princess Alex (who has been working in OS since it was first released) was explaining to us how easy it is to web domain that can be directed to a laptop under a bed which will run a grid and a single sim BUT wont be able to have multiple VAR sims and 40 Avatars .... how long will the laptop keep running? How slow will the connection be? Just think before you agree to set your home somewhere.
OpenSimWorld (OSW) is a great place but people clamour to be #1 ... we are pleased when we hit #1 on the Live Board sometimes but being #1 isnt why we should be here ... we are here for fun, friendship and to build. It is easy to get to #1 on OSW by bringing on ALTS .. but what is the point in this? You end up talking to yourself just to get to #1 on the leader board.
Finally (and most difficult to word) - We have no problem with clothed childlike people being with other clothed childlike people in a Moderate sim, BUT if an clothed adultlike person is with the clothed childlike person we have the start of a major issue. The next stage is the naked childlike and naked adultlike engaging in sexual activity. If this is reported by online moderators (myself, Malik and Bethany) then the offending avatars will be ejected from ILY and banned from ILY, their ip address reported to the Zeta Owners with a request that they are banned from Zeta. So far we have reported and banned 4 avatars over 1 year but we seem to be seeing more childlike people landing on ILY - just be warned we are always on line for a reason - to keep things safe and legal for everyone. We are emailed whenever ANYONE lands on ANY ILY land and we check if we havent seen the avatar before. We also keep a log of all arrivals and we have done since the first day ILY opened so if you want to know when you first came here just ask.
Finally
Have fun ....
Love Karen Mansour
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Spax Orion✔ 7 days ago
The best option is to run your own grid if you have the resources to do so. This way you get to make your own rules for your regions and you owe nobody an explanation on how you decide it operates or whom is allowed to enter. Everyone makes your grid a wonderful place. Some by coming, and some by LEAVING! Kudos to you and your husband for offering a safe & legal haven for entertainment.
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Tainted Angel 8 days ago
I haven't heard from you in forever!! I hope you and your beautiful family are doing really well. Much love to you and the family. Your work has always been amazing to me. ~Tainted Angel
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MidnightRain Glas 8 days ago
the I love you grid is one I do love to visit, I just can't get to all the places I love going to...for me as an adult... in any virtual world, do not want to be confronted, by a child looking Avie.. in all my years I have only delt with 2 that I trust or enjoy in my life...The ones I see around in todays world...look like look sexy and flat chested... they say they are adult, but I don't believe it...I would ask you to leave...if you did not, your banned.... you look like a duck, talk like one (to me ,........ you are one.....Frankly I am to old to care what anyone says if any grid doesn't allow child Avies.......then go elsewhere. did it ever cross your mind (a child avie just might be an agent behind the keyboard) waiting for s ucker to bite.....
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CherylFurse 8 days ago
Since we are banned with three accounts of three different grids, we have decided anyway not to go with a working account of OSgrid e.g. on Zeta anymore. Why should we have 100s of accounts just to come with one of them to Zeta?
We are so sorry for Niki and Mathilda Stark where we joined their parties and like it much. But Zeta seems to be the worst Grid in OS just by their own policy. If Zeta doesn't want to have visitors from outside, ok. Then do your own thing.
For the private grid owners: Daddy runs his Decadence Grid on his own Computer at home. It works fine. We live there on a 5x5 sim and he has his origin Grimm there. I have high frame rates and everyone who goes on Decadence Grimm will say the same. I think the frame rate of Grimm on Decadence Grid is even higher than on Copycat, which was professionally made by Dame. By the way, copycat is banned by Zeta too.
OS is just a Legoland for Hobby Nerds. Why so much trouble? Why thinking that OS is sooo important?
In future Metaverse of Zuckerberg will blast away all what you know. SL and OS is then just nostalgic impression of how VR began in the 90s.
To the child Avis one word: I don't think that any of the child Avis are really minors in RL. Here in OS are only elderly people. About 60 years old (I'm a rare youngster with 42 years) and all the child Avis are just 60 years old men. Everyone just wants to live and play their dreams here. Every woman who is RL woman has an Avi that looks 30 years younger than they are. And men do the same as well. And for the sexual component you should know that there is also RP in BDSM that is called Age play. ABDL (Adult Baby Diaper Lover) and DDlg (DaddyDom little girl) is foremost also common in the USA in the BDSM scene. Nothing unusual and such seek places especially adult minded. Why should they go on moderate sim? By accident perhaps?
On adult sim it is normal that you can be confronted with sexual things. That's why Sims are signed for adult. Sex doesn't mean only vanilla fucking of adults. Perhaps here in OS most people are too old already to know what's really going in sexual things in RL. Perhaps OS should be named as retirement home place of ex SL users. lol
Anyway, why to do so much trouble? We are just perhaps 200 active users world wide. Not more. I have after almost 4 months in OS already 6 accounts with Cheryl Furse. How many do you have? So all the statistics about members is just fake. I only see perhaps the 200 users every day. There are not more. And every user is just building the whole day on his Sim.
RL Infantility of adults playing in Legoland meets serious sexual needs of age play as role-play. Look in the mirror what you do the whole day in OS. It is infantility of 60 yo adults.
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We are so sorry for Niki and Mathilda Stark where we joined their parties and like it much. But Zeta seems to be the worst Grid in OS just by their own policy. If Zeta doesn't want to have visitors from outside, ok. Then do your own thing.
For the private grid owners: Daddy runs his Decadence Grid on his own Computer at home. It works fine. We live there on a 5x5 sim and he has his origin Grimm there. I have high frame rates and everyone who goes on Decadence Grimm will say the same. I think the frame rate of Grimm on Decadence Grid is even higher than on Copycat, which was professionally made by Dame. By the way, copycat is banned by Zeta too.
OS is just a Legoland for Hobby Nerds. Why so much trouble? Why thinking that OS is sooo important?
In future Metaverse of Zuckerberg will blast away all what you know. SL and OS is then just nostalgic impression of how VR began in the 90s.
To the child Avis one word: I don't think that any of the child Avis are really minors in RL. Here in OS are only elderly people. About 60 years old (I'm a rare youngster with 42 years) and all the child Avis are just 60 years old men. Everyone just wants to live and play their dreams here. Every woman who is RL woman has an Avi that looks 30 years younger than they are. And men do the same as well. And for the sexual component you should know that there is also RP in BDSM that is called Age play. ABDL (Adult Baby Diaper Lover) and DDlg (DaddyDom little girl) is foremost also common in the USA in the BDSM scene. Nothing unusual and such seek places especially adult minded. Why should they go on moderate sim? By accident perhaps?
On adult sim it is normal that you can be confronted with sexual things. That's why Sims are signed for adult. Sex doesn't mean only vanilla fucking of adults. Perhaps here in OS most people are too old already to know what's really going in sexual things in RL. Perhaps OS should be named as retirement home place of ex SL users. lol
Anyway, why to do so much trouble? We are just perhaps 200 active users world wide. Not more. I have after almost 4 months in OS already 6 accounts with Cheryl Furse. How many do you have? So all the statistics about members is just fake. I only see perhaps the 200 users every day. There are not more. And every user is just building the whole day on his Sim.
RL Infantility of adults playing in Legoland meets serious sexual needs of age play as role-play. Look in the mirror what you do the whole day in OS. It is infantility of 60 yo adults.
AireTenku 6 days ago
My advice to someone who wants to age-play? Go to Fetlife and hook up with people with adult bodies who play as, or play with, people with adult bodies pretending to be children.
Age-play in OS, as, or with a child AV, is illegal in many countries. Any depiction of even fictional minors who are engaged in sexual activities is illegal in the U.K., Australia, Canada, France, Ireland, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Russia, South Africa, and Switzerland. Someone in those countries can try to use the argument about RL age-play (done by adults in adult bodies Cheryl). The courts won't care.
Someone age-playing in OS with an underage looking AV is safe from the law if they aren't in those countries. However, the legality of fictional child pornography in several countries, including the U.S., is a grey area. Someone in those grey area countries can take their chances I suppose.
But if anyone, from countries where virtual age-play is illegal, views age-play in OS, then the age-players, from anywhere, could be found guilty of creating and distributing child pornography. No big deal, right? However, you might not want to ever to visit those places...
This is why SL bans age-play. This is why people who operate grids, and why people who age-play in with non-adult AVs need to be concerned.
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Age-play in OS, as, or with a child AV, is illegal in many countries. Any depiction of even fictional minors who are engaged in sexual activities is illegal in the U.K., Australia, Canada, France, Ireland, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Russia, South Africa, and Switzerland. Someone in those countries can try to use the argument about RL age-play (done by adults in adult bodies Cheryl). The courts won't care.
Someone age-playing in OS with an underage looking AV is safe from the law if they aren't in those countries. However, the legality of fictional child pornography in several countries, including the U.S., is a grey area. Someone in those grey area countries can take their chances I suppose.
But if anyone, from countries where virtual age-play is illegal, views age-play in OS, then the age-players, from anywhere, could be found guilty of creating and distributing child pornography. No big deal, right? However, you might not want to ever to visit those places...
This is why SL bans age-play. This is why people who operate grids, and why people who age-play in with non-adult AVs need to be concerned.
CherylFurse 6 days ago
We have here in OS anyway mostly German and American grids. Then it is not a big deal. Right?
No one is interested in 200 active Users of OS where perhaps 6 child Avis walk around lol
In Germany or the states is doesn't matter. So what? And someone who comes from the countries can use VPN. Problem solved.
It is not the law. The problem in OS are the problem people who get hysteric just by seeing bare nipples. That's the reason.
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No one is interested in 200 active Users of OS where perhaps 6 child Avis walk around lol
In Germany or the states is doesn't matter. So what? And someone who comes from the countries can use VPN. Problem solved.
It is not the law. The problem in OS are the problem people who get hysteric just by seeing bare nipples. That's the reason.
AireTenku 6 days ago
Going to court to claim that the laws about the creation and distribution of virtual child pornography don't matter is not a winning strategy. But thanks for the advice about how users breaking the law can get away with it.
However, most, if not all grids are not interested in protecting the creators of virtual child pornography. They are interested in protecting themselves. They would want to avoid the possibility of charges being brought because they are inadvertently involved in the distribution of this illegal content.
SL allows the nipples of child AVs to be shown. The same is true of several grids in OS. But the child AV hysteria is the direct result of age-players and the topic here is not nipples. It is age-play.
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However, most, if not all grids are not interested in protecting the creators of virtual child pornography. They are interested in protecting themselves. They would want to avoid the possibility of charges being brought because they are inadvertently involved in the distribution of this illegal content.
SL allows the nipples of child AVs to be shown. The same is true of several grids in OS. But the child AV hysteria is the direct result of age-players and the topic here is not nipples. It is age-play.
CherylFurse 6 days ago
The nipples on Facebook is the metaphor. It is an American culture thing.
For Europeans bare nipples are not a big deal. Prude cultures are doing hidden then much more really Nasti things. Think of the Catholic Church. It's the same. Priests are forbidden to have sex and should live in chastity. And what is the result? They look out little girls and boys to give them blowjobs and abuse them.
The more conservative a culture is, the more nasty and kinky things happens behind the curtain.
I have a RL friend who moved to Dallas right now. She thought it is in Texas the most conservative state like we have in Bavaria in Germany. And now she feels at home there because Dallas must be the most kinky city lol
When you look in Arabian countries we have similar. lol You think you are in the fundamentalistic islamistic country and all live to the rules. When you live a year in such a country you wonder what they do behind the curtain and the best is: Everyone knows it. It is an open secret. On surface they are all soooo religious but in truth...
That's human nature. And we have to accept it. You won't be able to reeducate humans for their nature.
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For Europeans bare nipples are not a big deal. Prude cultures are doing hidden then much more really Nasti things. Think of the Catholic Church. It's the same. Priests are forbidden to have sex and should live in chastity. And what is the result? They look out little girls and boys to give them blowjobs and abuse them.
The more conservative a culture is, the more nasty and kinky things happens behind the curtain.
I have a RL friend who moved to Dallas right now. She thought it is in Texas the most conservative state like we have in Bavaria in Germany. And now she feels at home there because Dallas must be the most kinky city lol
When you look in Arabian countries we have similar. lol You think you are in the fundamentalistic islamistic country and all live to the rules. When you live a year in such a country you wonder what they do behind the curtain and the best is: Everyone knows it. It is an open secret. On surface they are all soooo religious but in truth...
That's human nature. And we have to accept it. You won't be able to reeducate humans for their nature.
Bobbi Fox 7 days ago
Dear Cheryl
I make the following comments
1) Your comment everyone on OSW is 60 is unevidenced and belied by your own statement you are 42. But hey who cares
2) I do care about your comments on child avis. In some jurisdictions including the UK where I live the depiction of CGI child sex images is a criminal offence. (UK law-Section 62 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 created the offence of possession of a prohibited image of a child. It is triable either way and punishable on indictment with a maximum of 3 years imprisonment.) I believe there are similar laws in many US states.
My second point is there is a difference between sex between consenting adults and child sex. Adults have power children don’t. You have no more idea than I do whether those engaging in child sex here are children or adults. You simply make unevidenced assertions. On line Child sex abuse is endemic and no reason to think OSW is immune (and yes I will provide child sex abuse evidence links if anyone doubts) . Anyone who thinks it’s just another branch of sex and tries it on our regions will be dealt with as Karen Mansour has made clear.
Kind regards
Bobbi Fox
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I make the following comments
1) Your comment everyone on OSW is 60 is unevidenced and belied by your own statement you are 42. But hey who cares
2) I do care about your comments on child avis. In some jurisdictions including the UK where I live the depiction of CGI child sex images is a criminal offence. (UK law-Section 62 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 created the offence of possession of a prohibited image of a child. It is triable either way and punishable on indictment with a maximum of 3 years imprisonment.) I believe there are similar laws in many US states.
My second point is there is a difference between sex between consenting adults and child sex. Adults have power children don’t. You have no more idea than I do whether those engaging in child sex here are children or adults. You simply make unevidenced assertions. On line Child sex abuse is endemic and no reason to think OSW is immune (and yes I will provide child sex abuse evidence links if anyone doubts) . Anyone who thinks it’s just another branch of sex and tries it on our regions will be dealt with as Karen Mansour has made clear.
Kind regards
Bobbi Fox
CherylFurse 7 days ago
Ever talked with a child Avi here in OS? No? Then do it. You will find out very fast, how they speak and what they talk about that those are adults and must be at minimum 30 or 40 years old. I would bet older than this and some say frankly they are 60 years old men and I believe it.
What evidence you need? Just talk with them.
That's evidence enough for me.
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What evidence you need? Just talk with them.
That's evidence enough for me.
SheaButter 8 days ago
If your an SL player, your goal is to be number one. If your an OS player, your here for fun. Who gives a shite who is number one? Put a hundred NPC's, it's your land. The number of people showing, will draw the people there. It's the fun, that your having, is what makes you stay there.
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Safinemahoe2✦ 8 days ago
“We do not accept child like avatars within I LOve YOu apart from ILU Nude Beaches.”
Quoted from I love you osw page.
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Quoted from I love you osw page.
Karen Mansour 8 days ago
I do not understand that comment - read what I wrote - I have removed the comment on the ILU page - just so you can understand.
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Jupiter Rowland 8 days ago
It's always the same if you've got rankings or anything that could be taken for or misused as rankings: Someone will always try to get and stay on top. And those who make that their goal, senseless as it may be which it usually is, also tend to play unfair.
OSW has an actual ranking, namely the most popular sims. I guess it was introduced for newbies to find the hottest go-to sims, but with the level of often unsanctioned misuse going on for years now, it does more harm than good. Sim owners park purpose-made alts with blank profiles on skyboxes or get hacked OSW beacons that take NPCs for avatars to falsify visitor stats. Grid owners create armies of alts and park them on other people's sims on their grids just to try and fill the Top Ten with sims from their own grid. There even seem to be events with crowds that mainly consist of alts of only one or a few people just to cheat the sim into the Top Ten or at least force competitors out.
Of course, everyone swears that it's all honest visitor traffic.
A few who can't hope to cheat their sims into the list of most popular sims use the list of most recent sims as a surrogate. Some have the audacity of deleting and re-entering their sims once a week or even more often, thereby drowning actually new sims out.
Your free land paragraph may at first glance read like, "Come to ZetaWorlds and grab a parcel on ILU," but I have to agree. Good free land is hard to find. Whoever thinks the lag that one often encounters on free parcel sims is the worst that could happen is naïve.
It's especially home-hosters who run a grid on their old Windows laptop which they just haven't thrown away yet who also tend to run public grids with open registration like they'd run a private grid, namely with zero responsibility for visitors and even less for their residents. If they ragequit OpenSim or even only find that they've got no more time for it, they're likely to pull an Alex and shut down their grid server with no prior announcement and without giving IARs and OARs to their residents, sometimes because they don't even know what that is.
Now, the reason why there is so little actually good free land offered by more experienced people is because these people have often made their own bad experiences with free land rentals. Often, tenants turn out to be not much more than squatters who rent a piece of land and rarely show up again, if ever. Some don't even do anything with their land. Others do what Mike Townsend of Tropicana complained about: They do decorate their place, but then they spontaneously decide to return to SL, never to come back to OpenSim, and leave it to the landlords to clean up the parcels. And let's not forget those who send in armies of alts so that they can rent out entire sims all for themselves.
Last but not least, if you make your threat real and shut ILU down, exactly none of those who have caused the shutdown will blame themselves for it. Some won't even know what happened that caused ILU to disappear. Others will claim what they said or did was fully justified, or worse, blame you. And then there are those who will blame you for having rules in the first place, rules that they'll stay they have never agreed to follow (although they technically have by setting foot on your land).
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OSW has an actual ranking, namely the most popular sims. I guess it was introduced for newbies to find the hottest go-to sims, but with the level of often unsanctioned misuse going on for years now, it does more harm than good. Sim owners park purpose-made alts with blank profiles on skyboxes or get hacked OSW beacons that take NPCs for avatars to falsify visitor stats. Grid owners create armies of alts and park them on other people's sims on their grids just to try and fill the Top Ten with sims from their own grid. There even seem to be events with crowds that mainly consist of alts of only one or a few people just to cheat the sim into the Top Ten or at least force competitors out.
Of course, everyone swears that it's all honest visitor traffic.
A few who can't hope to cheat their sims into the list of most popular sims use the list of most recent sims as a surrogate. Some have the audacity of deleting and re-entering their sims once a week or even more often, thereby drowning actually new sims out.
Your free land paragraph may at first glance read like, "Come to ZetaWorlds and grab a parcel on ILU," but I have to agree. Good free land is hard to find. Whoever thinks the lag that one often encounters on free parcel sims is the worst that could happen is naïve.
It's especially home-hosters who run a grid on their old Windows laptop which they just haven't thrown away yet who also tend to run public grids with open registration like they'd run a private grid, namely with zero responsibility for visitors and even less for their residents. If they ragequit OpenSim or even only find that they've got no more time for it, they're likely to pull an Alex and shut down their grid server with no prior announcement and without giving IARs and OARs to their residents, sometimes because they don't even know what that is.
Now, the reason why there is so little actually good free land offered by more experienced people is because these people have often made their own bad experiences with free land rentals. Often, tenants turn out to be not much more than squatters who rent a piece of land and rarely show up again, if ever. Some don't even do anything with their land. Others do what Mike Townsend of Tropicana complained about: They do decorate their place, but then they spontaneously decide to return to SL, never to come back to OpenSim, and leave it to the landlords to clean up the parcels. And let's not forget those who send in armies of alts so that they can rent out entire sims all for themselves.
Last but not least, if you make your threat real and shut ILU down, exactly none of those who have caused the shutdown will blame themselves for it. Some won't even know what happened that caused ILU to disappear. Others will claim what they said or did was fully justified, or worse, blame you. And then there are those who will blame you for having rules in the first place, rules that they'll stay they have never agreed to follow (although they technically have by setting foot on your land).
GlennXpletive 8 days ago
Jupiter, you are absolutely correct. Cheating has always been around life, but now, not just in OS, it is going on massively in real life and now we are all suffering the consequences. Some never learn until the shit hits the fan on them in one way or another. In the business world we have things like Fair Trade agreements. Countries created treaties for fairness. All of this stimulates competition FAIRLY, and 99% of the time is a win win for all. But the past 2 years have been nothing but cheating in every aspect of life and now EVERYONE suffers. Until the ones that have not been around the block before have a shitpile of bad life fall on them, they will never believe it, accept it or prevent it and only find excuses to continue it.
But this situation you pointed out, exposes that in this particular realm of the world. Even though it is "just" OS, doesn't stop it from happening everywhere else.
Case in point of repercussions. I was PROUDLY banned from SecondCrapLife. So bad they MAC banned me. (Not that I can't get around it, but I don't want to go where I am treated like garbage, attacked, berated, called names, insulted and my avatars attacked by 20 uneducated, ignorant, racist, gender confused, simpletons. So WHY PAY FOR THIS? As a premium member for years, I went to freeloader. Before they day I spent defending myself from an attack of 20 avatars, I pulled out all of my money and long sold my 6 sims. The Lindens felt defending myself was too much for them to bear and banned me forever.
Fast forward to now, I just got in the email a request to re-join and become a premium member. And I would want that WHY? Why do I get that now? Because all that is left is welfare and drug abusing freeloaders and they banned the ones that brought real money in. Now they are so in decline they are begging us to return. In a sense, they cheated. They protected the broke ass attackers and banned the revenue drawing defenders. Now they can suck my ass forever.
Sorry if this went off the rails, but alot applies to Jupiter said.
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But this situation you pointed out, exposes that in this particular realm of the world. Even though it is "just" OS, doesn't stop it from happening everywhere else.
Case in point of repercussions. I was PROUDLY banned from SecondCrapLife. So bad they MAC banned me. (Not that I can't get around it, but I don't want to go where I am treated like garbage, attacked, berated, called names, insulted and my avatars attacked by 20 uneducated, ignorant, racist, gender confused, simpletons. So WHY PAY FOR THIS? As a premium member for years, I went to freeloader. Before they day I spent defending myself from an attack of 20 avatars, I pulled out all of my money and long sold my 6 sims. The Lindens felt defending myself was too much for them to bear and banned me forever.
Fast forward to now, I just got in the email a request to re-join and become a premium member. And I would want that WHY? Why do I get that now? Because all that is left is welfare and drug abusing freeloaders and they banned the ones that brought real money in. Now they are so in decline they are begging us to return. In a sense, they cheated. They protected the broke ass attackers and banned the revenue drawing defenders. Now they can suck my ass forever.
Sorry if this went off the rails, but alot applies to Jupiter said.
Karen Mansour 8 days ago
Thanks for the words Jupiter - glad that someone with some long times in OS has the same views.
Final paragraph - we are here in OS and we will be staying in OS - we have invested too much time and money into it now. Thanks KM xx
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Final paragraph - we are here in OS and we will be staying in OS - we have invested too much time and money into it now. Thanks KM xx
Antonia Ling 9 days ago
I have to read your words two times because english/american is not my native language. And I say yes, true words and good words. Sometimes I'm wondering why people fight for nothing. Why? To be famos for a couple of seconds? Thinking to be better then others? I must laugh about these people, be sure.
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Han_Held 8 days ago
"The fighting's so vicious because the stakes are so low." Meaning that the ones fighting have nothing else, so they're desperate for scraps of "fame", or attention or simply acting out of spite ("if I can't have it, neither can you"). As the kids say; "this is why we can't have nice things"
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Ludo Davis 9 days ago
I find lot of nice places after the First #100
https://opensimworld.com/dir?vm=live&grid=&search=&cat=&st...
A lot to explore and people to chat with outside all the shops, dancing places and bots.
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https://opensimworld.com/dir?vm=live&grid=&search=&cat=&st...
A lot to explore and people to chat with outside all the shops, dancing places and bots.