Suzi_Avonside @Suzi_Avonside

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Wedi bod gwmpas am sbel... Ers 2010 yn achos OSG


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Is there something wrong with the region? I can't HG teleport there from Speculoos World or OSGrid. :(
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Please do keep your unwanted and unsought opinions to yourself. Dorena hasn't made you feel crappy, you have chosen to feel crappy, so that's entirely on you. I'm not aware that Dorena has ever claimed to be a pacifist, as I know she acknowledges the right of sovereign peoples to self-defence. I know she is a person of peace, as am I, but that does not mean we are pacifists. There is a huge difference.
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I have to admit, I'm a little confused because the definition of pacifism is someone who opposes war or violence as a means of settling disputes, but given what you said about being a person of peace but not a pacifist, is questionable, to say the least
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As I said to Dorena before she blocked me, that is exactly what it is, an opinion, and since voicing that opinion, I have had a flood of questionable and frangly unnaceptable comments with the absurd assumption that it was anything except an opinion, so, thank you for your misinformed input, Oh by the way, I am Paranoid Schizophrenic with suicidal tendancy, I dont have the choice of feeling crappy or not. and the events of the past two days have dragged me down to the state where I am considering removing myself from everything in the worst possible way, so, your "opinion" about me not feeling crappy or even lieing about the fact, is duly noted and dumped in the trash, discrimination and hate does not exist in this community? yeah... of course not!
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Go see the doctor Joe and stay away from our community if it is not good for you. Depression that drives you to the brink of suicide is not something to be taken lightly.
I have reversed the blocking and I hope it stays that way.
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You reverse the blocking after you order me to stay out of this community, and also after you and your lapdogs call me a psycho. what part of my openness about my mental health disability did you fail to understand before you and your "Team" unleashed a TORRENT of discrimination and hate? And why did all of this start because YOU disagreed with or just didnt like my OPINION...... You wanna know my opinion now? You are vile, sadistic, inhumane and compulsively abhorrent to any self-respecting human being on this entire planet, ho to hell, because, trust me, after YOUR actions, I am already there, bitch
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Interesting. I would have never pegged you for schizophrenia. But I would definitely peg you for bi-polar, have you had any psychotic episodes? What I am seeing is a highly intelligent person with a lot of real life adjustment problems, who suffers from bipolar disorder, and light multipersonality disorder.
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Joe, you chose to come here and cause issues with what you wrote. It's true that not everyone here is an angel, and people are just going to treat you as any other, and react when challenged by the kind of stuff you write. We tend to give as good as we get.

Given your claimed vulnerabilities, clearly this forum isn't the place for you. The responsbility for taking care of your condition lies with you when you have the capacity, and it's no good trying to hide behind that condition when the inevitable backlash occurs.

There are 'vile, sadistic, inhumane and compulsively abhorrent' people here but Dorena isn't one of them, and has indeed recently faced off a whole lot of abuse related to her nationality, which you chose to ramp up on because you couldn't properly comprehend the video she made mentioning it. It's highly unlikely that anyone is having a go at you because of your neurodivergent status, as so many others are likewise neurodivergent. People here react to what they read: write something contentious, and you'll get a backlash. Tough skin required.

Life is tough at times, and I reiterate, only you are responsible for you being here, and no-one but you is responsible for the way you feel unless someone is actively having a go at you. In this circumstance the old rule of 'if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen' comes into play.

Hardly anyone would wish to aggravate your condition, but at the same time, no-one is going to walk on eggshells around you. At the same time, there will be many other equally neurodivergent people here, not just you, and they seem to manage just fine, probably because they don't make the mistake of entering a fray where they can't hold their own. The Box is notoriously nasty, not helped by the inducement to 'say something nice' - almost a red rag to some. It's brutal, and wise souls rarely comment there as there is a more than evens chance you'll get your head bitten off. Others, like Nico, who seems to have a platinum hide, strides in there and completely discombobulates pretty much everyone with her surreal comments.

You have choices to make, but if you decide to remain, I suggest avoiding controversy, and maybe think along lines of maybe writing something about how Opensim helps you with your condition, if it indeed does at all. We are not without compassion, but at the same time we aren't just going to stand there while someone has a go at us, especially when they appear to have completely misunderstood a comment or article - which happens with worrying regularity; comprehension skills often seem to be in short supply among too many on this forum.
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Wonderful stuff Dorena!
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Great train, and will definitely be in the queue when it's released to the public. What I now want to know is, where is Aldi?
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a lot are asking for aldi :D i think i should create one too
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Then they'll be wondering where Lidl is!
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Waves frantically back! (?)
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LOL Waving frantically to join the group
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if you look on the left hand sidebar you will see the group listed, click on that and on the banner top you will see a blue button, click that and it will send a request to me for membership.
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I suspect that FreshVirtualWorld is a Russian troll, a Putin stooge, and if not, the language they use, especially in the quote you use is very similar to the rhetoric used by Putin and the Russian extreme-right who are his main support (along with the communists, bizzarely, but these are nostalgic Stalinists, who are hardly better.

Those who think a group such as this is superflous are the same kind of people who stood aside and enabled Hitler in 1930s Germany. Not bad people, but people who do nothing to prevent the triumph of evil.
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You would be quite welcome Courreges - especially with a name like Malatesta :)
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hehe .. I choose this name wisely ;)
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If anyone would like a hoodie like the one so well modelled by Dorena, I can sent them out. All sizes, but for women only at present. If men would like one, please message me and I'll consider producing one, depending on how many would like one.
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hum .. consider I'm on the list to have a male version :)
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Working on it Courreges :)
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yay thank you ! (but take your time.. )
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You are indeed Dorena, Wilkommen!
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I think to remind ourselves of the nature of what we're all dealing with here we could do far worse than watch the film American History X, or maybe watch it for the first time. It is an excellent film, though hard to watch at times.
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Xpletive, is that you?
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if u really are interested in who i am
The names i use to go by are.
Amber.NL
Amber.Tanaka
Kohaku.Grid

my old grid domain was
KohakuGrid24.ru

old GridName
KohakuGrid24

and to clarify your question. no i have never used the name Xpletive.
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I have no interest in you, or in your former grid. However, your opinions are reprehensible.
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then dont ask me to verify who i am by popping a retarded question like that dumb bitch >.<
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I didn't ask you to verify who you are. Any misunderstanding is yours.
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u did try to link my behavior to the name Xpletive.
and i am letting u know that i am a different person.
(i am giving u an answer on your question but it seems the answer doesn't sit well with what u want the answer to be. )
however i guess that's your problem tough.
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At least the same mindset as him...
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It would seem so, yes.
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Says the person who now works for the fascist GlennXpletive at his beach. I don't always agree with Cyber, but in this he is correct to assert his identity, and I will support him and others in this.
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@Suzi_Avonside Did I say anything against @Cyberglo that the majority here appreciates ?
Try to find a word that I could have said against someone when he did nothing to me?
You seem to be the very example of what I was saying, people who can't help but say bad things when it has no importance here....

I really like what Cyberglo does and have often said so! I liked this post too, because I support all those who feel attacked.
Here and in real life I have nothing against gays, lgbtxyz+-*/, blacks, blues or shepherds even German one!! (on the contrary I love German shepherds and all animals)
Even If I dont always like the way he says his opinions (and I don't always understand it or read it. Once again, I'm French and I don't master all the subtleties of English. So try to speak to me in French before giving your opinion on what I write!) I will always be with Glenn, he is one of the few that supported me after some dramas when I was about to leave all this shark bag !
@Dorena Verne you know I like you too and I'm sad you were hurted and that's exactly what I mean, no one has to hurt anyone here, we are neither very many, nor surely, so different from each other!
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By supporting Xpletive you condone his behaviour. We are known by those whose company we keep. But of course, it's your prerogative.
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We all indulge in behaviours at times which others may find objectionable. Even so continuing to support another is not the same as condoning their behaviour. If we each held on to that, we would all be hating everyone.
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Another one who just does not get it. Xpletive is a fascist. I wish there were other words I could use, but there are not. Are you telling me that you support fascism? I doubt that you do, so I suggest thinking on it. What you're suggesting is that a blind eye should be cast... Fascism goes way beyond objectionable, it is an affront to humanity.

I am not normally given to hatred, I'm tolerant and understanding, but toleration of evil is a crime. Were Xpletive a child, of course I'd condone attempts to steer them away, but clearly they are not, but have made a conscious choice. They are completely and utterly culpable

All it takes for evil to triumph is that good people do nothing.
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What I do understand is that people who are dogmatic have the precursor to being a tyrant or fascist and from that perspective, there are many who have the potential to become fascists if they don't learn to be a little less dogmatic
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Whilst I strongly disagree that dogmatism in this context is any kind of precursor to becoming a tyrant or fascist, I concur with the idea that the true evil of fascism is that ultimately we have to use the methods of fascism to combat it. It does not allow for any other approach. Of course, should someone who is a fascist recant and change their ways, all power and respect to them.

However, the best way of avoiding the need to denounce fascism or fascists is for societies and groups to do that work by default so that fascist voices are always challenged.

Again, I fond myself quite flabbergasted that you fail to grasp the gravity of this issue.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

—Martin Niemöller
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I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately nobody really wants to hear that. It's better to look away and keep your mouth shut.
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They will hear it a thousand times! I will never remain silent, as that would mean abandoning the habits of a lifetime. I have campaigned against fascists all my adult life in RL, and though I cannot do it so well there now, I can do it in places like this! Fascism needs to be challenged wherever it manifests.
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I don't understand the contradiction either, but I'll give up trying.
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Easy contradiction to see if one has children who are supported even though their behaviours are not.
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Great that there is this focus on Linux. I have Ubuntu MATE on most of my hardware. It's a pity that the more up to date corporate identity for Ubuntu wasn't used on the stand, as the one used went out of use well over a decade ago... https://design.ubuntu.com/
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I'm not sure about forgiveness, but I know I never hold grudges as life is simply too short.
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That's great when one can do that and I didn't think I held them either until I went through a life change and came to realize I was repressing and burying my grudges with large quantities of alcohol. When I had to stop drinking a lot were bubbling back up.
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This will date me, but in school in the late 60s I was subject to some bullying from one particular person. They just would not leave me alone, and it got to the point where I was at my wits end, so, unfortunately I punched them. They were more emotionally shocked than physically, and I ended up having to answer for my actions to the deputy head teacher, but the one thing positive that came from that incident is that I wasn't bullied ever again at that school.

Bullying always triggers something in me, and I will always take a stand against a bully, wherever they show themselves. I guess that's why in later life I became a labour union representative with a specialism in representing workers who were being bullied by their managers or employers. It's sadly all too common.
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Yeah, I did that and got accused of restricting someone's freedom of speech when all I was doing was deleting an irrelevant rant that was about as imaginative as it ever is... No prizes who it was *giggles*. That person was free to go and moan all about it somewhere else, thus no restriction in freedom of speech. We don't have to provide a platform, even if costs us nothing.
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I guess my approach is that of an old anti-fascist who has been involved in local campaigns to keep the far right fragmented in terms of their activities in RL. I'd say do whatever it takes to deal with your feelings, just be aware that this many headed hydra will reappear and it will have to be dealt with. The site isn't the issue, it's the lack of moderation, and yes, you have a very real point in that it could be moderated in a way that's favourable to the far right (and that is effectively where it stands anyway). And the 'problem child' is, as you say, only part of the problem, just as Trump isn't the real problem of Trumpism (he's far too stupid for a start) as anyone who has read Miles Taylor's Blowback will be aware.

Getting on with our lives, both in reality and in virtual is vitally important, and whilst I am aware that some see virtual worlds as an escape, ( and nothing wrong in that) I tend to regard them as a microcosm of the real world.
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I understand where you're coming from perfectly Jaimie, but for me leaving this site would mean acknowledging that toxic person behind the attacks has won, and I'm not prepared to do that. It's not okay in RL, so why indeed should it be okay online? Indeed, I think the fight to eradicate this kind of hatred is even more crucial online simply because it's so often given the free pass it isn't in RL. One of the biggest problems is that social media won't act to stem the politics of hatred, and that's the main way in which it promotes itself as a result.
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I'm not sure that forgiveness is warranted given that the transgressions are very real, and despicable. I noted a conversation where there was mention of the terms and language used, that maybe the use of milder language may have been more appropriate to put across a point. However, that could only be the case were the opinions to be expressed were acceptable, which they were not. That individual is now going around crowing that they are the injured party when that is far from being the case. The viewpoints they were expressing are despicable and definitely cross the line into hate speech. There is no need to forgive, or even to feel that there is any kind of burden to be borne by you, you are not the guilty party. Certainly you should distance yourself from any responsibility in any of this. I certainly do not carry any guilt around with me, or feel that I have to make any atonement for the comments I have made. In comparison any comments we have made, even at their most extreme,, have been completely respectful of the culprit's humanity wheras theirs have besmirched the character and sought to dehumanise in the most disgusting manner. Forgiveness there can only be reasonable when that individual themselves proves themselves worthy of that forgiveness, something I doubt will ever come to pass.

It is sad when posts are deleted, and even sadder when people are driven from this site all down to the actions of one deplorable individual who some, even now, having seen the evidence of their eyes, still try to minimise and be apologists for the most awful behaviour.

We need to stand in solidarity, for I think we all know that we will be faced with a situation once again where the weak man will attack someone for having the audacity to question him, only I suggest that this time, instead of taking him on head on, (difficult when he's blocked people anyway) we offer support to the afflicted and then, make individual reports to the owner of the site, including screen shots of the offending texts.

I'm all for peacefulness here in OSW, but not at any price, and certainly not at the price of tolerating bigots.
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I agree with you. Some people may be annoyed that I haven't finally let the topic rest and quickly return to the friendly everyday life. I would love to, but too much is too much. And the fact that some people here simply delete their discussions is another slap in the face for me. My own comments, some of which are still full of hurt, are simply wiped away like dirt. Solidarity is important. Even more so when one of us is hurt in such a disgusting way, as has happened. This morning I was asked whether I believe in God and that you have to forgive yourself in order to be forgiven.
But the world isn't that simple.
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Let them be annoyed... Until and if they find themselves in a similar situation, and let's face it, Xpletive is indiscriminate and will turn on anyone who so much as dares to question him. If I was asked that question about whether I believed in an imaginary man in the sky my reply might be seen as quite rude. As for forgiveness, one has to be guilty of something in order to be forgiven, and you, and no one else commenting was guilty of anything, only the perpetrator of hate speech was guilty, and yet those people talking about forgiveness seem to regard his infractions as a nothing. I am disappointed in Hyacinth for deleting her posts and the comments that followed, but maybe she had her reasons. Those annoyed that you won't let the subject drop are to be dismissed, they are the ones who just want an easy life without having the sometimes difficult decision of taking sides. Life's not like that, and sometimes a stand has to be taken. You are right, the world isn't that simple.
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Your posts are not mean or vicious. As for poking the 🐻, eh. That 🐻 has been poking for the entire time I have been here... For years.
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Nah, Glenn is a complete prick. His knob might have fallen off, hence the impotent anger, but he's still an utter prick. Get your 'GlennXpletive is a dick' hoodies here!
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