Suzi, I own Virtual Melody Grid, I host events there, and I have rented out regions there, but I don't need the region rentals to pay for my server.. Thats not why I opened my grid.. my grid is a private community for musicians dj's and music lovers, I have free land to give to people who want to participate in that kind of community.. ONLY the venues on my grid are public.. and to become a member its by invitation only. I also own regions on other grids, and I also host performers on WolfTerritories grid, plus I'm a performer myself.. as a performer, I have no problem sharing what venues have live music with others, as a venue owner, I have no problem telling musicians what other venues and grids have live music, as a grid owner, I have no issues sending musicians or music lovers to another grid.. to me, the more events there is.. the more support and attraction there will be for others.. I do pay usd dollars via paypal to my performers.. and I still support them and encourage them to seek out other venues and grids to play on.. I have note cards made up to share with them how to advertise and promote in opensim.. I have notecards with other venues.. I am placing a hypergrid teleporter to other grids and music venues.. I have note cards I pass out to new people coming into opensim on how opensim works etc.. I try to be very supportive.. if MORE people did this.. we would build a strong community.. I would not ever open or start a grid to rent lands or regions ever.. why?.. because you can run your own regions on OSGrid for free, you can run Ferd's software on your own computer at home for free, if you depend on others to pay for your grid by renting regions and you can not pay for that grid hosting on your own, without help from anyone.. you probably shouldn't have a public grid with regions for rent.. That's just my opinion.. I support my community members on my grid.. if they want to start their own venues, or host their own regions on osgrid or by using dreamgrid.. I will be the first to offer help.. because as a small community, that's what you do.. but I see people (other grid owners) getting bent out of shape and angry, calling names, and spreading vicious lies, and crying ohhhh you're poaching.. THAT is disrespectful to your community members! SO I am going to leave this here.. this is a quote from a friend I had a private discussion with.. "It's a shame that a grid's entire dynamic is how to accumulate the most renters rather than doing the best they can to support their grid and their community." YES.. it IS a shame! Shame on them!