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For Chris84, you deserve to know who you and all the others are, I am....
I am...
Philip Rosedal!!!
yes that's right, no I am Elon Musk, and now I will adopt the X here as my profile picture! Long live the X!
but please, but relax instead of talking nonsense, how you like to spout nonsense thinking you are smart and trying to show you are smart, and serious people instead laugh at this nonsense you say.
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I am...
Philip Rosedal!!!
yes that's right, no I am Elon Musk, and now I will adopt the X here as my profile picture! Long live the X!
but please, but relax instead of talking nonsense, how you like to spout nonsense thinking you are smart and trying to show you are smart, and serious people instead laugh at this nonsense you say.
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AHAHAHAH this is great!!! ahahahah i think it is the funniest thing i have ever read and it highlights all your mental limitations and those like you AHAHHAHA!!!
Ferraris is an idiot who elected himself as a "MILITARY CONSULTANT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" in one of his posts to publicize AviTron, and you confuse me with him HAHAHAHA
Also I have been arguing for at least 2 and a half years that avitron was adopting a failed system and would implode! but what an imagination you and other people have ahhahahaha
I swear, I am having too much fun and you are really ridiculous some of you hahaha
Besides I am EUROPEAN and not SOUTH AMERICAN like Ferraris.
but relax and stay focused on the post, why all this desire to unmask a simple user who is really just himself and is an OS user like all of you? but you just made the biggest comical joke in my last 50 years of life I swear! hahahahaha
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Ferraris is an idiot who elected himself as a "MILITARY CONSULTANT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" in one of his posts to publicize AviTron, and you confuse me with him HAHAHAHA
Also I have been arguing for at least 2 and a half years that avitron was adopting a failed system and would implode! but what an imagination you and other people have ahhahahaha
I swear, I am having too much fun and you are really ridiculous some of you hahaha
Besides I am EUROPEAN and not SOUTH AMERICAN like Ferraris.
but relax and stay focused on the post, why all this desire to unmask a simple user who is really just himself and is an OS user like all of you? but you just made the biggest comical joke in my last 50 years of life I swear! hahahahaha
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so Cyber... it's really all long with a lot of "I am awesome" and "you don't know me or my mother" scattered throughout the comment loool.
I know of you that you are a good person who tries to help others, you are always helpful and you have created many things that you make available to manage for example security in the region, you also make scripts if asked and you do it friendly.
You live in your own way because this is good for you, and it is perhaps the best thing a user can do in certain cases and if he can afford it, and especially if he has no interest to make a community or to be part of a community through a world run by a third person (hypergrid helps in this for example, you can be part of a community while having your own wonderful custom made world using Dreamgrid and being very free to do in your world what you prefer).
I will be honest though, not even half of your comment was lost on me....
I said that I'm sure you contribute positively to the community by releasing useful or just nice things and helping those who ask you with extreme empathy, and that you often state what you eat at dinners... but... could you rewrite the comment in two words? or I'll have to read it as soon as I have time because it's really, really nice but also long and with challenging concepts looool
so, I am going to avail myself of the right to not respond for 70% of your comment, and postpone the hearing until I have been able to read it in its entirety.
in the meantime, thank you for commenting.
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I know of you that you are a good person who tries to help others, you are always helpful and you have created many things that you make available to manage for example security in the region, you also make scripts if asked and you do it friendly.
You live in your own way because this is good for you, and it is perhaps the best thing a user can do in certain cases and if he can afford it, and especially if he has no interest to make a community or to be part of a community through a world run by a third person (hypergrid helps in this for example, you can be part of a community while having your own wonderful custom made world using Dreamgrid and being very free to do in your world what you prefer).
I will be honest though, not even half of your comment was lost on me....
I said that I'm sure you contribute positively to the community by releasing useful or just nice things and helping those who ask you with extreme empathy, and that you often state what you eat at dinners... but... could you rewrite the comment in two words? or I'll have to read it as soon as I have time because it's really, really nice but also long and with challenging concepts looool
so, I am going to avail myself of the right to not respond for 70% of your comment, and postpone the hearing until I have been able to read it in its entirety.
in the meantime, thank you for commenting.
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how silly is your comment, how can you compare a "newbie" registration on a social site with a user of OS and SL for years, how do you think i know everything? i am an OS and SL user like everyone else, and i read, i get information i go around the grids and talk to people.
according to you, who are so smart and shameless, people outside this social don't talk to each other by exchanging chat screens or posts? loool but how smart you are!
your comment is the usual useless insulting comment, shame on you for what? to say that you are probably one of those begging for users around the grids too? because your dictator tone this imposes as a thought, you would like a slice of truth to be erased.
ahhahaha but activate thought and reason, but where do you see the venom? throw off your mask and stop writing nonsense...
Shame on you for making such a silly comment looool
I won't ban you because you are hilariously funny looool
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according to you, who are so smart and shameless, people outside this social don't talk to each other by exchanging chat screens or posts? loool but how smart you are!
your comment is the usual useless insulting comment, shame on you for what? to say that you are probably one of those begging for users around the grids too? because your dictator tone this imposes as a thought, you would like a slice of truth to be erased.
ahhahaha but activate thought and reason, but where do you see the venom? throw off your mask and stop writing nonsense...
Shame on you for making such a silly comment looool
I won't ban you because you are hilariously funny looool
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exactly, but then again, as is often the case, any fairly straightforward post written by an unintegrated and unfamiliar character becomes the target of moralists and respecters who justify the unjustifiable in order to defend the idifensible loool.
many don't realize that they then go off topic, and then open other discourses that have no coherence with the post, and then receive more or less attention based on their comments, luckily at least here the pagan offenses are not there! loool
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many don't realize that they then go off topic, and then open other discourses that have no coherence with the post, and then receive more or less attention based on their comments, luckily at least here the pagan offenses are not there! loool
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I respond to Nico and the others in one comment.
it is quite clear that as of today they are only working to take users who were previously banned or even insulted by other grid managers, and here are many posts by former members or avitron members who have complained of this treatment, so anything you write is just a bland justification for your friends who have those grids who first ban then do what they can to grab a large number of users, because avitron has a predominantly South American community, rich in people and it is throaty for everyone.
there is little to say.
For Nico I say this :
the very AviWorlds you take as an example, in the chatbox said he removed the ban to avitron to welcome their users by giving clear instructions on how to do it, so you assume that after blocking avitronians voluntarily, he now voluntarily welcomes them because he wants to revive his grid now destroyed in user numbers by his own former partner alex ferraris, plus we all know that avitronians know how to travel very well in HG, so much so that they are full of items taken from other grids for which for years on this site they were attacked by people like you. ..
The fact that a grid has been open for many years without having closures or second thoughts doesn't mean it is a very good and functional grid, it just means that maybe it has the financial ability to keep it open, there are mote others that have been open for many years and are stable and don't go begging for users like Boam does, but stay quiet and go about their business, and some I have mentioned.
Boam has many former users who did not like the experience in aviworlds under its management, and I am sure scattered around the grids you can find many of them, including stories of users who were not refunded, banned for no reason who sent emails without ever receiving a response, users who lost their free land for no reason users who did not get IAR and OAR as promised, these users prove that even aviworlds though always open is still mismanaged, and even he or you will deny these facts, for sure find these users scattered around various grids who have their own story to tell, but which Hypergrid business just so happens to deny knowing and therefore will not publish anything about this, however publish about ferraris failures and Boam's prowess. ..
the HG story that Nico mentions of avitron users, is only valid up to a small percentage of people, because if you have shut down and insulted avitronians in the past, then probably many of them know HG and many of them have already been in grids like avworlds...
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i advised them some grids, the ones that don't try to beg users, read the post well, you write nonsensical things because you can't read and you insist on defending the indefensible... so before you write "read well!" you don't have to write something...
so again, honor to the grids that do not beg users.
your goodism is laughable, first you spit on people then you welcome them with a funny air!
and Nico,I repeat you out of the biblical passages.... "the devil when he wants your soul licks your hands".
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it is quite clear that as of today they are only working to take users who were previously banned or even insulted by other grid managers, and here are many posts by former members or avitron members who have complained of this treatment, so anything you write is just a bland justification for your friends who have those grids who first ban then do what they can to grab a large number of users, because avitron has a predominantly South American community, rich in people and it is throaty for everyone.
there is little to say.
For Nico I say this :
the very AviWorlds you take as an example, in the chatbox said he removed the ban to avitron to welcome their users by giving clear instructions on how to do it, so you assume that after blocking avitronians voluntarily, he now voluntarily welcomes them because he wants to revive his grid now destroyed in user numbers by his own former partner alex ferraris, plus we all know that avitronians know how to travel very well in HG, so much so that they are full of items taken from other grids for which for years on this site they were attacked by people like you. ..
The fact that a grid has been open for many years without having closures or second thoughts doesn't mean it is a very good and functional grid, it just means that maybe it has the financial ability to keep it open, there are mote others that have been open for many years and are stable and don't go begging for users like Boam does, but stay quiet and go about their business, and some I have mentioned.
Boam has many former users who did not like the experience in aviworlds under its management, and I am sure scattered around the grids you can find many of them, including stories of users who were not refunded, banned for no reason who sent emails without ever receiving a response, users who lost their free land for no reason users who did not get IAR and OAR as promised, these users prove that even aviworlds though always open is still mismanaged, and even he or you will deny these facts, for sure find these users scattered around various grids who have their own story to tell, but which Hypergrid business just so happens to deny knowing and therefore will not publish anything about this, however publish about ferraris failures and Boam's prowess. ..
the HG story that Nico mentions of avitron users, is only valid up to a small percentage of people, because if you have shut down and insulted avitronians in the past, then probably many of them know HG and many of them have already been in grids like avworlds...
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i advised them some grids, the ones that don't try to beg users, read the post well, you write nonsensical things because you can't read and you insist on defending the indefensible... so before you write "read well!" you don't have to write something...
so again, honor to the grids that do not beg users.
your goodism is laughable, first you spit on people then you welcome them with a funny air!
and Nico,I repeat you out of the biblical passages.... "the devil when he wants your soul licks your hands".
There is no biblical passage "the devil when he wants your soul licks your hands." What else are you wrong about?
Again, you offer AviTron members no help. Your criticisms are empty words of use to no one.
Your comments about AviWorlds need to be addressed to the person I quoted, Maria Korolov at Hypergrid Business.
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Again, you offer AviTron members no help. Your criticisms are empty words of use to no one.
Your comments about AviWorlds need to be addressed to the person I quoted, Maria Korolov at Hypergrid Business.
is not a biblical passage; it is a figure of speech.
anyway, if you think about it, the truth is this, and then Avitron users before avitron were scattered in other grids and still are, because the decline of avitron happened already months ago with the introduction of premium accounts and the removal of free lands from 5 thousand prims.
that is why the attitude of certain grid owners makes me laugh.
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anyway, if you think about it, the truth is this, and then Avitron users before avitron were scattered in other grids and still are, because the decline of avitron happened already months ago with the introduction of premium accounts and the removal of free lands from 5 thousand prims.
that is why the attitude of certain grid owners makes me laugh.
OpenLiar. 16 hours ago:
"and Nico,I repeat you out of the biblical passages.... 'the devil when he wants your soul licks your hands'."
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"and Nico,I repeat you out of the biblical passages.... 'the devil when he wants your soul licks your hands'."
"Thank you for clarifying that, in your country, the bible is not a religious book, at least not in your language, or something. And I apologize. I should try not to offend by calling people a liar. I will call them gluttonous and hypocritical instead, as you do."
but where did you read that the Bible is not a religious book? but when did I write it and where?
but do you want to make a fool of yourself again? if in the comments I wrote to you that it is a translation error and that it is a saying of wise men from my country, what can't you understand? perhaps the "Export collada" button is missing and so you don't fit in with the discussion forums?
I would really like to understand what problem you have for being so repetitive....
I am not Frodìid but maybe we all give you a little psychiatric support come on--we are here to help.
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but where did you read that the Bible is not a religious book? but when did I write it and where?
but do you want to make a fool of yourself again? if in the comments I wrote to you that it is a translation error and that it is a saying of wise men from my country, what can't you understand? perhaps the "Export collada" button is missing and so you don't fit in with the discussion forums?
I would really like to understand what problem you have for being so repetitive....
I am not Frodìid but maybe we all give you a little psychiatric support come on--we are here to help.
O my God--you have nothing better to do known.
so I'll explain it again, I'm European and my language is not English, so I'll explain it easily at least you'll stop sticking to this useless context.
It is a saying of some wise men from my country.
So, I repeat, as I wrote above, religion has nothing to do with it.
Did you understand that, or do you want to keep attaching yourself to it to pass as an intelligent person?
greetings--and try not to offend, Nico-Intelligent.
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so I'll explain it again, I'm European and my language is not English, so I'll explain it easily at least you'll stop sticking to this useless context.
It is a saying of some wise men from my country.
So, I repeat, as I wrote above, religion has nothing to do with it.
Did you understand that, or do you want to keep attaching yourself to it to pass as an intelligent person?
greetings--and try not to offend, Nico-Intelligent.
Thank you for clarifying that, in your country, the bible is not a religious book, at least not in your language, or something. And I apologize. I should try not to offend by calling people a liar. I will call them gluttonous and hypocritical instead, as you do.
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inside you hope they come in droves, otherwise you wouldn't offer them a free region (actually 5), you do this because you know very well that many AviTron users can't (or don't want to) pay for regions and are looking for free solutions.
well know that they go to many grids cheering free land by promising store, it is in their DNA and they are good copybotters, so they make many grid owners like you gluttonous.
be honest with yourself...
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well know that they go to many grids cheering free land by promising store, it is in their DNA and they are good copybotters, so they make many grid owners like you gluttonous.
be honest with yourself...
ive offered the same offer for other gris, there's is no difference. I enjoy my semi small grid, im not doing this just to get more people.
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"Long live AviWorlds" is very similar to "We are AviTronianni! We are the best!"
Also I think you are no longer puilito, you just have fewer closures, but you have many stories of bans toward users without responding then to their emails, refunds for regions never issued, IARs and OARs promised and never issued, and grids blocked for futile reasons or because you were told by someone who never really substantiated his reasons and you did not verify, you just issued the ban, then proposing it, indeed forcefully setting it, in the grids opened by your clients in that very expensive H4OS, as with Friends Grid for example which found grids banned without even knowing it and thus becoming less friendly. .. so you impose your choices on others as well and where you shouldn't, yes, you are like Ferraris.
You also fail to manage AviWorlds properly, you have already lost users and are struggling to rebuild them, 5 thousand members don't count, avitron boasts 10 thousand between duplicates and curious accounts, it counts what you see when you are in a grid, often aviworlds is simply open but not working well...
But you of course will deny everything, it's ferraris art, so those who have experienced these situations with you know well that it's the truth what I wrote, and as usual, your friends' messages count for little... the truth is always something else, you only made a name for yourself by accusing ferraris in the past, but everyone knows, hate is the other side of love ;)
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Also I think you are no longer puilito, you just have fewer closures, but you have many stories of bans toward users without responding then to their emails, refunds for regions never issued, IARs and OARs promised and never issued, and grids blocked for futile reasons or because you were told by someone who never really substantiated his reasons and you did not verify, you just issued the ban, then proposing it, indeed forcefully setting it, in the grids opened by your clients in that very expensive H4OS, as with Friends Grid for example which found grids banned without even knowing it and thus becoming less friendly. .. so you impose your choices on others as well and where you shouldn't, yes, you are like Ferraris.
You also fail to manage AviWorlds properly, you have already lost users and are struggling to rebuild them, 5 thousand members don't count, avitron boasts 10 thousand between duplicates and curious accounts, it counts what you see when you are in a grid, often aviworlds is simply open but not working well...
But you of course will deny everything, it's ferraris art, so those who have experienced these situations with you know well that it's the truth what I wrote, and as usual, your friends' messages count for little... the truth is always something else, you only made a name for yourself by accusing ferraris in the past, but everyone knows, hate is the other side of love ;)
We Ban users because of breaking TOS or engaging in illegal activities. Banning Members is only done as a last resort. AviWorlds is still amongst the big fish in our monthly stats and its because we offer a stable environment and great support. God Speed as you say. Everyone knew it was only a matter of time before the grid went down. Onto your next Adventure. Just please do not drag a ton of people down with you when you decide to ( Change Business Modules )
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it's a lie, you have many emails asking you what point of the TOS was violated, you NEVER RESPONDED to these users, and I know because they were in grids where I have accounts and they are at least 4 different grids... so you tell lies knowing you are telling lies, you lie because you are like ferraris.
Greetings Boam... and good luck.
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Greetings Boam... and good luck.
also with your partner, you know very well that you have very low numbers, only you still have some visits from HG, but you actually have duplicate connected and few active users, it is easy to manipulate numbers. I would add that you have a conflict of interest, because you want with your partner that aviworlds is the best, but meanwhile you sell OS services to third parties at unspeakable prices forcing them to accept your bans that are never justified! it is easy to say "I banned them for TOS violation", but then you should also answer people's emails to explain the reasons. for me you are the twin brother of Ferraris, with a little cleaner face, but still like him.
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You are wrong Lone, I am not an Avitron user, I had an avatar there, like many others even just out of curiosity, and I knew it would close like many others, and I will tell you, for all the crap written by Ferraris in his blog where he even challenged Second Life, I am glad, I just feel sorry for the money of the people in Avitron, but then again they have been warned here several times.
Now let's expect the next bullshit and grid from Ferraris! loool
As I said, I have accounts in different Grids, besides OSGrid, I have avatars in open, closed, French, German, American, Italian and even in a Japanese grid. Like all of them I have scattered avatars, and like all of them I get my ideas.
Now that Avitron has announced it's closure everyone trying to grab its users, be careful who you put in your grid, people who have certain vices hardly change.
And I repeat, I am not from Avitron, also because that grid never worked and was really bad.
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Now let's expect the next bullshit and grid from Ferraris! loool
As I said, I have accounts in different Grids, besides OSGrid, I have avatars in open, closed, French, German, American, Italian and even in a Japanese grid. Like all of them I have scattered avatars, and like all of them I get my ideas.
Now that Avitron has announced it's closure everyone trying to grab its users, be careful who you put in your grid, people who have certain vices hardly change.
And I repeat, I am not from Avitron, also because that grid never worked and was really bad.
lols... I'll keep guessing - BTW our new land sales site is up, making an announcement tomorrow you can get a 4x4 region with 10k prims for around $12/$13 and upgrade your prims later if you wish https://www.wolf-grid.shop
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no need Lone, there is no need to guess anything as you see I am simply honest :) and anyway I never said that your grid or your work are not worth anything. in fact I am sure they will improve, as well as now you have a more complete price table according to my thought. I just have a lot of reservations about OpenSim-NGC, I don't think it's a real project to protect the creators, but also technically I don't like it, that's all. Don't think any more about this post, after a few days it goes into oblivion, and if you comment on it then it takes prominence again, from what I could see here that's how it works. it's past now and reading the comments there are many clarifications that you yourself have made, so that's fine.
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feel free to say what you think, you did not make an offensive comment but you expressed a truth and your own thought in a free way.
That person you named (I have the revulsion even to write the name now) here in the comments tried to : defend the indefensible, making up absurd things, deliberately offended people who have little money, which is shameful and reading the comments it is there for all to see, tried to impose his thought by writing words in capitals which is equivalent to shouting.
does not deserve more attention, only reporting, and I add, as I said, staying on the topic of the post, it does not help Lone Wolf, in fact it disproves those who claim that the community in the wolf grid is made up of good people. In fact I think most of them are simple people, excluding a few, but she might make believe otherwise with her clearly discriminatory and silly comments, her account should be blocked by the administrators for T.O.S. violation.
so, I think you wrote something correct by expressing yourself without offending, unlike many others.
have a nice day :)
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That person you named (I have the revulsion even to write the name now) here in the comments tried to : defend the indefensible, making up absurd things, deliberately offended people who have little money, which is shameful and reading the comments it is there for all to see, tried to impose his thought by writing words in capitals which is equivalent to shouting.
does not deserve more attention, only reporting, and I add, as I said, staying on the topic of the post, it does not help Lone Wolf, in fact it disproves those who claim that the community in the wolf grid is made up of good people. In fact I think most of them are simple people, excluding a few, but she might make believe otherwise with her clearly discriminatory and silly comments, her account should be blocked by the administrators for T.O.S. violation.
so, I think you wrote something correct by expressing yourself without offending, unlike many others.
have a nice day :)
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Araya Sunshine...
kitely's system is to conserve resources, which the land of wolves does not have, which is why it is very slow to load everything, so Sunshine wrote more nonsense, kitely once it has loaded a region does not make it slow because it is ill conformed and ill colelgat aalr esto of the map... this grid then was taken by me as a reference for the changes made to the code and never made known as sources but which are known, which include so much innovation that OPENSIM-NG does not have but tries to integrate unsuccessfully, Lone's is false advertising (as said by other users, inquesto post in these comments that 1.2 million prims you don't even run them and they don't work! ) and this post comes from comments in a fraudulent post, as it pointed to wolf territories as the best innovative grid thanks also to Opensim-NG which HAS NOTHING SPECIAL! just look at the code... and for what only would wolf territories be special? for a control panel? guys, I prefer funzonality to a control panel if then nothing works for me in the grid! you start having to say your words by force but without realizing that you are repetitive! and this woman, user of Lone, even attacked people's poverty, it is shameful and therefore blocked, she would be to be banned for TOS of OSW since she made clear offensive and racial distinctions, indeed I will report her maybe, so we see how it works here.
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kitely's system is to conserve resources, which the land of wolves does not have, which is why it is very slow to load everything, so Sunshine wrote more nonsense, kitely once it has loaded a region does not make it slow because it is ill conformed and ill colelgat aalr esto of the map... this grid then was taken by me as a reference for the changes made to the code and never made known as sources but which are known, which include so much innovation that OPENSIM-NG does not have but tries to integrate unsuccessfully, Lone's is false advertising (as said by other users, inquesto post in these comments that 1.2 million prims you don't even run them and they don't work! ) and this post comes from comments in a fraudulent post, as it pointed to wolf territories as the best innovative grid thanks also to Opensim-NG which HAS NOTHING SPECIAL! just look at the code... and for what only would wolf territories be special? for a control panel? guys, I prefer funzonality to a control panel if then nothing works for me in the grid! you start having to say your words by force but without realizing that you are repetitive! and this woman, user of Lone, even attacked people's poverty, it is shameful and therefore blocked, she would be to be banned for TOS of OSW since she made clear offensive and racial distinctions, indeed I will report her maybe, so we see how it works here.
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just one thing i had missed, there is little technically advanced... the control panel is yes advanced for inexperienced users but it is nothing really special, DreamGrid offers similar things with SimSorround where the terrain even is generated in real time, only this feature is reserved for grid managers and not for users.
in fact I remind you that the lone control panel is external to the opensim-ngc project... and so it would work on other properly configured opensim grids.
Has lone's grid advanced more than other grids? i don't think so my friend, there are other Opensimulator derived engines that are much more efficient than opensim-ngc... and this i think you know too, if you don't I invite you to visit other grids.
the structural choice he made does not make it better than other grids with proprietary servers. Please check for yourself.
selling something for gold when it is not at all is tantamount to misleading people. i understand his huge expenses, but then again, if he invests so much money you can see that he has it of his own or that someone makes him have this money... and i am not talking about tenants, besides, his structure is not a guarantee that allows him to say "i am the best of all".
at the end of the day, Wolf grid is slow and not worth the cost. that's all, but lone now, selling out a bit and thus agreeing with my initial post, has decided to introduce a low cost region, already it will be more honest as an offering.
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in fact I remind you that the lone control panel is external to the opensim-ngc project... and so it would work on other properly configured opensim grids.
Has lone's grid advanced more than other grids? i don't think so my friend, there are other Opensimulator derived engines that are much more efficient than opensim-ngc... and this i think you know too, if you don't I invite you to visit other grids.
the structural choice he made does not make it better than other grids with proprietary servers. Please check for yourself.
selling something for gold when it is not at all is tantamount to misleading people. i understand his huge expenses, but then again, if he invests so much money you can see that he has it of his own or that someone makes him have this money... and i am not talking about tenants, besides, his structure is not a guarantee that allows him to say "i am the best of all".
at the end of the day, Wolf grid is slow and not worth the cost. that's all, but lone now, selling out a bit and thus agreeing with my initial post, has decided to introduce a low cost region, already it will be more honest as an offering.
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all grid ownewr are dedicated to their own grids, and honestly it has nothing special technically, the control panel is inspired by what already dreamgrid for example can do with simsorround in home grids...
what you say is correct, however, please give me examples of where I went wrong and at what points.
The wolf grid is simply slow.
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what you say is correct, however, please give me examples of where I went wrong and at what points.
The wolf grid is simply slow.
I would give you examples but honestly I didn't see the points where you went wrong. I read the comments of people that I know and trust saying that you were wrong about some of the server comments you made. I'm not techie so really all I can comment on is my experience with the grid.
I do not believe that all grid owners are dedicated as Lone is. And because I spent a lot of time there and spoke with him a lot I can say for sure that he provides exceptional customer service. Even when the problem didn't get fixed I, at least, knew that I was listened to.
And as far as my "control panel" comment I wasn't comparing it to other grids panels. I was simply saying that I loved it and it was easy for me to use and understand. It was as detailed as I needed it without being overly technical.
You know...... it's really ok for people to say positive things when it's deserved. You do not need to come back to try and argue the positive statements that I make. They are statements about my experience there in which you have no knowledge of until I tell you. Accept that this was my experience or don't but don't try and convince me that the grid was more or less to me than I have stated.
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I do not believe that all grid owners are dedicated as Lone is. And because I spent a lot of time there and spoke with him a lot I can say for sure that he provides exceptional customer service. Even when the problem didn't get fixed I, at least, knew that I was listened to.
And as far as my "control panel" comment I wasn't comparing it to other grids panels. I was simply saying that I loved it and it was easy for me to use and understand. It was as detailed as I needed it without being overly technical.
You know...... it's really ok for people to say positive things when it's deserved. You do not need to come back to try and argue the positive statements that I make. They are statements about my experience there in which you have no knowledge of until I tell you. Accept that this was my experience or don't but don't try and convince me that the grid was more or less to me than I have stated.
I have never tried to convince you of something that is not, what you have narrated shows that the grid has technical problems, and that is what I try to communicate so why should I convince you of anything else? you have basically said what I have also said.
Believe me, anyone who opens a grid and has paying users will certainly try to help them as much as possible, there are costs, then there are those who invest more or those who invest less, but every single dollar collected helps to support their projects, so yes, there are grids even outside OSW (not listed here for various personal reasons) where the managers are always available.
If someone said I was wrong and proved with facts the evidence of my mistakes, welcome, I will know, as I have already done, to correct myself on that.
But how do you simply trust people on some issues that need to be proven? if you yourself have had problems, how do you trust those who claim the opposite? just because you know them? technical expertise and proof with facts are different from friendship :)
i am giving directions to do live video testing following simple steps... m people just talk... they don't do facts.
have a nice day and thanks for your comments.
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Believe me, anyone who opens a grid and has paying users will certainly try to help them as much as possible, there are costs, then there are those who invest more or those who invest less, but every single dollar collected helps to support their projects, so yes, there are grids even outside OSW (not listed here for various personal reasons) where the managers are always available.
If someone said I was wrong and proved with facts the evidence of my mistakes, welcome, I will know, as I have already done, to correct myself on that.
But how do you simply trust people on some issues that need to be proven? if you yourself have had problems, how do you trust those who claim the opposite? just because you know them? technical expertise and proof with facts are different from friendship :)
i am giving directions to do live video testing following simple steps... m people just talk... they don't do facts.
have a nice day and thanks for your comments.
I agree that people should not just trust words. Everyone has a different experience. This is why I appreciated your review. But this is also why I posted my thoughts. Products and services that are public will have positive and negative reviews and the company/owner will need to learn to deal with the good and bad comments. I want to hear both sides and then choose if I want to try the product out myself.
I'm sorry that your experience was bad. But that is not the case with all users and will not be the case.
You have a nice day as well.
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I'm sorry that your experience was bad. But that is not the case with all users and will not be the case.
You have a nice day as well.
The problem with openlife review is that it should have been done in private, they choose to be negative rather then talk it out with the grid owner. Everyone has different experiences based on many factors including types of computers and internet connections. You may be grateful for the review but I find it was unprofessional and the wrong place for something like this.
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And the actual "review" that people do on all of the regions listed here is public so what is the difference? And what is the use of a review if nobody knows about it? This makes no sense to me. There is no use going to Lone in private to say these things. He knows these things already. I know he does because I have told him.
You may not like or agree with this review but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be public.
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You may not like or agree with this review but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be public.
There is a different between reviews and personal grievances. His issue with lone should be dealt with in pvt
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Mistress... you wrote yet another nonsense, since this issue has been addressed many times in other comemnts, Lone did the same towards a person with the same probnlematiche coem autism but also more severe disabilities, so you can't even appeal to that anymore! and all of you do the same, this post stems from two of my comments removed by the author of the original post and it helps people understand how a grid works, but if you don't understand it, maybe, you have a percentage of the gains?
Even Lone himself finally admitted that he was wrong to overestimate his project...so, read the comments before talking nonsense please, or maybe you are also worthy Pagane's friend, pointing fingers is not constructive, but talking about known technical activities and warning users as you already did with other grids, if you can do it anyone can do it, right?
why do you want to hide only what is inconvenient or disliked to you? is that how life works according to you? and then please stop repeating the same things over and over again you are useless and repetitive, do you realize that? Sunshine, who has useless regions in Lone's grid, even offended poor people in order to defend the land of wolves... it's absurd, you understand this don't you?
read the comments before commenting....
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Even Lone himself finally admitted that he was wrong to overestimate his project...so, read the comments before talking nonsense please, or maybe you are also worthy Pagane's friend, pointing fingers is not constructive, but talking about known technical activities and warning users as you already did with other grids, if you can do it anyone can do it, right?
why do you want to hide only what is inconvenient or disliked to you? is that how life works according to you? and then please stop repeating the same things over and over again you are useless and repetitive, do you realize that? Sunshine, who has useless regions in Lone's grid, even offended poor people in order to defend the land of wolves... it's absurd, you understand this don't you?
read the comments before commenting....
you're right, and that's exactly what I wrote (I'm glad you got the point).
but you see there are standards from which you can't escape, and as I wrote only friendly or biased people (even offensive in some cases, you only have to read some of the comments) don't see the limits.
this is not the case for you, let's be clear about that.
I'm just saying that there are some standards of quality, and it doesn't matter how much money you invest, it doesn't matter at all, if you claim to be the best you have to have these standards of quality, otherwise you are average if not below and you are overrated, and you attract people without really offering what you sell... what do you call this?
you know, as I responded to a personal message a little while ago, I give you the same example, hoping people will read it :
It's like if I buy a ferrari, put 1.2 tons of stuff in it, add 4 overflowing trailers in the back, and then charge you for the ride in my ferrari $50 per meter... obvious it will barely do 100 mph instead of 200 (for example) and obvious it will consume three times as much! That's all it is.
so I respect paying $50 a meter with a ferrari that doesn't give me good experiences, I'd rather pay $15 but with a car that gives me the right experience.
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but you see there are standards from which you can't escape, and as I wrote only friendly or biased people (even offensive in some cases, you only have to read some of the comments) don't see the limits.
this is not the case for you, let's be clear about that.
I'm just saying that there are some standards of quality, and it doesn't matter how much money you invest, it doesn't matter at all, if you claim to be the best you have to have these standards of quality, otherwise you are average if not below and you are overrated, and you attract people without really offering what you sell... what do you call this?
you know, as I responded to a personal message a little while ago, I give you the same example, hoping people will read it :
It's like if I buy a ferrari, put 1.2 tons of stuff in it, add 4 overflowing trailers in the back, and then charge you for the ride in my ferrari $50 per meter... obvious it will barely do 100 mph instead of 200 (for example) and obvious it will consume three times as much! That's all it is.
so I respect paying $50 a meter with a ferrari that doesn't give me good experiences, I'd rather pay $15 but with a car that gives me the right experience.
So here is my review/opinion (and then I will hush). I think that people know that Lone is a hell of a nice man and he is trying hard. I think people are impressed that he is an out of the box thinker who is trying new things. And he has made it publicly known that he is on the autism spectrum. All of these things should be taken into consideration. But none of them should give him a pass for any service which someone is paying for. I left there because I was paying for something that wasn't giving me what I believed was advertised. Not everyone will feel this way though. I know some good, honest people there who love it still. It works for them. And they are currently happy with the prices they pay and the service they get.
I do not like Coke (the soda). I will not buy it and I will not drink it. It is not worth a penny to me. This doesn't mean that someone else won't be willing to put out money to drink 4 cans a day.
Thank you for the thoughtful debate.
We seem to be fighting for the last word so I will let you have it now :P lol
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I do not like Coke (the soda). I will not buy it and I will not drink it. It is not worth a penny to me. This doesn't mean that someone else won't be willing to put out money to drink 4 cans a day.
Thank you for the thoughtful debate.
We seem to be fighting for the last word so I will let you have it now :P lol
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hehehe, I just responded to Lone in a comment where he says he will introduce a low-cost region. Go read it, and you will understand that I did not wage war to destroy Wolf, I just expressed my honest thought derived from a kind comment (no offense towards lone, that's why the agent who is offending me has little credibility).
it is true that in some comments I got very annoyed, why call me an idiot and support absurd costs.... well I defend myself no? you would do it too.
but basically nothing wrong with this post, nothing different than in other posts on other grids.
i don't question lone's dedication to his grid, any grid owner does the same, the problem is related to price/quality.
read the comment where lone introduces a low cost region, i find it honest and in line with the quality and prices offered by other grids.
good day.
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it is true that in some comments I got very annoyed, why call me an idiot and support absurd costs.... well I defend myself no? you would do it too.
but basically nothing wrong with this post, nothing different than in other posts on other grids.
i don't question lone's dedication to his grid, any grid owner does the same, the problem is related to price/quality.
read the comment where lone introduces a low cost region, i find it honest and in line with the quality and prices offered by other grids.
good day.
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you wrote the same moreover offensive nonsense as others.
you only know how to offend and stick to untrue things, like my alternate account, focus on the post.
I invite you to do as I have invited other users, a live Live where you follow these steps by showing them live without cheating :
Clear the viewer cache, enter the grid welcome, open the map and perform teleports, let's see how well these 100 regions work by spending your 70$ (seems to me this is the cost for 100 regions right?).
as for the profile I have already answered extensively and I am not an alt of anyone, you are ridiculous and repetitive, while for the insults, well, it fully describes who you are, I would add that maybe just those like you have pulled crap on other grids in the past, and now they are champions of the "good person".
As you have warned for other mis embra grids fair warning for this one too or not?
Facts not small talk...
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you only know how to offend and stick to untrue things, like my alternate account, focus on the post.
I invite you to do as I have invited other users, a live Live where you follow these steps by showing them live without cheating :
Clear the viewer cache, enter the grid welcome, open the map and perform teleports, let's see how well these 100 regions work by spending your 70$ (seems to me this is the cost for 100 regions right?).
as for the profile I have already answered extensively and I am not an alt of anyone, you are ridiculous and repetitive, while for the insults, well, it fully describes who you are, I would add that maybe just those like you have pulled crap on other grids in the past, and now they are champions of the "good person".
As you have warned for other mis embra grids fair warning for this one too or not?
Facts not small talk...
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I repeat some concepts :
as I told him, it only takes 10 gullible people, who pay that high dollar amount to get $500--if you can get to 20 you have cashed in $1000 selling NOTHING.
And once people are in there, then they will have a hard time getting their work out.
As you can read, my two comments are polite, snza offend him (unlike what you do with me now), but the price is not worth what he offers.
in this place the same was done with other grids, in fact it was done worse, you warned people that that grid was a place to throw money, for example it happened with Avitron and others right? and this simple technical post is shameful?
(p.s. i hate avitron let's be clear about this)
then we can only warn a certain type of grid? there is a list of grids to challenge and warn people about, and a white list instead of untouchable grids? let me understand... I don't know...
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as I told him, it only takes 10 gullible people, who pay that high dollar amount to get $500--if you can get to 20 you have cashed in $1000 selling NOTHING.
And once people are in there, then they will have a hard time getting their work out.
As you can read, my two comments are polite, snza offend him (unlike what you do with me now), but the price is not worth what he offers.
in this place the same was done with other grids, in fact it was done worse, you warned people that that grid was a place to throw money, for example it happened with Avitron and others right? and this simple technical post is shameful?
(p.s. i hate avitron let's be clear about this)
then we can only warn a certain type of grid? there is a list of grids to challenge and warn people about, and a white list instead of untouchable grids? let me understand... I don't know...
I think you are underestimating how much it costs to run a grid the size of Wolf Territories. This is not some single server say in someone's back room. Lone has a significant investment in servers in data centres in various locations, along with specialist performance services that I know from experience are not inexpensive.
As for not being able to take your stuff out - that is simply not true. I recently decided to leave Wolf Terrirories - my reasons are my own. However Lone was understanding and at no point rude or anything like that. I backed up and took OARs of my regions - and I have them running again on my own little grid. There was never any question about who owned my content. Never any issue with taking backups. (IAR backups are another story but there are very good reasons to restrict those even just based on logistics: they can take a LONG time and use a LOT of asset server resources to generate).
Some genuinly find Wolf Territories to be a high performance grid - others less so. I think that is probably the case with most grids.
If I were to point ANY critisism at the grid at all - it would be that it has perhaps become a victim of its success. In recent months there has been a large influx to the grid - and that has had a knock on effect on performance. However Lone IS working hard to make sure the grid works well for everyone.
Ultimately - like any grid - I would say try it - and if it doesn't work for you - then look somewhere else. There is really no need to "slag it off".
Last thoughts: The community in Wolf Territories is really pretty good. I DID decide to leave and go back to my own grid (its much easier for a very small grid to have decent performance), but due to the support and community there I resisted for some time. Have I agreed with everything Lone has done? No, of course not! But I will say he has - and continues - to try hard for his users.
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As for not being able to take your stuff out - that is simply not true. I recently decided to leave Wolf Terrirories - my reasons are my own. However Lone was understanding and at no point rude or anything like that. I backed up and took OARs of my regions - and I have them running again on my own little grid. There was never any question about who owned my content. Never any issue with taking backups. (IAR backups are another story but there are very good reasons to restrict those even just based on logistics: they can take a LONG time and use a LOT of asset server resources to generate).
Some genuinly find Wolf Territories to be a high performance grid - others less so. I think that is probably the case with most grids.
If I were to point ANY critisism at the grid at all - it would be that it has perhaps become a victim of its success. In recent months there has been a large influx to the grid - and that has had a knock on effect on performance. However Lone IS working hard to make sure the grid works well for everyone.
Ultimately - like any grid - I would say try it - and if it doesn't work for you - then look somewhere else. There is really no need to "slag it off".
Last thoughts: The community in Wolf Territories is really pretty good. I DID decide to leave and go back to my own grid (its much easier for a very small grid to have decent performance), but due to the support and community there I resisted for some time. Have I agreed with everything Lone has done? No, of course not! But I will say he has - and continues - to try hard for his users.
as I wrote, maybe you didn't read, he has virtual servers that reduce performance, he shows them in his youtube videos, he doesn't have physical and dedicated servers like other grids.
it doesn't impota how much it costs for him, his product is slow and shoddy for $50 per month base for one region (yes they are var, but they are still single regions as structure and very heavy).
how much do you think Linden Lab spends on his (non-virtual) servers each month? yet the basic premium starts at 5$ if I'm not mistaken right? so he can spend as much as he wants, but to venture these costs by passing off his network as the best, is ridiculous, there are grids that do better and have lower costs, try it yourself, some of them are not even listed here anymore.
Lone's reminds me of Avitron's little game of "we are the best."
as far as taking things out, he is telling people that by spending $50 they will have 1.2 million prims, and that attracts them, especially those who do not have full technical expertise, if you concentrate 50,000 prims in a space of size 256x256 in that immense var that wolf territory offers you, and you do not find a grid where you can place via the "displacement" command just that slice of land with 50. 000 allocated prims that you need, how many additional prims do you have to buy if that grid of your interest offers them? and how many regions do you need to do at least half as much work as you built in Wolf Territories? do you see what I mean?
so if you don't fill (as i said) your region with 1.2million prims you are still wasting your money! it is a way to make money and attract people, nothing more, unfair and unfair.
not everyone knows how to properly set up an OAR with the "displacement" command to center a place of interest from a larger region, and not everyone can offer you that number of prims, you'll have to spend more anyway.
so for the average, non-technically advanced user, it's always going to be more complicated, and it's only fair that people know this.
wolf territories is a grid that has absolutely no high performance, and neither are its virtual servers, visit other grids not listed here for example (so we are not biased) and you will see the difference... or visit the ones listed here and you will see that Lone's grid is becoming overrated compared to many others, it does not offer for example, and as I have already explained, better performance than DreamGrid in a home computer.
it will NEVER work well that grid because of the way it is structured, we have already said that, a lot depends on the viewers as well, and loading that vast concatenation of territories will always give problems (if you want to talk more in depth technically I am at your disposal... but please read other comments well first).
it strives like any grid operator strives to make users and try to have a minimum of revenue, nothing special, just, it doesn't have to sell for gold what gold is not! :)
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it doesn't impota how much it costs for him, his product is slow and shoddy for $50 per month base for one region (yes they are var, but they are still single regions as structure and very heavy).
how much do you think Linden Lab spends on his (non-virtual) servers each month? yet the basic premium starts at 5$ if I'm not mistaken right? so he can spend as much as he wants, but to venture these costs by passing off his network as the best, is ridiculous, there are grids that do better and have lower costs, try it yourself, some of them are not even listed here anymore.
Lone's reminds me of Avitron's little game of "we are the best."
as far as taking things out, he is telling people that by spending $50 they will have 1.2 million prims, and that attracts them, especially those who do not have full technical expertise, if you concentrate 50,000 prims in a space of size 256x256 in that immense var that wolf territory offers you, and you do not find a grid where you can place via the "displacement" command just that slice of land with 50. 000 allocated prims that you need, how many additional prims do you have to buy if that grid of your interest offers them? and how many regions do you need to do at least half as much work as you built in Wolf Territories? do you see what I mean?
so if you don't fill (as i said) your region with 1.2million prims you are still wasting your money! it is a way to make money and attract people, nothing more, unfair and unfair.
not everyone knows how to properly set up an OAR with the "displacement" command to center a place of interest from a larger region, and not everyone can offer you that number of prims, you'll have to spend more anyway.
so for the average, non-technically advanced user, it's always going to be more complicated, and it's only fair that people know this.
wolf territories is a grid that has absolutely no high performance, and neither are its virtual servers, visit other grids not listed here for example (so we are not biased) and you will see the difference... or visit the ones listed here and you will see that Lone's grid is becoming overrated compared to many others, it does not offer for example, and as I have already explained, better performance than DreamGrid in a home computer.
it will NEVER work well that grid because of the way it is structured, we have already said that, a lot depends on the viewers as well, and loading that vast concatenation of territories will always give problems (if you want to talk more in depth technically I am at your disposal... but please read other comments well first).
it strives like any grid operator strives to make users and try to have a minimum of revenue, nothing special, just, it doesn't have to sell for gold what gold is not! :)
Unfortunately you are mistaken.
Yes, Lone has started using some high performance droplets for some of his regions. Yes they are more expensive - but he only uses these for SOME of his regions. They can only run around 4 regions per droplet.
I have had a lot of experience with Digital Ocean droplets in the past and they are high performance.
He also uses several physical servers running ProxMox and yes - runs virtual machines on these. This is VERY common - and virtualisation is used in just about EVERY large or medium enterprise and even many small enterprises. The performance hit with using a virtual machine is negligable providing it's not overloaded.
Comparing SL premium to region prices on Wolf Territories is like comparing apples and oranges - they are not simiar at all. If you want to make comparisons - compare free SL basic SL account to Wolf's free account. Or compaire SL's region pricing to Wolf's region pricing. Do not compare SL's premium account (with only a 512m plot) to Wolf's 4x4 region pricing - thats ludicrous.
Yes, we all know Lone advertises his regions as 1.2 million prims. We also know that noone will ever do that. We also all know that even while he may not restict them - the region would crawl to a halt long before it got to 1.2 million prims. I have actually personally pointed that out to him I would and have suggested he changes that claim - as I do agree it is misleading. However, as noone will ever do that - the chances of someone not being able to restore the region elsewhere due to it is minimal at best. As for having to offeset the region to be able to restore part of it on a standard region size - I think that point is extreme. You could make that same argument with any grid that has 4x4 regions. Should varregions be banned or something?
Ultimately though - this response was about your claim he uses virtual servers and has no physical servers. I know this is incorrect - I know he has physical servers. I know he uses these physical servers to run virtual servers which is what most organisations do. I know the performance impact of this is very small unless the physical servers are overloaded. I know he also uses virtual servers (Digital Ocean Droplets) which are high performance.
Please do not claim that opensim runs slowly on well provisioned virtual servers. It runs just fine. Source: 30+ years as an IT professional dealing with Linux system administration, ProxMox andVMWare virtualisation, system and network management.
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Yes, Lone has started using some high performance droplets for some of his regions. Yes they are more expensive - but he only uses these for SOME of his regions. They can only run around 4 regions per droplet.
I have had a lot of experience with Digital Ocean droplets in the past and they are high performance.
He also uses several physical servers running ProxMox and yes - runs virtual machines on these. This is VERY common - and virtualisation is used in just about EVERY large or medium enterprise and even many small enterprises. The performance hit with using a virtual machine is negligable providing it's not overloaded.
Comparing SL premium to region prices on Wolf Territories is like comparing apples and oranges - they are not simiar at all. If you want to make comparisons - compare free SL basic SL account to Wolf's free account. Or compaire SL's region pricing to Wolf's region pricing. Do not compare SL's premium account (with only a 512m plot) to Wolf's 4x4 region pricing - thats ludicrous.
Yes, we all know Lone advertises his regions as 1.2 million prims. We also know that noone will ever do that. We also all know that even while he may not restict them - the region would crawl to a halt long before it got to 1.2 million prims. I have actually personally pointed that out to him I would and have suggested he changes that claim - as I do agree it is misleading. However, as noone will ever do that - the chances of someone not being able to restore the region elsewhere due to it is minimal at best. As for having to offeset the region to be able to restore part of it on a standard region size - I think that point is extreme. You could make that same argument with any grid that has 4x4 regions. Should varregions be banned or something?
Ultimately though - this response was about your claim he uses virtual servers and has no physical servers. I know this is incorrect - I know he has physical servers. I know he uses these physical servers to run virtual servers which is what most organisations do. I know the performance impact of this is very small unless the physical servers are overloaded. I know he also uses virtual servers (Digital Ocean Droplets) which are high performance.
Please do not claim that opensim runs slowly on well provisioned virtual servers. It runs just fine. Source: 30+ years as an IT professional dealing with Linux system administration, ProxMox andVMWare virtualisation, system and network management.
Instead, you didn't read the comments as I asked.
I clearly said that the region of Lunaria for example is the only one where there are few problems...precisely because of a question of priority, so you are writing what I have already SAID before, but you have not taken up the invitation to read the comments.
I will be brief :
you said that virtual servers are with minimal performance drop if not overloaded, well that is exactly what happens in the wolf grid, everything, as I told you, is very heavy and overloaded, and to that you have to add the management of theos cenario by the viewers considering an average PC, so nothing is optimized for that in that grid.
In addition, sui amounts of memory have to be shared for each virtual macchian which creates, given the thoughtfulness of the scenarios, a kind of funnel effect, alsothe grid is ONE on the main machine and shared on the virtual machines, these are not just basic sites or datacenters, but overflowing regions...that makes a difference.
to the rest, I answer you with the SL example but not only, the same operation applies for example to Roblox or Minecraft...
It is very comparable the concept Costs/Gains/Offers between SL and wolf's spire, since he offers according to him the best opensimulator soilution, companies offer affordable costs to make users and come back thanks to the number of users of the expenses and then generate profit with the quantity, rented servers sdono very expensive and that is why a SL region on AWS dedicated server has higher costs.
please read the other comments well.
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I clearly said that the region of Lunaria for example is the only one where there are few problems...precisely because of a question of priority, so you are writing what I have already SAID before, but you have not taken up the invitation to read the comments.
I will be brief :
you said that virtual servers are with minimal performance drop if not overloaded, well that is exactly what happens in the wolf grid, everything, as I told you, is very heavy and overloaded, and to that you have to add the management of theos cenario by the viewers considering an average PC, so nothing is optimized for that in that grid.
In addition, sui amounts of memory have to be shared for each virtual macchian which creates, given the thoughtfulness of the scenarios, a kind of funnel effect, alsothe grid is ONE on the main machine and shared on the virtual machines, these are not just basic sites or datacenters, but overflowing regions...that makes a difference.
to the rest, I answer you with the SL example but not only, the same operation applies for example to Roblox or Minecraft...
It is very comparable the concept Costs/Gains/Offers between SL and wolf's spire, since he offers according to him the best opensimulator soilution, companies offer affordable costs to make users and come back thanks to the number of users of the expenses and then generate profit with the quantity, rented servers sdono very expensive and that is why a SL region on AWS dedicated server has higher costs.
please read the other comments well.
I have read your comments well - and while I may not have addressed every one in every one of your posts - you fill your complaints with rhetoric that weakens any argument you make.
Ultimately - if you think the grid is low performance - dont go there. If you think the region prices are too high - dont buy them. I don't go into a store and start shouting that they are charging too much... I leave that store and go to another with lower prices. There really is no need to make a scene.
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Ultimately - if you think the grid is low performance - dont go there. If you think the region prices are too high - dont buy them. I don't go into a store and start shouting that they are charging too much... I leave that store and go to another with lower prices. There really is no need to make a scene.
I have to answer you here since the maximum level has been reached.
I did not attack Lone, reread well the comments both of the post and others, in fact I palmed quietly with him and expressed compliments and encouragement for his new offering in line with opensimulator in my opinion and for what are the performances offered.
it is not rhetoric, it is FACTS.
he may have the best VPS in the world, but the facts sayc that the performance is SLOW and poor.
I repeat, warnings have passed here for other grids asking for excessive money, why is Lone exempt from this?
and why has he in the past, as I learned yesterday, attacked another autustic person stating falsehood about his project?
but where do you see the rhetoric? open a VPS server then we'll talk, run 10 var 16*16 regions, then we'll talk again :)
now I say goodbye :)
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I did not attack Lone, reread well the comments both of the post and others, in fact I palmed quietly with him and expressed compliments and encouragement for his new offering in line with opensimulator in my opinion and for what are the performances offered.
it is not rhetoric, it is FACTS.
he may have the best VPS in the world, but the facts sayc that the performance is SLOW and poor.
I repeat, warnings have passed here for other grids asking for excessive money, why is Lone exempt from this?
and why has he in the past, as I learned yesterday, attacked another autustic person stating falsehood about his project?
but where do you see the rhetoric? open a VPS server then we'll talk, run 10 var 16*16 regions, then we'll talk again :)
now I say goodbye :)
this is a trivial answer, forgive me but of technical you have nothing, I have responded to your comments with absolute validity, both regarding virtual servers (I gave you the example of contabo, open us a grid you who think you are an expert and sure that vps do not have low performance, and we are talking about a company that lives on this... ) and I have not collapsed any of my statements, without rhetoric, which instead you now use becoming, forgive me for repeating it, trivial in the comment, since you are not enriching the technical discussion you are just saying don't say anything and that's it. and I repeat to you as I said to others, it is obvious that I am not going to go into the wolf grid, but it is only fair that people know that they spend money for nothing, because he did the same from what I understand with other users, and then because here is thing that has already happened to help users understand how not to throw money for example in avitron!
so where do you see the rhetoric?
maybe i should call you "professor"... :)
professor, I won't answer you further, I'm sorry I told you what I think and what are the technical facts (just reread the comments...) :)
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so where do you see the rhetoric?
maybe i should call you "professor"... :)
professor, I won't answer you further, I'm sorry I told you what I think and what are the technical facts (just reread the comments...) :)
as far as virtual servers are concerned, try putting in contabo's VPS MAX servers (the maximum offer seems to me to be $40/month) a grid with 20 full regions... then we'll talk.
and anyway in facts, lone wolf's grid doesn't work because of the costs required, you can say what you want, but it has excessive costs.
;)
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and anyway in facts, lone wolf's grid doesn't work because of the costs required, you can say what you want, but it has excessive costs.
;)
I'm not arguing about costs. His prices are what they are. Either take them or not. I think the expression is "vote with your feet".
However - you need to look more at their Bare Metal prices as those are more relevant and he has several bare metal servers.
My comments here are more about your rhetoric - and yes - you do keep spouting it. You dress up guesswork and present them as facts. I do not think this needs to be an attack on Lone just because you dont like his prices.
Your whole argument may have weight - at least more weight if it didnt just come across as sour grapes.
And just replying to your other sub-thread that I cant as it's max level now - you can call me whatever you like - I really don't care. I gave a reasoned and polite response to you - if you want to act like a child about it then please - be my guest.
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However - you need to look more at their Bare Metal prices as those are more relevant and he has several bare metal servers.
My comments here are more about your rhetoric - and yes - you do keep spouting it. You dress up guesswork and present them as facts. I do not think this needs to be an attack on Lone just because you dont like his prices.
Your whole argument may have weight - at least more weight if it didnt just come across as sour grapes.
And just replying to your other sub-thread that I cant as it's max level now - you can call me whatever you like - I really don't care. I gave a reasoned and polite response to you - if you want to act like a child about it then please - be my guest.
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I'm sorry you're autistic, I'm sorry I don't know that, I just gently pointed out to you, as you did to others, that there are technical limitations and I think it's fair for the cost of your regions, to point them out and share it with people, I thought I was banned, I thought wrong and for that I apologize.
But I assure you two things :
the first is that I only have this profile, I am nobody else, you can ask the site manager if you want.
the second thing is that anyway as you read from the comments I made to you yesterday, and posted today, however even if your grid is technically overrated, I have been kind to you and have repeatedly responded respecting your work.
but let's face it, it's like if I have cancer, unfortunately, and I am well liked, and just because I have cancer no one answers me the truth, and so I sell material by passing it off as professional at high cost, when maybe the same is actually worth $20. you know what I mean?
The advice I give you, is that no one is exempt from technical problems, lower the price, then yes your grid is worth the cost.
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But I assure you two things :
the first is that I only have this profile, I am nobody else, you can ask the site manager if you want.
the second thing is that anyway as you read from the comments I made to you yesterday, and posted today, however even if your grid is technically overrated, I have been kind to you and have repeatedly responded respecting your work.
but let's face it, it's like if I have cancer, unfortunately, and I am well liked, and just because I have cancer no one answers me the truth, and so I sell material by passing it off as professional at high cost, when maybe the same is actually worth $20. you know what I mean?
The advice I give you, is that no one is exempt from technical problems, lower the price, then yes your grid is worth the cost.
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you answer yourself because you deserve answer....
The fact that lone is autistic, in the videos I've seen I haven't heard the mention of it, this I regret in part.
I am sorry in part because anyway I responded politely in the comments from as you can read, still complimenting him on his grid but pointing out in the comments to his post that something is not working. I was honest and kind.
his autistic state does not give him the right anyway to make money on poor people or those who believe they have purchased an IMMENSIVE package, the best on the Opensimulator platform, this is called FRAUD or TRUFFLE.
as I told him, it only takes 10 gullible people, who pay that high dollar amount to get $500--if you can get to 20 you have cashed in $1000 selling NOTHING.
And once people are in there, then they will have a hard time getting their work out.
Because you know very well, and you know it because in the group you said it publicly inside the wolf grid, that teleports were not working. but not only teleports, the problems in the wolf territories are also others, and people have to know what they are paying, if I comment on one of his posts as he does with others, I don't see anything wrong with it.
It is invevce fair to warn the community, and maybe make it clear that you are complicit in it with the speech you made. Do you remember well how many times you complained, or should we share some of your statements from the group chat? (so not private but read by other users)
As you can read, my two comments are polite, snza offend him (unlike what you do with me now), but the price is not worth what he offers.
and those who should be ashamed are you and people like you who incite and support these attitudes by still encouraging them, so maybe to reach in defiance of other honest platforms, 30 people paying for NOTHING by making $1,500 a month for a person who is selling something non-functional for those amounts demanded, and all this, autism or no autism, is the truly shameful thing! you support something that is technically overvalued, and I repeat it is right to make it clear or express the thought, by hiding it instead you are complicit, you have done the same for other grids by warning publicly that that grid is dangerous to invest money, why should Lone be exempt from these warnings?
if it worked like SL, or like really well structured grids, then I would understand, but here you are selling for better what is nothing better!
if you lovingly do this, just because you are autistic, at least don't advertise it as the best, because you are complicit in shameful harm true people who don't fully understand the true technical value of a platform.
so lunaria, shame on you and all those who commented like you!
if the post is not in private it is as i have already explained, because mr. lone, he still commented publicly others and because in my comments there are technical notes that you know well to be true, that you deny by taken part and that everyone can observe (many have in fact confirmed), and it serves to make people understand that that 50$ is money wasted, you are not in second life there, you are in a place below average and overvalued that makes you pay gold for something that gold is not, and you are complicit in that, SHAME ON YOU!
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The fact that lone is autistic, in the videos I've seen I haven't heard the mention of it, this I regret in part.
I am sorry in part because anyway I responded politely in the comments from as you can read, still complimenting him on his grid but pointing out in the comments to his post that something is not working. I was honest and kind.
his autistic state does not give him the right anyway to make money on poor people or those who believe they have purchased an IMMENSIVE package, the best on the Opensimulator platform, this is called FRAUD or TRUFFLE.
as I told him, it only takes 10 gullible people, who pay that high dollar amount to get $500--if you can get to 20 you have cashed in $1000 selling NOTHING.
And once people are in there, then they will have a hard time getting their work out.
Because you know very well, and you know it because in the group you said it publicly inside the wolf grid, that teleports were not working. but not only teleports, the problems in the wolf territories are also others, and people have to know what they are paying, if I comment on one of his posts as he does with others, I don't see anything wrong with it.
It is invevce fair to warn the community, and maybe make it clear that you are complicit in it with the speech you made. Do you remember well how many times you complained, or should we share some of your statements from the group chat? (so not private but read by other users)
As you can read, my two comments are polite, snza offend him (unlike what you do with me now), but the price is not worth what he offers.
and those who should be ashamed are you and people like you who incite and support these attitudes by still encouraging them, so maybe to reach in defiance of other honest platforms, 30 people paying for NOTHING by making $1,500 a month for a person who is selling something non-functional for those amounts demanded, and all this, autism or no autism, is the truly shameful thing! you support something that is technically overvalued, and I repeat it is right to make it clear or express the thought, by hiding it instead you are complicit, you have done the same for other grids by warning publicly that that grid is dangerous to invest money, why should Lone be exempt from these warnings?
if it worked like SL, or like really well structured grids, then I would understand, but here you are selling for better what is nothing better!
if you lovingly do this, just because you are autistic, at least don't advertise it as the best, because you are complicit in shameful harm true people who don't fully understand the true technical value of a platform.
so lunaria, shame on you and all those who commented like you!
if the post is not in private it is as i have already explained, because mr. lone, he still commented publicly others and because in my comments there are technical notes that you know well to be true, that you deny by taken part and that everyone can observe (many have in fact confirmed), and it serves to make people understand that that 50$ is money wasted, you are not in second life there, you are in a place below average and overvalued that makes you pay gold for something that gold is not, and you are complicit in that, SHAME ON YOU!