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This is really a nice post; it speaks a lot of truths.

But I also see some people writing comments full of love, but in reality, they are not truthful. These individuals have had conflicts with their respective communities or caused serious problems in some grids, and they don't stop generating disputes. They continually try to enter places from which they have been banned by using VPNs and MAC addresses generated by the usual viewers. They create at least 3-5 avatars on OSGrid every month, convinced they will go unnoticed, but they always belong to the same person. When they manage to get into that grid, but only because they are allowed to and not because they are clever, they spread hatred and resentment because they are there to cause fights and arguments. If this is their tendency, they will do the same here, making multiple accounts. However, with their main accounts, they appear friendly, but in reality, their constant creation of drama is evident.

In short, if the post is written by a good person, some comments are written by an ambiguous character who appears one way but is actually something else, and there are traces here too to prove it.

This type of person, everything they criticize in this post is exactly what they do.

And this is the truth, we all know it.
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you have a valid point, some people want this but there constantly finding things to pick at. As a grid owner i have to learn to pick my battles now, sometimes its better to stay neutral but if i cant, offer advice on what could have been done better. Do i agree that some bans are unnecessary, absolutely! we all have to be willing to communicate. However some things can be justified when it gets to far like threats and whatnot.
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You are talking to a person named Ankh, who was banned from several grids after multiple warnings because she exported, forced, and "distributed" content from creators like Arkaham or R-Lion, for example. These creators explicitly ask NOT to redistribute their content but to use it only for personal purposes (regardless of whether it is original content or imported from SL, it’s about respecting people). So, you are unnecessarily talking to someone who first attacked those who copy, then invented absurd things about the grid that banned her, and whose behavior risked getting the entire community, including her friends, banned (these friends also don't want problems and requested the ban in their regions). While badmouthing the grid that hosted her FOR FREE in this place, she tries almost every day to enter with multiple accounts from different grids. For example, now she tried with this Ankh.Lionheart@homelandz.opensim.fun:8802, continuously changing MAC addresses (so she doesn’t seem so incapable of using copybot).

Additionally, she had and still has regions in OSGrid, a grid she owned but claimed belonged to her brother—lies upon lies. This is also demonstrated by the fact that she wants to appear as someone who respects creators, but in reality, she called the entire Opensimulator community thieves, yet her avatar is a copybotted avatar and not a Ruth, and she praises those who import content from SL (look at the latest post about the hair store).

There is a deep inconsistency because if I hate a grid or things copied from SL, I wouldn’t go to that grid every day or every week, and I wouldn’t use copybotted items... just think about this to understand who this person named Ankh really is. Essentially, this Ankh has violated the last sentence of this post which says, "The GOD Mode: if you use it well you are my friend, if you use it badly you will be banned..."

Having said this, I will not respond to any more useless provocations like this person often loves to do. I can only say that anyone who imports objects should be respected in their decisions. If a person imports objects and doesn't want them redistributed, it should not be done. If a person imports objects and offers them full perm, then fine, anything goes.

To our friend Creator who created this post, I say: Unfortunately, in OS, it is difficult to predict where your creations will end up, because there is a lot of anarchy everywhere, and it is difficult to enforce all the rules. One way would be to disable GOD mode, but without GOD mode, grids that are already lacking users would have even fewer... That's all.
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And so it was that Openlife unleashed itself :D

Anyway, Marianna's content is among the most beautiful in OS, and it is carefully made, well-realized, and original, or at least it respects the licenses that come with it :)

Regarding your speech, Open, let it go; it's not even worth considering. Every time she tries or manages to get in, we will find a way to remove her again, but please don't respond anymore and ignore it; it's not of our interest.

Unfortunately, to stay in line with the original post, it is not uncommon to find objects in SL coming from OS, as well as scripts, and it is a sad thing because those who import from SL don't profit, while those who import in the opposite direction, from OS to SL, often profit from others' work, which is wrong.
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Thank you I appreciate that you like my jewelry.
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@Marianna Sorry for the barking of these two little gentlemen who say what they want when they see themselves disappearing...

Thanks for all your information, I will probably need it one day, I'm copying all that :-)
But I don't understand why you say that I confuse Full Perm with God Mod, I was only giving an example for which it is totally useless to use the god mod since we can find the full perm version of the same object somewhere on OS

Anyway, given the way OS works I share the opinion that I read above to say that flags are useless in OS as soon as we come across someone who wants to change them
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Yes, then we are saying the same thing if the item is already full perm there is no need to God Mod it, I know people say it is a tool as quoted from this very post " When an avatar leaves a grid or can't be reached to fix permissions on an item they've acquired from a reseller, God Mode makes the impossible, possible" I hear that from many people but still without permission I don't do that. That is a choice for me personally.
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Woof Woof Marianna :)

We bark so much that she has now made another avatar on OSGrid (Lilith Earst @ http://hg.osgrid.org:80/) with another island (Lilith's Paradise) and has tried to access again... she must really love us, I think.

Well, now as a good little pup, I'm going to take a walk and then I'll sleep.

Woof Woof. ♥
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FreshVirtualWorld's response was very helpful for the conversation loool actually, his response unfortunately shows that some people just don't engage their thinking and react badly without specific reasons and in a stupid way. For example, if Europe makes a specific law for metaverses, Opensimulator will fall under it, but Fresh demonstrates how low the intellectual level of some people is lol.
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Some people are just sensitive about certain subject matter. Has nothing to do with their level of intelligence, just what triggers them emotionally.
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I can understand people's sensitivity, but I don't think his comment and reaction are justified.

The post is quite clear, and there are valid comments and responses, even emotionally. The concern is legitimate, and in the post, there are a series of questions. What does blocking someone have to do with this post? He should have expressed his thoughts, but instead, he clearly stated, 'SL is SL, OS is OS, I'll block anyone who talks about SL in this place, you're the first!' I believe it has little to do with his 'noble' mood; it's just a silly comment since the topic of any new laws to regulate the metaverses would apply to all of us who inhabit them.
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In addition, he behaves even more foolishly and questionably by unblocking blocked individuals to respond and then blocking them again (hahaha, amusing but ridiculous). This behavior reflects on the quality of actions of this person, which is why his comments will be deleted, always.
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It's the result of cancel culture. My last name is aptly named based on how many times I was for over 25+ years of internet experience.I see Fresh's point though that this website should be focused on OpenSim and not toxic SecondLife which is just ONE GRID, though the one that started it all and most famous. I personally indulge in payback and block woketards proactively since it was done to me for years.

However I do think you are partly right OpenLife about fresh's reaction being a bit overboard and hasty. But everyone wanted cancel culture and got it, now they are against it?

One thing I am sick of in life is saying "I told you so" so many freaking times. But alas, it applies again.
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I asked a question, and you provided an answer; this is the right way to interact. Thank you for your responses.

My fear is that specific laws regarding metaverses and their control will also affect OS, obviously, and all open, even domestic, grids.
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Possibly. But that makes a large assumption that many of the claims made in the original Medium article are/were true. Personally, I think the fact that the article was pulled and written under a pen name have to make many of the allegations questionable. I think it was hit job by someone who had an axe to grind, but that is just my opinion. Also, many of the allegations would be a violation of Linden's ever-growing "terms of service" but not much of a legal issue. At worst, Second Life gets one more self-inflicted PR blackeye, which may ultimately benefit OS and other grids. Also, I feel like the decentralized way most of OS functions inoculates it from a lot of what LL may be (or may NOT be) staring at. I think that is a good thing.
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AvatarLife... what you're saying is pure advertising; illegitimately, you're promoting on HG a grid that is not part of the Hypergrid, so you shouldn't be here, and I hope the site owner will address the requests and remove your region.

Furthermore, what you're saying is blatantly FALSE because, just like Avitron, you have collected free content from all over Opensimulator. From OSGRID, you have Agorà avatars, content from SoulGrid, and many other grids, so what are you working hard on? On taking content for profit because uploads and much more are paid, just like it was in Avitron, and part of the team is the same.

So the fact that you're writing to advertise is absurd...

In many places (including some YouTube videos), you have been compared to Avitron, and you are like Avitron in every way; after all, at least one staff member is the same.

Furthermore, it is definitely ILLEGAL to promote gambling in that way; if not, where are the references to companies and the necessary permits and licenses as the law requires? Where are the requests related to profit taxation?

It's very likely that you're just deceiving and exploiting the Opensimulator community, and what you have is found everywhere because it comes from Opensimulator, and I repeat, there are functional and magnificent casinos like Wolf Territories', but not only.

So your comments just for advertising don't hold, you are just as fraudulent as Avitron.
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The poker is served! ghghghghghghg ahhh Luna Lunaria... Thank you for the clarification, Fred.
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I think it's an interesting thing to understand how it works :)
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Can you show us content with a usage license that allows you to resell the item you obtain for free or for payment?
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Here's a listing: https://www.kitely.com/market/product/50078225/Venus-de-Mi... here's the source file: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1892710 and here's the license: https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

How interesting that I got an email a little while ago from Ilan at Kitely that someone complained about one of my listings as not having the right license. Instead of referring to the license website I noted on the listing for the item, they presented a different 3d model website with a different license and told him I had no right to sell it. I simply pointed Ilan back to the listing and he was fine. That being said, there is no need for me to answer any more of your questions.
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Of course, I don't think there's a need to respond," Fred jumped in, who knows a lot about licenses and items usable in various contexts while respecting their content... So, forgive me, but I'll say, "there's no need for me to respond here, Fred already did, and I think he covered everything..." Especially since you've shown a license regarding the many contents that YOU PROBABLY CAN'T RESALE and on which YOU CAN'T PROFIT, but you still do it anyway. Honesty, Lunaria, if you want to appear "healthy," at least try to be HONEST. :)
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Of all this, I understood one thing for sure: Luna, a very skilled builder, sells items that simply rotate textures she found on the internet, which anyone could take for FREE, apply a script to, and make them rotate similarly.

Now I wonder, if I were to take the same texture from the internet for free, would you accuse me of stealing your texture?

And then, the usual discussion that also happens in SL, do these textures you take have a license for personal use or can you "resell" them and make a profit? Because many builders who accuse others of copybotting in SL actually sell 3D models that they couldn't sell, as the model's usage license is personal (if free) or goes up to 3 thousand dollars for resale (with a percentage going to the original creator). What do you do, Luna? Do you accuse me of copying the texture?

Do you have a license to sell a simple rotating texture for 250L$/G$ or something else? I'm asking out of genuine curiosity :)
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And in what context would these new features be useful? (p.s. The image shows a script that does not make calls to these functionalities)
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Why does he engage in covert advertising, even if you don't agree with me, I respect your way of thinking, you've had evidence of that in other contexts, so I believe you understand what I mean.

Simply put, continuously and indirectly advertising Boam and his service is harmful to the community or it's not correct to do it that way.

For example, Lunaria loves the "Wolf Territories grid" and always speaks highly of it, but only if the context requires it, and she still advertises her store. However, if you look at this person's profile timeline, unless they have removed some past posts, they clearly advertise and then move on to do 'covert' advertising, and this doesn't sit well with me. It would be more correct if she said, 'I am a sales agent for Boam's services.' XD

Some time ago, I addressed the issue of the high costs of some services defined as high quality, while they were not (at that time, today I believe the quality/price ratio is average), and I received many private messages agreeing with me from people who had paid or were still paying for a service that was actually poor. All that advertising was excessive like the costs because not everything worked well in the virtual world; rez times were slow, and teleports didn't work (this I don't know now). So the advertising of these people was actually a trap to raise funds regularly (by renting regions) but selling something that wasn't as presented.

Remember that here, opposers always comment, but few brave ones comment publicly. Others prefer to write in private and confirm, and I certainly won't betray their trust. But not all those who think like you expose themselves, perhaps because they have a grid, or perhaps because they don't want to expose themselves to not see the problems, because they sing, DJ, or for other reasons. But there have been and will always be some brave ones.

The owner of that grid revised his prices and continued to develop his grid greatly, which today is one of the best in terms of technology, performance-wise, I think it's average, nothing special.

That's one of the reasons I have, Kristina.
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@Mistressdelgato Said : "I have helped a few people and others have helped me. i help when i can and know the answer. If i dont know it i recommend people who can and know the answer."

And what did I say? Can't you see that, as usual, some comments are really ridiculous and useless? Do you see that you confirm what I wrote?

Now I ask you, if you were to offer a paid service for a grid, and it doesn't work properly, how would you consider the help you offer to the person who PAYS you for the service? Would you consider it owed assistance included in the service, or a favor? Do you consider it part of your working time or a favor? Because I consider the help I offer to a customer if they have problems with a product I sell them, they pay me regularly and it doesn't work, as part of my working time. What do you say?

Here we are not talking about Fred with Dreamgrid who works for free for everyone, then he deserves thanks, here we are talking about pure servility and a person who has been advertising a system for over a year and passing it off as a "friendly" act by the owner when instead it is an owed act.

Wake up, guys, wake up mentally, come on.

As someone said, Boam and Ferraris move differently but the end goal is the same, and we saw it when avitron announced the closure...

I'm confident that you can do it, and wake up, understand that those who call someone else a troll are actually trolling themselves because they can't sustain a constructive conversation, that there are people who appear innocent but actually have ulterior motives, that if a grid is called Friends it doesn't mean it's friendly, that if a person claims freedom it doesn't mean they want it for everyone, that those who accuse others of creating drama and can only write in the comments 'you're causing drama!' are actually creating drama themselves in that precise moment in that post, in short, try to be constructive...

I'm confident that slowly you will wake up from these illusions and recognize those who truly deserve it, the proper respect for the work they do both for themselves and for the community.
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honestly the way you originally made the comment with me in it didn't seem like a compliment, it was confusing. However if someone was paying me for a service like a server for example, even tho there paying me i dont have to help them anymore then just with the server. it is my choice to help outside of what i am being paid for.

I stand with the fact that josh help outside of his paid service or at least how i look at it.
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It makes me laugh at you, and I laugh very honestly.

You all feel entitled to speak and comment freely, you forcefully take hold of this freedom that rightly should be everyone's right.

Everyone should be able to express their opinions, but...

If someone expresses theirs and it contrasts with yours, the only thing you do is invoke the right to express thoughts in defense of someone or simply to attack someone else, depriving others of the same right.

In short, some of you, besides always repeating the same questions, perhaps because lazy to read things already written, feel the need to express yourselves, nullifying the right of others to speak, because if those who speak or write are not in line with your "respectability," then they must be silenced.

You are really very funny XD
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Wouldn't it have been better to write everything in a single comment? Or do you enjoy counting the character limit on a comment too? You've set a very low limit I see..
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I don't care at all about being part of that grid with the owner who confuses the duty of a service provider with an act of friendship and advertises it as the only functioning system in all of Opensim, loool.
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Why do you keep track of CAPS in users' posts? And are you paid well or do you do it as a volunteer?
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Have you helped people or not? Mistress, for example, with DreamGrid according to her expertise, Nico in other ways, the community always responds to requests for help, or am I mistaken?
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I have helped a few people and others have helped me. i help when i can and know the answer. If i dont know it i recommend people who can and know the answer.
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Lone, honestly, I think you did a good deed. It didn't turn into a drama, but the hypocrisy of certain individuals who pay for a service and advertise it as an act of love and sacrifice on the part of the service provider when assistance is actually included seems ridiculous to me.

You did a good deed, and Boam's grids are worth 1/100000000000 of what you can create.

You're not paid, she's not your client unlike Boam who profits from it, so the thanks should primarily go to you.

Best regards! :)
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Lone is a competent and helpful person, there's not much to discuss, he's a very competent and kind person who deserves respect.
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@Harleyjannys

Have you ever seen her profile? Her posts? On more than one occasion, she shows devotion and advertises the services (otherwise quite common and poor) of Boam, which in other posts of mine has been considered equivalent to Ferraris in many instances (which unfortunately seems to be reopening soon...).

Upon reflection, why advertise Boam's help if their support is part of a paid service? Furthermore, I repeat, the only one who provided sincere help was Lone Wolf, because he doesn't gain anything from it, while Boam has only done his job, I add, as well written in the post I made, but as always, many cannot read... that here on more than one occasion users even with small grids have helped each other.

So the real question is: why is she so devoted to Boam? And above all, why did she delete my comment where we were looking for an answer on what kind of problem she has ever had and which pointed out that many people have helped each other and where it was said that the service should be included since it also pays a lot? Why didn't she block me? Why is she so cowardly? These are the questions to ask, don't you think?

I'm almost tempted to block her now... hehehe :)
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No, I haven't, and to be honest I still can't understand why do you care about her devotion towards whoever she wants.
She seems happy and the people helping too. So, my question stands... why do YOU care?
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And why do you care?

It seems like you also care that she makes a good impression...

I'm all for honesty, and I believe this person isn't showing "sincere devotion" but only "acts of exploitation" to attract users to rent Boam's services.

We've already discussed this in other contexts. That said, if you don't understand, reread the comments and the post, but rather tell me:

WHY DO YOU CARE?
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I always care to understand why people suffer with others happiness. Every time I see someone suffocating about something similar I ask. So far, no one has been able to explain to me why. You are another one in the list.
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I also want to understand why the truth is hidden and why there is such hostility towards those who publicly announce it, asking for explanations about truly strange posts that aim to divert people through servility.

And you too are on my list of people who judge easily and hide the truths that would prevent deceiving people.

I'd say we're even, but we can end the conversation here, as it would be pointless to continue. I don't like those people, like you, who judge without concrete facts and deny evidence by lying knowing they're lying.

Oh, right, remember, true happiness comes from the truth, as many enlightened minds have always said and taught.

But then again, thinking of you, you're definitely one of those who accuse others of making dramas just because they can't respond to topics in a simple and thorough manner... hehehe

bye, bye!
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You mentioned losing IAR and OAR files, so I'm wondering if your entire disk was erased. Not just the database—how can a script wipe your entire disk, including the folders where your backups are stored?

I think you should investigate the issue of losing your data by focusing on other factors, such as human errors (unintentional data deletion), service provider errors (in which case, you may seek compensation if you were paying for a server), or other issues. It's really strange that a script would erase the entire contents of your disk.

Anyway, I'm reiterating my previous response:

Honestly, I have never read from any scripter, or even from those who create modules for scripts in Opensimulator, that a script can call a function to delete the entire database. There is a script, for example, that allows setting up a partnership between accounts, but it should make a call to a web-type function by connecting to a PHP page, thus making a call to something created and set up by the grid owner on their server.

Furthermore, there is an integrated security system for making HTML calls in Opensimulator (there is a specific section in opensim.ini and opensimdefaults.ini), so I don't think that was the issue. I don't believe the deletion of your entire database could be related to a script. :)
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This is getting scarier by the time :( Could this happen to other Outworldz sims? To other sims using DreamGrid? Or Windows based?
Not sure which one the grid where I have my shop is using (apart from OS 0.9.2.) and I know they are doing offsite backups but..ugh :(
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Well, at the time all this happened I was in bed and Mike was at work. So I know no one was 'legally' logged into our server. There were 3 of our members on the grid watching the assets disappear and reporting to Mike in our Discord group. There was nothing he could do about it. By the time he got home the grid was gone. IAR, OAR, backups all those files were gone. The ini files were gone. So if it wasn't a script then someone had managed to find their way into the server. In terms of the hosting company, they don't maintain our server, that is up to us. It just seems weird that files were selectively deleted. I don't have any answers and only one I have from a 3rd party is these scripts made to take advantage of the bugs in the sql database. I'm no scripter and certainly not a hacker. All I know it that it happened and people were there watching it happen. I have no difinitive answers just speculation. I wish I had answers so we can work out how to prevent this happening again.
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If Resurgence was professionally hosted on an actual server, and it was still possible for amateurs to breach into the data centre and the machine and acquire full admin rights on Windows, then something is wrong with the hosting company.

I'm on the edge of saying that something is fundamentally wrong with Windows as an operating system for Internet servers. But I think only one out of maybe 15 grids is not running on Windows, and I refuse to believe that an operating system is so inherently unsafe and still regularly exposed to the Internet by professionals.

I still have to shudder thinking about those thousands of DreamGrids running on personal Windows computers behind provider-issued, customer-grade routers. Either they're even more unsafe, or if not, that'd say a lot about the hosting company.

Still, the backups are a key issue. DreamGrid is mainly intended for computers at home where you can stick a USB pen drive into the machine and copy the backups automatically created by DreamGrid onto that drive. I think if I said that securing DreamGrid backups on an external drive at home when the grid runs in a data centre is a bit more difficult, that'd be an understatement.

Nonetheless, if you start over, this will have to be done. It won't save your grid from being wiped, but you can always restore it, for it'll save your backups from being wiped.
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Oh it will be backed up off the server now. There is no trust left.

I don't think hacking our server could be difficult though, especially when you think about global companies and governments getting hacked. Had a few really big hacks recently here in Australia where peoples data was downloaded to the dark web. We really are just small fish in the grand scheme of things.
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This clearly wasn't an attack through OpenSim, using a script. This rather reads like someone having gained access to the underlying Windows system with full admin rights. (Resurgence was a DreamGrid, and DreamGrid is Windows-only.)

They could easily have deleted the whole DreamGrid. Then they might have snooped around on the machine, looking for backups outside the DreamGrid install, but still on the same machine, and deleted them as well.

Or they could simply have quick-formatted all drives in the machine, one by one, not only wiping out the grid but absolutely everything on the computer.
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