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Jupiter Rowland @JupiterRowland
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Aber Koburk sieht jetzt zum Glück nicht so kalt aus. An den Bäumen ist Laub...
Könnte man dieser Tage mal zum Aufwärmen hinfahren, wenn's nicht gerade ein Tropenstrand sein soll.
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Könnte man dieser Tage mal zum Aufwärmen hinfahren, wenn's nicht gerade ein Tropenstrand sein soll.
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What a pity. I hope EQG Mall isn't forced into closure by those haters whose goal is to rid the Hypergrid of any and all legal content.
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If you need shopping guides, you can find them here in the group.
Ruth2 v4: https://opensimworld.com/post/77517
Roth2 v2: https://opensimworld.com/post/77385
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Ruth2 v4: https://opensimworld.com/post/77517
Roth2 v2: https://opensimworld.com/post/77385
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If they really want something from your sim, there are many whom you won't be able to keep from getting it. Especially if they know they can't get it from regular freebie stores.
So they can't take something. No biggie, they'll come back with a copybot viewer. And if there are more than one or two items they want, they'll simply bot your entire sim in one go. Even if you're there. Seriously, there are people who'd bot an entire already heavy party region during a party.
Some are just like this. Greedy, asocial, egotistic and without any manners. And probably in OpenSim because there are no Lindens who could ban them from the entire Hypergrid at once.
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So they can't take something. No biggie, they'll come back with a copybot viewer. And if there are more than one or two items they want, they'll simply bot your entire sim in one go. Even if you're there. Seriously, there are people who'd bot an entire already heavy party region during a party.
Some are just like this. Greedy, asocial, egotistic and without any manners. And probably in OpenSim because there are no Lindens who could ban them from the entire Hypergrid at once.
I know we've had it done to our grid before nearly ruined us but we're back. Now if they act like that I ban them, but even then they just come back under another username from a different grid and do what you say. It's a very sad day when people have to be like that, they feel they have a "right" to your creations just because it's open sim.
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People can have various reasons for ignoring your greeting. Some are just plain anti-social. Some are too lazy to type and only ever communicate via voice, and it either isn't worth firing up voice just for a greeting, or voice is disabled on the sim/parcel.
Then there are those who not only don't speak your language but downright boycott it. They won't greet anyone back who doesn't greet them in their native language. Gramzy has mentioned a milder variant, namely those who always greet back in their native language. I guess they think that if other people can't be bothered to talk to them in their language or use a translator (as if you always knew someone doesn't speak any of your languages right off the bat), then neither should they.
Well, and then there are those cases who teleport into a sim and then go AFK for 20 minutes because it's just about that long that your typical packed-to-the-brim Dreamgrid sim on a cheapo home landline takes to rez in its entirety. At least I hope that's why they stand where they've landed without moving for minutes. By the way, that's rude all by itself because everyone else who teleports onto the sim will land on top of them. At least I hope that's the explanation because another one would be that they teleport in, cam around because that's quicker than walking, copy what they want and leave again.
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Then there are those who not only don't speak your language but downright boycott it. They won't greet anyone back who doesn't greet them in their native language. Gramzy has mentioned a milder variant, namely those who always greet back in their native language. I guess they think that if other people can't be bothered to talk to them in their language or use a translator (as if you always knew someone doesn't speak any of your languages right off the bat), then neither should they.
Well, and then there are those cases who teleport into a sim and then go AFK for 20 minutes because it's just about that long that your typical packed-to-the-brim Dreamgrid sim on a cheapo home landline takes to rez in its entirety. At least I hope that's why they stand where they've landed without moving for minutes. By the way, that's rude all by itself because everyone else who teleports onto the sim will land on top of them. At least I hope that's the explanation because another one would be that they teleport in, cam around because that's quicker than walking, copy what they want and leave again.
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This could give EEP an enormous push. I mean, many grids have already switched to EEP rather involuntarily by upgrading to OpenSim 0.9.2, and most of them seem to run the same "old" defaults regardless of how well they fit the situation.
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Yeah, man. I tell u. when people come to my sim using the noobie noon default sky.. it destroy my art lolol
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Well, I LOve YOu is a kind of spiritual successor, run by two former Stark regulars and home to more of them.
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You could try the Tropicana sims (https://opensimworld.com/hop/86876 and others). I don't have an avatar on OSgrid, so I can't tell you with certainty if it's possible to set a home point there, but they allow (and encourage) nudity, and at least Tropicana itself allows you to use its buildings as if you lived there.
Maybe there are still vacant homes at Tropicana Aegean (https://opensimworld.com/hop/87446). They're free, and you could make one of them yours. (Yes, free. This is the Hypergrid. A varsim consisting of several standard Second Life regions with tens of thousands of prims is cheaper here than a measly parcel with a dozen prims is in Second Life.)
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Maybe there are still vacant homes at Tropicana Aegean (https://opensimworld.com/hop/87446). They're free, and you could make one of them yours. (Yes, free. This is the Hypergrid. A varsim consisting of several standard Second Life regions with tens of thousands of prims is cheaper here than a measly parcel with a dozen prims is in Second Life.)
Oh, I know about the free homes part. Plotting my way around that now, I don't need a McMansion, thanks! Just something that'll allow at least ten people on board at once is OK (I say this BC I have alts in here already, with the same names I use for them in Second Life).
I want to find a place with all four seasons in effect... and rent different areas on occasion. Thanks for the advice, appreciate it! :)
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I want to find a place with all four seasons in effect... and rent different areas on occasion. Thanks for the advice, appreciate it! :)
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The entire Social Grid is currently locked and has been for months. It's being largely rebuilt in order to remove any and all illegal, copybotted items from the whole grid. So the grid is pretty much one big construction site.
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Kind of depends on what kind of recording studio you want. Instruments are fairly easy to get. A decent mixing desk, well, not so easy, also because they're generally all way out-of-scale with distorted proportions. I've "repaired" one so far and put it in a store, but I'd like to get another one done before I'd recommend the shop here.
If you're looking for a modern, computer-based recording setup, a good start may be to take Oni Kenkon's DJ stations and pick them apart for speakers, rack units etc. You can find both in Oni's store at Wright Plaza. But be careful with the many prims that make up the screens. I've gotten my screens somewhere else; I have to check from where.
If you're looking for a classic, analogue recording setup, you're out of luck. I've yet to see a studio-grade multi-track tape machine anywhere. And a stereo tape machine (I have a Revox PR99, and I've seen a B77 or A77 somewhere) won't be useful except for weird effects, tape loops or mastering.
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If you're looking for a modern, computer-based recording setup, a good start may be to take Oni Kenkon's DJ stations and pick them apart for speakers, rack units etc. You can find both in Oni's store at Wright Plaza. But be careful with the many prims that make up the screens. I've gotten my screens somewhere else; I have to check from where.
If you're looking for a classic, analogue recording setup, you're out of luck. I've yet to see a studio-grade multi-track tape machine anywhere. And a stereo tape machine (I have a Revox PR99, and I've seen a B77 or A77 somewhere) won't be useful except for weird effects, tape loops or mastering.
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In other words: If you want to come, and if you want to show that you know what's going on, dress in red.
Oh, and don't run away without a word if you discover that the local chat is mostly in German. (It is. You have been warned.)
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Oh, and don't run away without a word if you discover that the local chat is mostly in German. (It is. You have been warned.)
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Der Gaul sieht aus, als wäre eine Goldader drin. Mit sowas Schwerem würde ich nicht durchs Moor reiten wollen.
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Avia, these people, these very people whose grid has just been banned, have redefined the term "drama" hypergrid-wide. "Drama" now means any criticism about illegal actions or illegal content. And they saw this "drama" as reason enough to ban you from their grid on first strike and/or insult and harass you on websites.
This isn't random OpenSim users falling out with random OpenSim users. This is a mafia clan waging war against pretty much the rest of OpenSim. Except for their faithful "freebie"-addicted followers, that is.
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This isn't random OpenSim users falling out with random OpenSim users. This is a mafia clan waging war against pretty much the rest of OpenSim. Except for their faithful "freebie"-addicted followers, that is.
Jupiter, I see illegal content everywhere, in any grid ;-) I know it's a war and I think Open Sim should split up, but don't ever think if you ban people, the drama will stop. Because then, next drama with other folks begins ;-)
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Also, they've doxxed the site admin's family and harassed them in real life as an act of revenge.
In case some of you haven't read that.
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In case some of you haven't read that.
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Gibt's nur nicht mehr. Inzwischen läuft an Donnerstagen ein Bluesabend, und zwar hier: https://opensimworld.com/hop/86181
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Gibt es wieder :-)
Der Saloon steht jetzt auf der *CrossRoad* ium Caledonia-Grid und veranstaltet jeden Frei Country-Abende.
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Der Saloon steht jetzt auf der *CrossRoad* ium Caledonia-Grid und veranstaltet jeden Frei Country-Abende.
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Well, then certain people from a certain grid will argue, "But we ARE on the Hypergrid! You have to pay a monthly fee to visit us, but we are on the Hypergrid!"
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This must be one of the reasons why Amoa uses technical means to keep dressed avatars out and teleports them back to the landing, namely to keep those ignorants out who can't be bothered to ever read anything and/or don't care a bit for dress codes. That way, they either say, "WTF, I keep teleporting back, this sim must be broken, this sucks, I'm out," or they take the time and mental effort to actually read the huge sign at the landing.
What you do sounds rather sensible, but also for another reason: I keep seeing sims with different ratings on OSW and in-world. So if you rely on an Adult rating on OSW and decide to go somewhere in the buff, you may pretty well end up on an actually General-rated sim. My personal strategy is to either go dressed like you said or only check these kinds of sims when nobody else is around unless I can be certain that it's safe for me to go.
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What you do sounds rather sensible, but also for another reason: I keep seeing sims with different ratings on OSW and in-world. So if you rely on an Adult rating on OSW and decide to go somewhere in the buff, you may pretty well end up on an actually General-rated sim. My personal strategy is to either go dressed like you said or only check these kinds of sims when nobody else is around unless I can be certain that it's safe for me to go.
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FYI: The original pic is 1366x768. Besides, when you scroll, it stands still. So if you want to take in-world imagery, my advice would be to make it taller than 16:9 and then experiment until it's cropped in a way that works.
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Always the same.
One thing are those that go, "I wanna visit the sim, but I don't wanna be naked, but I wanna visit the sim, but I don't wanna be naked!" They're rather harmless, but still a nuisance. If they see the signs that demand absolute nudity from all visitors, if they even see that there's a technical barrier that keeps dressed avatars out, they should really understand that this is a nude sim, full stop, end of discussion. If they don't want to be naked because they're too prudish and up-tight, then this is not a sim for them.
Trying to circumvent both the sim rules and the technical barrier, for one, is unfair towards those who actually do undress to visit the sim. Granted, most don't have a problem with going nude, but I guess some actually have to gather some courage before they go nude in virtual public for their first time, just because they want to see this sim.
Besides, it's pretty egotistical. "I want to see this sim. I don't want to be naked. I wanna, I wanna, I wanna. I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't wanna. Me, me, me, me, me!" Such people obviously don't give a fucking shit for what anyone else thinks or feels. Namely that they ruin everyone's fun on a nude sim by walking around fully clothed. Either that, or they want to ruin everyone's fun out of a combination of anarchism (which in this case means anomism, disobeying all kinds of rules just because they're there) and lust for destruction.
Lastly, it'll indeed ruin another nude sim just like it has ruined so many other nude sims. No matter what "dress code" a nude sim has, whether it's "nude only, no clothes allowed", whether it's "clothing optional, but only swimwear allowed", they all ended up with more than half the visitors fully dressed. Okay, women usually dress in clubwear plus 10cm heels that you can't walk on sand in even if your life depended on it, but they don't have much of a choice. But men walk around fully covered in something that I'd never wear on any beach where it's warm enough to be naked. Black leather jacket, shirt underneath, long jeans and either leather shoes or sneakers.
I mean, it says a lot that you need a technical barrier to at least try and keep dressed avatars out of your nude-only sim. There seemed not to be any other way of keeping dressed people out. Yeah, until they found and shared ways of circumventing your barrier.
Sorry to say, but the only way of keeping your nude beach free from dressed people is by permanently banning all those who cheat themselves onto your sim.
Then, of course, there are the horny playaz. I guess most women who come to your sim and refuse to undress just want to walk around and look at the scenery and decoration. Many men want to walk around and gawk between naked female avatar's legs. And then, like you've already written, there are those. They don't just want to leer at naked women, they want to have sex with them. Full stop.
Of course, they're as fully dressed as I've described above. No, they don't want to do it right there, right then, regardless of the abundance of sex furniture, even if they could get onto the sim. They'd have to strip which they don't want to. Instead, they want to take that naked woman home with them. And no, they won't even take one piece of garment off until just a few seconds before the blowjob (or the foreplay-less fuck). Or they just take their dick out of their jeans.
In order to achieve that, they go dynamite-fishing by IM'ing the same copy-pasted chat-ups at absolutely every female avatar on the entire sim, and they'll probably continue until they catch one. Mind you, the female avatar in question hasn't even seen them yet because they never leave the landing zone. (They can't, they'd have to be naked which would be embarrassing or circumvent the barrier which would be complicated and inconvenient and ruin their outfit.)
These guys can ruin the Amoa experience even further. Women may end up being afraid of coming there because they feel like they WILL be harassed, and Amoa may end up a sausage-fest except for Holi.
Again, this can only be fought with a) a rule and b) enforcing it with bans. Either that, or make the guys believe that every last woman on the sim is lesbian. And people who can zoom from one corner of the sim to the opposite one will sooner or later clearly see this isn't the case.
Lastly, the child avatars. This topic is extremely hot. I think most of them belong to one individual, but not all of them. Now you may say that it doesn't matter because no real children are spoiled because the users behind the child avatars are adults. But the danger is something else.
I don't really like childgates. They're usually configured in such a way that they keep realistically-sized adult avatars out as well. This is because of two misconceptions: 1) Avatars in OpenSim are 15cm shorter than what the shape editor says, just like in Second Life, which is why you always have to adjust your shape 15cm taller than you want to be. (No, they aren't. And no, you don't have to.) 2) All avatars in OpenSim are generally extremely oversized. No adult avatar is under 2m. (Wrong again. OpenSim avatars are increasingly realistically-sized. A typical "2.50m", actually 2.35m Second Life avatar won't blend into OpenSim crowds but stick out as a two-and-a-half-metre giant.)
I think there are smarter childgates that try to go by worn assets rather than shape height. However, they have to be kept up-to-date with new child avatar accessories, and they can easily be circumvented.
However, sims like yours have three choices. One is constant 24/7 moderation that keeps child avatars out manually. Two is a childgate that keeps them out with either lots of especially realistic female adults as by-catch (unless you adjust it according to what I've written) or lots of kids slipping through regardless. Three is naked adult avatars having sex with naked little children (again, with grown-up people behind these child avatars) out in the open on your sim and those who see it blaming you for it.
That said, I'd suspect child avatars running around Amoa not to be the same as those who hang around paedo sims, but purpose-made by prudish, up-tight, wannabe puritan old-timers. People who wage a dirty war against all kinds of "naughty" sims so that the Adult rating can become a privilege for blues sims so that they can keep pesky kiddies off their lawns. But then again, there have been and still are so many other and even more popular sims where the Adult rating is more than justified, and they've never experienced such attacks (and some of them don't even have childgates).
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One thing are those that go, "I wanna visit the sim, but I don't wanna be naked, but I wanna visit the sim, but I don't wanna be naked!" They're rather harmless, but still a nuisance. If they see the signs that demand absolute nudity from all visitors, if they even see that there's a technical barrier that keeps dressed avatars out, they should really understand that this is a nude sim, full stop, end of discussion. If they don't want to be naked because they're too prudish and up-tight, then this is not a sim for them.
Trying to circumvent both the sim rules and the technical barrier, for one, is unfair towards those who actually do undress to visit the sim. Granted, most don't have a problem with going nude, but I guess some actually have to gather some courage before they go nude in virtual public for their first time, just because they want to see this sim.
Besides, it's pretty egotistical. "I want to see this sim. I don't want to be naked. I wanna, I wanna, I wanna. I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't wanna. Me, me, me, me, me!" Such people obviously don't give a fucking shit for what anyone else thinks or feels. Namely that they ruin everyone's fun on a nude sim by walking around fully clothed. Either that, or they want to ruin everyone's fun out of a combination of anarchism (which in this case means anomism, disobeying all kinds of rules just because they're there) and lust for destruction.
Lastly, it'll indeed ruin another nude sim just like it has ruined so many other nude sims. No matter what "dress code" a nude sim has, whether it's "nude only, no clothes allowed", whether it's "clothing optional, but only swimwear allowed", they all ended up with more than half the visitors fully dressed. Okay, women usually dress in clubwear plus 10cm heels that you can't walk on sand in even if your life depended on it, but they don't have much of a choice. But men walk around fully covered in something that I'd never wear on any beach where it's warm enough to be naked. Black leather jacket, shirt underneath, long jeans and either leather shoes or sneakers.
I mean, it says a lot that you need a technical barrier to at least try and keep dressed avatars out of your nude-only sim. There seemed not to be any other way of keeping dressed people out. Yeah, until they found and shared ways of circumventing your barrier.
Sorry to say, but the only way of keeping your nude beach free from dressed people is by permanently banning all those who cheat themselves onto your sim.
Then, of course, there are the horny playaz. I guess most women who come to your sim and refuse to undress just want to walk around and look at the scenery and decoration. Many men want to walk around and gawk between naked female avatar's legs. And then, like you've already written, there are those. They don't just want to leer at naked women, they want to have sex with them. Full stop.
Of course, they're as fully dressed as I've described above. No, they don't want to do it right there, right then, regardless of the abundance of sex furniture, even if they could get onto the sim. They'd have to strip which they don't want to. Instead, they want to take that naked woman home with them. And no, they won't even take one piece of garment off until just a few seconds before the blowjob (or the foreplay-less fuck). Or they just take their dick out of their jeans.
In order to achieve that, they go dynamite-fishing by IM'ing the same copy-pasted chat-ups at absolutely every female avatar on the entire sim, and they'll probably continue until they catch one. Mind you, the female avatar in question hasn't even seen them yet because they never leave the landing zone. (They can't, they'd have to be naked which would be embarrassing or circumvent the barrier which would be complicated and inconvenient and ruin their outfit.)
These guys can ruin the Amoa experience even further. Women may end up being afraid of coming there because they feel like they WILL be harassed, and Amoa may end up a sausage-fest except for Holi.
Again, this can only be fought with a) a rule and b) enforcing it with bans. Either that, or make the guys believe that every last woman on the sim is lesbian. And people who can zoom from one corner of the sim to the opposite one will sooner or later clearly see this isn't the case.
Lastly, the child avatars. This topic is extremely hot. I think most of them belong to one individual, but not all of them. Now you may say that it doesn't matter because no real children are spoiled because the users behind the child avatars are adults. But the danger is something else.
I don't really like childgates. They're usually configured in such a way that they keep realistically-sized adult avatars out as well. This is because of two misconceptions: 1) Avatars in OpenSim are 15cm shorter than what the shape editor says, just like in Second Life, which is why you always have to adjust your shape 15cm taller than you want to be. (No, they aren't. And no, you don't have to.) 2) All avatars in OpenSim are generally extremely oversized. No adult avatar is under 2m. (Wrong again. OpenSim avatars are increasingly realistically-sized. A typical "2.50m", actually 2.35m Second Life avatar won't blend into OpenSim crowds but stick out as a two-and-a-half-metre giant.)
I think there are smarter childgates that try to go by worn assets rather than shape height. However, they have to be kept up-to-date with new child avatar accessories, and they can easily be circumvented.
However, sims like yours have three choices. One is constant 24/7 moderation that keeps child avatars out manually. Two is a childgate that keeps them out with either lots of especially realistic female adults as by-catch (unless you adjust it according to what I've written) or lots of kids slipping through regardless. Three is naked adult avatars having sex with naked little children (again, with grown-up people behind these child avatars) out in the open on your sim and those who see it blaming you for it.
That said, I'd suspect child avatars running around Amoa not to be the same as those who hang around paedo sims, but purpose-made by prudish, up-tight, wannabe puritan old-timers. People who wage a dirty war against all kinds of "naughty" sims so that the Adult rating can become a privilege for blues sims so that they can keep pesky kiddies off their lawns. But then again, there have been and still are so many other and even more popular sims where the Adult rating is more than justified, and they've never experienced such attacks (and some of them don't even have childgates).
As always, such a well written, perfectly stated description of the situation and potential solutions. I agree, that using a childgate may hamper quite alot of innocent visitors. So until a better solution is devised, manual would have to be the way.
No one faults the occasional visitors who are lagging. Though it is pretty obvious in the name, that being dressed for a ball, isn't the proper attire. Hence the question regarding laziness or lack of common sense. I always inform them after some time and only ban when it becomes apparent they are there to disregard. A good example is completely ignoring IMs and local chat. It seems to be prevalent in these times, that people feel entitled to ignore what they don't like to read or hear. So manners, are long gone. Sorry I still believe in acknowledgements and such words as thank you.
With that said, as well as others opinions, the only current solution is to continue manually. Though the one question was never really answered. Whether or not it is lack of common sense, flagrant disregard of rules or just laziness.
I think you, as well as others, may be right that it is a very small group possibly even just one with the intention of making a region look bad, ruin competition, jealousy or just downright checking to see if rules are enforced.
As for the Puritan types, I would suspect they lack I.Q. to visit such a named place and be so offended. Then again in this day and age, seems like every simpleton is offended by everything that isn't done or exists THEIR way and wants the world to bend and change for them no matter what the consequences. I blame their parents for raising such fragile, delicate and uneducated wastes of oxygen and food resources. Had they been raised right, they wouldn't be going to a place that is already offending them with it's name. Their career is limited to Troublemaker 24-7 and therapy attendee that comes with pampers, puppies and pacifiers along with crates of tissues for their issues so they can cry the seven seas.
Again, i sincerely appreciate such an in depth well thought out response to the situation and the pursuit of a solution Jupiter.
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No one faults the occasional visitors who are lagging. Though it is pretty obvious in the name, that being dressed for a ball, isn't the proper attire. Hence the question regarding laziness or lack of common sense. I always inform them after some time and only ban when it becomes apparent they are there to disregard. A good example is completely ignoring IMs and local chat. It seems to be prevalent in these times, that people feel entitled to ignore what they don't like to read or hear. So manners, are long gone. Sorry I still believe in acknowledgements and such words as thank you.
With that said, as well as others opinions, the only current solution is to continue manually. Though the one question was never really answered. Whether or not it is lack of common sense, flagrant disregard of rules or just laziness.
I think you, as well as others, may be right that it is a very small group possibly even just one with the intention of making a region look bad, ruin competition, jealousy or just downright checking to see if rules are enforced.
As for the Puritan types, I would suspect they lack I.Q. to visit such a named place and be so offended. Then again in this day and age, seems like every simpleton is offended by everything that isn't done or exists THEIR way and wants the world to bend and change for them no matter what the consequences. I blame their parents for raising such fragile, delicate and uneducated wastes of oxygen and food resources. Had they been raised right, they wouldn't be going to a place that is already offending them with it's name. Their career is limited to Troublemaker 24-7 and therapy attendee that comes with pampers, puppies and pacifiers along with crates of tissues for their issues so they can cry the seven seas.
Again, i sincerely appreciate such an in depth well thought out response to the situation and the pursuit of a solution Jupiter.
To try and answer that one question: It depends on the behaviour.
Maybe they try to work around the barrier by wearing a ballgown. Maybe they believe that it's so very unlikely that someone wears something with "gown" in the name, especially on beach sims, that the word "gown" is not on the filter list, thus you won't be expelled for wearing one. The major sign for this is if they've actually tried to breach the barrier in the gown. A minor sign would be female avatars with BoM mesh bodies wearing old layer-plus-flexi-skirt ballgowns designed in the 2000s for the system body rather than the SL imports hanging in every more recent freebie store. The idea behind that would be that it's even less likely that these are on the filter list.
Or maybe it is a combination of laziness and lack of common sense. The kind of female avatar that always wears the same clothes, regardless of the situation. You know, the kind of female avatar that'll soon be seen at least by the dozen running around snow-covered Christmas sims in sandals with 10cm spike heels and sleeveless micro-mini dresses without tights. The female counterpart to the guy who goes to the nude beach in a black leather jacket. They always wear that, they love wearing that, and they can't be bothered to change.
Why a ballgown? Because these avatars refuse to wear these tiny club dresses that seem to make up 50% of all women's fashion SL imports. They don't like super-tight jeans, super-tight leggings and ripped jeans hot pants either. They have yet to find the four SL import boxes with long skirts/dresses that aren't ballgowns. And they will either probably never discover the rare sources for different clothes or, if they do, dislike them, too. So ballgowns as daily wear it is.
This is rather unlikely, though. Women will rarely only make one outfit for their avatars. They're more likely to use them as dress-up dolls, so they would certainly have at least one outfit that's rather fit for the beach. Those who don't like "dressing up" and wear the exact self-same outfit for years are mostly men and a great deal of them. If you see a female avatar always wearing the same clothes everywhere, especially if it's a rather low-effort outfit, it's likely that there's a real-life man behind the avatar.
I could also suspect that they did actually just come from a ball-like event and decided to go check out your sim together because they needed something to do after the ball. But did any such event occur recently, an event that justifies or even requires wearing a ballgown? Besides, if such an event takes place, how many of the women will actually wear a ballgown? 30% 40% maybe? That makes it even more unlikely that a 100% ballgown-wearing group comes from such an event.
But ignorance has always played a key role in occurrences on sims that allow, encourage or even require nudity. Typical situation on Stark Islands, especially past 13:00 grid time: An avatar arrives at a Stark party for the first time. Stays there and waits for everyone's clothes to rez. Not easy with 10-20 avatars around. Notices that it takes longer than usual for attachments on certain avatars to rez. Realises that there aren't, in fact, any attachments that'd have to rez on these avatars, and that these avatars are actually naked. In public. At a party, even, amongst other avatars. Leaves without saying a word, deeply disturbed and disgusted.
The Adult rating was originally created as a warning for prudish visitors that they may encounter fully nude avatars, if not even public sexual activity in a given place. It may still work as such in Second Life, but it either does no longer in OpenSim or has never done so in the first place. People have gotten used to Adult only meaning no kids allowed, even if it's on a perfectly clean sim that'd get away with a General rating, but the sim owner hates kids. And lots of grids actually allow for weakening the Adult rating to the point where all its liberties over Moderate or even General are taken away, and only the "no children" limitation is left. No wonder many people don't expect Adult things on Adult sims anymore and will protest against them.
However, it's even worse than that. You can plaster words like "nude" or "naked" all over your sim's advertisements and its name. People either can't be bothered to read that, even if it's in the sim's name. Or they believe, it's only a name or something to spice up the description, literally nobody ever obeys dress codes in OpenSim anyway, and especially, nobody really ever gets naked in public in OpenSim, no matter where. Or both. And then you've got prudish and up-tight people entering a no-clothes-allowed-whatsoever nude beach (complete with signs on all entrances in-world), fully dressed in their streetwear, of course, and then freaking out over the sight of one naked avatar.
I still expect someone to sooner or later downrate a nude sim and write a scathing review in which they loudly complain about the naked avatars. Either they'd clearly show that they haven't even read the sim's name (evident if they demand the sim owners do something against all the naked avatars), or they'd be surprised that people actually DO go naked there.
I tend to believe that the only way of keeping people out who are both prudish and dumb is by naming a sim something with "BDSM" in it. But then you'll have to deliver, otherwise the BDSM fetishists will complain that the sim has got nothing to do with BDSM. This may be the reason why not exactly few Adult sims are BDSM-themed: Adult rating and Adult category in combination with "nude", "naked" and even "sex" in the name don't drive prudes away because they don't think any of this actually occurs on the sim.
So I believe the nudity barrier at Amoa serves well against those ignorants who don't even read sim names before teleporting there or who think it's just a name, and neither the name nor the description (if they've read it, that is) are backed by anything. They'd otherwise happily stride around the entire sim in streetwear, completely unaware that this IS actually a nude sim. Getting teleported back to the landing repeatedly when trying to enter the sim should get them to a) read the sim's name, b) read its description and/or the huge sign at the landing, c) accept it as a matter of fact and d) act accordingly.
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Maybe they try to work around the barrier by wearing a ballgown. Maybe they believe that it's so very unlikely that someone wears something with "gown" in the name, especially on beach sims, that the word "gown" is not on the filter list, thus you won't be expelled for wearing one. The major sign for this is if they've actually tried to breach the barrier in the gown. A minor sign would be female avatars with BoM mesh bodies wearing old layer-plus-flexi-skirt ballgowns designed in the 2000s for the system body rather than the SL imports hanging in every more recent freebie store. The idea behind that would be that it's even less likely that these are on the filter list.
Or maybe it is a combination of laziness and lack of common sense. The kind of female avatar that always wears the same clothes, regardless of the situation. You know, the kind of female avatar that'll soon be seen at least by the dozen running around snow-covered Christmas sims in sandals with 10cm spike heels and sleeveless micro-mini dresses without tights. The female counterpart to the guy who goes to the nude beach in a black leather jacket. They always wear that, they love wearing that, and they can't be bothered to change.
Why a ballgown? Because these avatars refuse to wear these tiny club dresses that seem to make up 50% of all women's fashion SL imports. They don't like super-tight jeans, super-tight leggings and ripped jeans hot pants either. They have yet to find the four SL import boxes with long skirts/dresses that aren't ballgowns. And they will either probably never discover the rare sources for different clothes or, if they do, dislike them, too. So ballgowns as daily wear it is.
This is rather unlikely, though. Women will rarely only make one outfit for their avatars. They're more likely to use them as dress-up dolls, so they would certainly have at least one outfit that's rather fit for the beach. Those who don't like "dressing up" and wear the exact self-same outfit for years are mostly men and a great deal of them. If you see a female avatar always wearing the same clothes everywhere, especially if it's a rather low-effort outfit, it's likely that there's a real-life man behind the avatar.
I could also suspect that they did actually just come from a ball-like event and decided to go check out your sim together because they needed something to do after the ball. But did any such event occur recently, an event that justifies or even requires wearing a ballgown? Besides, if such an event takes place, how many of the women will actually wear a ballgown? 30% 40% maybe? That makes it even more unlikely that a 100% ballgown-wearing group comes from such an event.
But ignorance has always played a key role in occurrences on sims that allow, encourage or even require nudity. Typical situation on Stark Islands, especially past 13:00 grid time: An avatar arrives at a Stark party for the first time. Stays there and waits for everyone's clothes to rez. Not easy with 10-20 avatars around. Notices that it takes longer than usual for attachments on certain avatars to rez. Realises that there aren't, in fact, any attachments that'd have to rez on these avatars, and that these avatars are actually naked. In public. At a party, even, amongst other avatars. Leaves without saying a word, deeply disturbed and disgusted.
The Adult rating was originally created as a warning for prudish visitors that they may encounter fully nude avatars, if not even public sexual activity in a given place. It may still work as such in Second Life, but it either does no longer in OpenSim or has never done so in the first place. People have gotten used to Adult only meaning no kids allowed, even if it's on a perfectly clean sim that'd get away with a General rating, but the sim owner hates kids. And lots of grids actually allow for weakening the Adult rating to the point where all its liberties over Moderate or even General are taken away, and only the "no children" limitation is left. No wonder many people don't expect Adult things on Adult sims anymore and will protest against them.
However, it's even worse than that. You can plaster words like "nude" or "naked" all over your sim's advertisements and its name. People either can't be bothered to read that, even if it's in the sim's name. Or they believe, it's only a name or something to spice up the description, literally nobody ever obeys dress codes in OpenSim anyway, and especially, nobody really ever gets naked in public in OpenSim, no matter where. Or both. And then you've got prudish and up-tight people entering a no-clothes-allowed-whatsoever nude beach (complete with signs on all entrances in-world), fully dressed in their streetwear, of course, and then freaking out over the sight of one naked avatar.
I still expect someone to sooner or later downrate a nude sim and write a scathing review in which they loudly complain about the naked avatars. Either they'd clearly show that they haven't even read the sim's name (evident if they demand the sim owners do something against all the naked avatars), or they'd be surprised that people actually DO go naked there.
I tend to believe that the only way of keeping people out who are both prudish and dumb is by naming a sim something with "BDSM" in it. But then you'll have to deliver, otherwise the BDSM fetishists will complain that the sim has got nothing to do with BDSM. This may be the reason why not exactly few Adult sims are BDSM-themed: Adult rating and Adult category in combination with "nude", "naked" and even "sex" in the name don't drive prudes away because they don't think any of this actually occurs on the sim.
So I believe the nudity barrier at Amoa serves well against those ignorants who don't even read sim names before teleporting there or who think it's just a name, and neither the name nor the description (if they've read it, that is) are backed by anything. They'd otherwise happily stride around the entire sim in streetwear, completely unaware that this IS actually a nude sim. Getting teleported back to the landing repeatedly when trying to enter the sim should get them to a) read the sim's name, b) read its description and/or the huge sign at the landing, c) accept it as a matter of fact and d) act accordingly.