Jupiter Rowland @JupiterRowland

Germany (Real Reality™), Dorenas World (virtual reality), OSgrid (secondary virtual reality) Online

Far-travelled on the Hypergrid and convinced of Roth2 v2.


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Looks safer than the previous tour with the carriage.
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No, this one is fraught with peril as well. :D
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As long as they didn't have key infrastructure flooded with water by firefighters...

...not that this has happened before...
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nothing like that lol
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Ok, thanks so it is a known bug. I normally use 6.6.14 as my default as it works well. I tried 6.6.16 and 6.6.17 and they all give the same issue as shown in that bug report and same as 7.1.9. Gonna stick with 6.6.14 until the bugs get fixed.
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I've managed to acquire an older Clubmaster with these two animations in it, but the male animation seems to be partly broken. But I might have other options.
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thanks for your efforts
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Another cowardish bully with loads of non-descript sock puppets.
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There is Primfeed now for this very reason, but it's strictly exclusively for Second Life users and Second Life images.

https://www.primfeed.com
https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2024/05/primfeed-flickr-replacem...
https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2024/08/primfeed-flickr-replacem...

Maybe, as IndigoQueen has already hinted at, it'd be a good idea to leave commercial, centralised services behind and join the Fediverse (think "the Hypergrid, but not like Second Life, but with lots of stuff similar to Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and YouTube and what-have-you"). I don't recommend Mastodon (like opensimsocial.com) for posting images, though.

There is also Pixelfed. Just like OpenSim, Mastodon and almost everything else in the Fediverse, it is free, open-source and decentralised. And it aims to be a replacement for Instagram, so it's all about posting images. It connects to Mastodon as well as everything else in the Fediverse. I myself haven't tried it, though.

https://pixelfed.org/
https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Pixelfed%3F

Here you can find instances (think "grids, but they are Instagram clones instead of Second Life clones"):

https://pixelfed.org/servers
https://fedidb.org/software/pixelfed
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Thank you very much, it is a real mine of information, however Flickr is in my opinion the most respectful of images, in its presentation, it is the most interesting to handle. I have been on Primfeed for some time now with my SL Nadejdae account and I post there regularly but it is invaded by commercial and photos to sell everything and nothing, and little space for art, the format is not at all suitable for the gallery of Opensim people, on Flickr they are all together, (one next to the other) and I can make albums for each one, instead of scrolling one above the other like instagram, X or primfeed which is only viewable for people with an SL account.
I persist on Flickr because I have not broken any rules and I know that I will get my account back in 3 or 4 days.
I will visit the other links given, all I know is that I will continue to make this gallery and I see that there is a great solidarity in OS and I am confident.
I hope you are ready for the pictures :)
Thank you very much for this post which is very explicit, and very well written!
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There's a cat avatar at the old 3rd Rock Grid newbie-outfitting store at Sirocco, in case you can still enter ZetaWorlds. Untested, just mentioning it.

https://opensimworld.com/hop/92452
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Also, imagine someone posted something glaringly pro-Trump, pro-Vance, pro-Heritage Society, pro-Project 2025, pro-totalitarian dictatorship and deeply racist, sexist, misogynist, supremacist, anti-environmentalist, homophobic, transphobic and generally xenophobic.

Would all the same people who try to silence Dorena openly speak out against that as well?
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Her post is the opposite of that. Those are the people trying to silence her. Sorry...did I miss something? It's possible I did....more coffee....
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One should look in their own country's backyard before looking at their neighbours or of those on the other side of the world..
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These individuals are not here to contribute positively or to help build and grow our virtual world. Instead, they are sowing discord, creating divisions, and holding our community hostage to discussions that have no place in this space. Opensim was created as a haven for creativity, collaboration, and the shared joy of building something unique together—not as a battleground for real-life political or religious disputes. We are not trying to silence Dorena, we just want our space to be positive place where we can create this is not RL.

Focus energies that help opensim to flourish to not be at odds. Or to be held hostage with hate.

Dorena creates beautiful videos and AI, I would much rather see her videos promoting opensim and creativity. It has nothing to do with silencing her at all. I am a creator, when I open my browser and first thing I see is Trump or Putin all my creativity takes a nose dive, She deleted one of my comments explaining this she replied back to me to just block or not read her. Does she really want us all to block her is that her goal? What I see is this all started when she was attacked for her views, I get that - but by continuing this she is letting the other guy win because she stays wallowing in the same pit of dispair. Rise up!
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You are ranting extensively, but not once do I see you directly responding to her explanation that, if someone deletes their own comment, or Dorena herself deletes a comment from above your comment in the comment hierarchy, all replies to said comment are deleted. You are smart and I know you can comprehend her explanations, rather than making her repeat it over and over, and then ignoring it and seeing only what you wish to see, and replying on what you wish to rant about. If you have so many issues with her posts, why are you making so many comments? There are other agendas at play here, it seems. I guess I don't understand why so many are always ganging up on Dorena. And why do so many ignore the hate speech and horrible derogatory words that people like GlennXpletive use? Seems it is ok to be a bully and a hateful person, so long as people have a political camp in common.
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There is no agenda at play here, I have been in opensim nearly as long as Dorena, I have watched her post for years and never seen her under attack. The "people at play" since Glenn fight are trolls who want to silence her, this is what I am taking such offense at, she is constantly under attack now since the Glenn fight, he has been banned yet she continues on posting messages to him here at OSW when he cannot reply. Making it all public for months. Opensimworld isn't the place for public fighting is the point I am making. The comments deleted were ones I commented to her, 3 she then explained someone commented vile so she had to remove it, the reason you are seeing what you term ranting from me is because of comment removals, it looks like ranting when she does this, makes the person replying look like a ranter. Why all this needs to stop it takes conversations out of context then people are misunderstood.

This is a Opensim public forum not a battleground I know your stance of stand up and fight, but fight who? All of "us" cause Glenn cannot post now. Suzi said it was to flush out Trumpistas, I am not one and even if I were this is not the place for that, Opensim is international I doubt they will flush out that many here.

I don't like to see my friends attacked. She made it obvious she will continue, I will close the window now, this is what I wanted to avoid. The trolls all are doing the good ol bait and switch routine with comments and she is now doing this to all her friends (she has to when they spew the hate towards her) I replied to you to try to clarify yet once again, with all my comments I would think you would see my true motive which is wanting to keep a friend from spiraling down the hate path with the trolls. And taking us with her, this is when I close that door.
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Seriously, Opensim is a blank canvas, and can be used for whatever any creator wishes, good or evil or even just bland and neutral. Politics is only ever only just below the surface, and to many of us it's an important subject. Those who are not interested, or who just don't want to be involved are free to not involve themselves. No one is twisting your arm and forcing you to read those posts. Just ignore them, just as I habitually ignore The Box most of the time.
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Does that mean that the annoying witch Dorena will now be burned??
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Is that the penalty you think should be suffered by those who do as you have been doing? The original archaic meaning of a witch was: "archaic : to influence or beguile with allure or charm". Do you feel it is what you have been doing with your threads and posts?
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I prefer to get straight to the point.
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So what is your point in all this?
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Rise up means to rise up above negativity. It started when your views were attacked. Nobody is trying to silence you, my hope is that you would rechannel and focus to positive opensim related topics, since this is Opensim and it is mostly a fantasy world, RL topics belong in RL platforms. You are hellbent on "feeling" we are all out to attack you, not all of us. I have been here a long time too, Opensim was not founded on politics or religion it was founded by collaboration and free and opensource software. Lets just keep it focused on what it is.
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Any separation is illusory. We are the same people, and Opensim isn't a different world, just an extension of our very real world.
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While separation between the virtual and real worlds may be seen as illusory, boundaries still play a crucial role in maintaining the integrity and purpose of different spaces. Just as we might choose different environments for work, relaxation, or socializing in real life, Opensim can be a space where people choose to focus on creativity, community, and personal well-being, free from the divisiveness of real-world issues.
The posts are not just views against Donald Trump these posts are to create a rise and obtain likes. Dorena commented (then removed it) saying the likes on her post indicate her posts are well received then she gets attacked for those very views which continues the hate. Which divides us. I agree, with you it is obvious what the goal is here to me since Dorena cannot vote in USA, this is purely for a rise and likes. With no real concern for the opensim community or who it harms.
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Firstly, there is no separation between the supposed virtual and real worlds: they are merely different aspects of the same. Dorena does not post the things she does for likes or to derive vicarious pleasure. Nothing she posts will cause any harm to anyone, unless they're oversensitive Trump supporters, and I won't shed any tears over them! No, Dorena's concerns go way beyond the Opensim 'community' to the wider community of the whole world, which will be a much nastier and more dangerous place if the likes of Trump are allowed anywhere near the levers of power.
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As I have already written elsewhere. We are all real people and not just avatars, the two cannot be separated. I think it is important to discuss such elementary things, particularly because of the opportunity to exchange ideas internationally in OpenSim. And no one is prevented from limiting themselves to OpenSim. When OpenSim was first founded, I did a lot for the community. And yes, I have a lot of experience with OpenSim. But it is difficult to assert yourself against many know-it-alls and wannabe admins.
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Dorena, that is why I have been in this conversation for two days, I know all you contribute I miss that. I don't like to see the attacks against you, I would much rather see you contributing again. We all read you and understand your views we are all entitled to those views, you should never have been attacked, I also do not feel that attack should have stayed on Opensim for days so everyone could see that attack, I am sorry I know how that had to hurt you after all you have given to opensim. I understand that you would be hurt and angry, I would be too. Please know that sincerely some of us really value you and enjoy what you create. My hope is the focus at OSW can get back to helping each other instead of tearing each other down or blocking people.
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Thank you for your sensitive, friendly comment. Yes, I was attacked, and I also received something like this via PM: "First of all, you wrote your stupid post in two languages. Just a side note. And secondly, if the shoe fits, wear it... You prove time and again that you're stupid, you don't need a post from me for everyone to know that... If you think that will have consequences on my part, then try something... I'll gladly give you my address if you dare to come by... The fact that you're a guy is an open secret that's been going around for years... Come by and I'll knock the crap out of your ass....... "
Very nice, isn't it?? To be honest, hate messages like this convince me even more that I'm doing the right thing. People like that are also running around in OpenSim. That way I know where I stand with them.
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Do you know that OpenSimWorld has a feature called "groups"? Basically subforums run and managed by users? Look at the left sidebar, there's an entry, "All Groups".

You may want to apply for a membership in a group named The Love Is Love Alliance: https://opensimworld.com/groups/1032

Otherwise, here are some explicitly gay-oriented sims.

Priape: https://opensimworld.com/hop/75809
PortVesper: https://opensimworld.com/hop/74745
GayPride: https://opensimworld.com/hop/91710
GayPride 2: https://opensimworld.com/hop/91003
Brotown: https://opensimworld.com/hop/89300
Kira Farm: https://opensimworld.com/hop/86639

The whole Nautilus archipelago, is very gay-friendly. The owner, Chad Deischer, is gay himself. https://opensimworld.com/user/Chad.Deischer

Stark and the rest of the Stark Archipelago are generally LGBTQIA+-friendly. Stark is here: https://opensimworld.com/hop/82322 Check out the many pride flags near the landing. The other 13 Stark sims are all listed on OSW, too.
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This was very helpful information for me. thank you for sharing,
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I can't promise anything, but maybe I'll manage to acquire an old enough Clubmaster that has them.
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If that's a box of its own, it may be lost. Even I don't have a box with that name in my collection, and I'm a kind of obsessive Selea Core collector. Also, I know Star Ravenhurst doesn't have a box with that name, and I think if a Selea Core box still exists on the Hypergrid, she has it.

Otherwise, I'll go check the other Christmas boxes and the Dishes box.
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Notorious trolls don't block you.

And even if they do, they unblock you at times, just to troll you again immediately afterwards and then block you again so you can't defend yourself.

Not to mention that they all have a whole pile of unused, blank-profile, blank-slate sock puppet accounts on OSW which they'll use once to attack someone and then never again.
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The problem with this isn't just those who are convinced that OpenSim is nothing but a 3-D chat. It's those who believe that everyone else thinks the same.

It's hard to act in-character if absolutely everyone else thinks you're talking about RL.
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The boxes have been replaced at the Kaufrausch Mega-Store in Santiago as well.
https://opensimworld.com/hop/78061
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Okay, I've just checked the scripts. What Satyr offers in-world is actually v0.91112, so that's also what I've upgraded my furniture to.
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You can always find the most recent version here:

https://opensimworld.com/library?view=44

But if Satyr never upgrades the box on his own sim...
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And to make next "unknown quality" build and to share in OpenSIM with my name in creator?
I hope Satir will read this and... not allow to natural blonde to make your work:)
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A little gripe, this may be because the sim is still a WIP: Safe navigation is only possible via teleporter. The boat rezzer seems useful, but there's only one, and everything you can get out if it de-rezzes the very moment you stand up, and you drop straight to the seafloor. Some of the speedboats can be driven, too, but their floors seem to be phantom, so when you get up, you fall all the way down again. And since flying is not allowed, you can only recover by using the map to teleport to the island in the northwest corner which is the only "real" dry land. Everything else is mesh floating above a flat seafloor at Z=0.
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des tp ont été ajoutés...
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Nous avons le vip pour les personnes qui demandent gentiment qui permet le vol et le tp . J espère qu'en dehors de ce petit désagrément la sim vous a plus. Je mettrais des tp sur toutes les iles ...
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The sim is set to Private? At least I can't enter.
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No review yet because I've yet to see everything. Just so much: This place is not for the faint of hardware. The number of prims on this sim has to be "Yes." But if your machine has got what it takes, come here with Firestorm 7.1. It's worth it, and you'll need the multi-threading anyway.
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"Most who come from Second Life usually don't stay because they find Opensim quite empty of avatars, and many don't grasp that Opensim is a confederation of grids, and not one grid like SL."

A common mistake amongst those who have just gotten into touch with something decentralised and federated is that they take the lighthouse instance for the whole thing. In OpenSim's case, they think OSgrid is the OpenSim grid.

Fresh SL converts in particular try to navigate OpenSim or even just OSgrid just like they navigate SL. Via categories. No wonder they hardly find anything because hardly any sim in OSgrid is filed into one of these categories and therefore directly accessible in the viewer.

I kid you not, there are absolute SL veterans who have never in their lives used the map to teleport. They don't even know you can do that, much less how. Truth be told, though: Even though I've never been in SL, it took me a while to figure out how to teleport and especially Hypergrid using the map because there was nothing and nobody who could have told me how.

Which takes us to the onboarding issue which comes on top of an even steeper learning curve than in SL. But that's another story and shall be told another time.
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That, and ubODE is its own can o' worms. It can't handle certain hollow meshes as hollow, and then you can't enter certain buildings although there isn't even a door in your way. That's also what you get for ripping SL content, importing it into OpenSim and never testing it. SL meshes aren't made for ubODE compatibility.

It's possible to work around the stairs issue with BulletSim by adding an invisible diagonal prim to the stairs. But hardly anyone knows this trick, and seriously, who builds anything with prims these days when people would love to be able to "buy" entire ripped SL sims and plop them down in one piece if they could?
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Most who have been around for a while are well aware of the prim ramp fix and often do that. I've already mentioned the workaround for resolving the issues with ubode. It would have been easy enough for them to have included the original meshmerizer that what only needed four lines of code to be activated. Core in its wisdom decided not to do that and try to insist on a physics map for meshes whereas simply utilizing the mesmerizer option will fix it with no downside that I'm aware of.
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