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I am sure if you got 10 grid owners together with the idea of all agreeing on any standard to use (for anything) you would get 10 people who would be really willing to work together... if only the other 9 would do it they way THEY wanted to. That's often one of the problems with the idea of "getting people together to agree to something".
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For those who are thinking "four candles????" What??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_6SaqVQSw
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To be honest, I think this is a fair statement. Whatever Alex's past may be - and whatever may lie in his future, for better or worse, he does currently seem to have a fair number of people on his grid. This has to be a major factor for anyone wanting to make friends on the grid they are on. I would echo what copper says about investing real money - but would change it slightly to "Don't invest more real money into Avitron than you are willing to lose". Who knows, this may be the grid Alex runs that DOESNT go down. Only time will tell. I CAN say however, that from the point of view of someone just starting out and wanting a place with people - his makes sense from that standpoint.
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Sounds exactly what I've been looking for Cheryl thanks 😊. I do realise that there is only a small chance for these to actually work and requires people to actually come to the place and look. I'm also not sure what I will end up using this for... I have a number of ideas.
I have a number of plans generally to work out in priority order:
Matching boards for DaddyDoms and littles (and MummyDommes too ofc)
Matching boards for (totally PG rated) child avatar adoption agency. (Probably a broken idea before I start as so much I'll feeling toward child avatars even in PG environments)
Also want to make an ME/CFS awareness centre for providing more information for those touched by this debilitating condition. This won't need a matching script of course, but will take my time so it's juggling priorities.
I was first just looking to see what's around I could use to start with 😊
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I have a number of plans generally to work out in priority order:
Matching boards for DaddyDoms and littles (and MummyDommes too ofc)
Matching boards for (totally PG rated) child avatar adoption agency. (Probably a broken idea before I start as so much I'll feeling toward child avatars even in PG environments)
Also want to make an ME/CFS awareness centre for providing more information for those touched by this debilitating condition. This won't need a matching script of course, but will take my time so it's juggling priorities.
I was first just looking to see what's around I could use to start with 😊
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Um.... where did I mention "paying for it"???? I specifically mentioned you pay for it in SL, but it would be different in OS as there is no standard money system and I don't want to make any money from it........ Seriously, reading is hard these days.
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Thanks for your reply @Copper. By "Personals" boards I mean boards for posting personal ads. The ones I am used to in SL work like this:
You pay for the board - simple rental (of course this would need to be different in OS as in the main there is no real currency and I'm not after "making any money" with this in the first place. I would imagine in OS it would simply be - if its not already rented then when you click it you are given the option of renting it for 0.) The board is then "yours for the duration or the rental period.
If someone other than you then clicks the board they are given a copy of your ad notecard, and a menu where they can "like" your board, and also see how many people have already liked your board.
If you as "renter" click the board its initially in setup mode. In setup mode you can ctrl+drag a notecard to the board - this has the details of your ad, ctrl+drag a texture to the board - this has the texture that people see (usually an image you). You then click the board and select activate.
Once the board is setup, you can click again (as renter) and choose setup if you want to update your ad/texture, then activate again. You can also select to see who has liked your board. You can then IM them directly if you choose.
These types of boards are common in SL and usually used for "Personals". Obviously used for finding romantic/sexual partners but also for other types of partnership like in many of the adoption agencies (and yes, there ARE some adoption agencies in SL that are totally PG).
I hope it makes more sense what I am asking about now. I may just have to write one myself. I did find a very old script online on the old SecondLife wiki (nothing I could see on Outworldz script library) but needs major changes for OS due to revolving around interactions of paying L$ toit to fire off events. May be able to find enough help in that one to make a working one in OS though but my scripting experience is really like 15 years old now!
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You pay for the board - simple rental (of course this would need to be different in OS as in the main there is no real currency and I'm not after "making any money" with this in the first place. I would imagine in OS it would simply be - if its not already rented then when you click it you are given the option of renting it for 0.) The board is then "yours for the duration or the rental period.
If someone other than you then clicks the board they are given a copy of your ad notecard, and a menu where they can "like" your board, and also see how many people have already liked your board.
If you as "renter" click the board its initially in setup mode. In setup mode you can ctrl+drag a notecard to the board - this has the details of your ad, ctrl+drag a texture to the board - this has the texture that people see (usually an image you). You then click the board and select activate.
Once the board is setup, you can click again (as renter) and choose setup if you want to update your ad/texture, then activate again. You can also select to see who has liked your board. You can then IM them directly if you choose.
These types of boards are common in SL and usually used for "Personals". Obviously used for finding romantic/sexual partners but also for other types of partnership like in many of the adoption agencies (and yes, there ARE some adoption agencies in SL that are totally PG).
I hope it makes more sense what I am asking about now. I may just have to write one myself. I did find a very old script online on the old SecondLife wiki (nothing I could see on Outworldz script library) but needs major changes for OS due to revolving around interactions of paying L$ toit to fire off events. May be able to find enough help in that one to make a working one in OS though but my scripting experience is really like 15 years old now!
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I've been on this rollercoaster here, Hopefully, you will have your partner/daddy/dominant/other with you in case you throw up! It's awesome!
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There IS no REAL child/adult threshold in RL as there really are tiny adults, and eally big kids..... however in os, I would probably go with an average and simply say "we know you may disagree but this is what we have decided" They can either comply or leave. It will irritate some people you can be sure, but tough. Your sim, your rules. I WAS recently asked somewhere to make myself bigger...... and i checked my appearance settings and i was like 1.74m so i just laughed and left. If people want to be small on their own grids, up to them but you make the rules on your own imo.
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Late to the party but..... I guess that's what happened to the adoption center Penny used to run in AviWorlds then. I did wonder where it went, and her.
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I provided this link to one fanboy of Alex and suggested he help him learn one of the decades old basics of word processing.
https://zapier.com/blog/find-replace-guide/ We will see how it takes
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https://zapier.com/blog/find-replace-guide/ We will see how it takes
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Up to a point, yes. There are SOME rights that you can't sign away by contact (at least this is the case in UK law - there will be differences around the world I am sure). Providing you keep a copy of your content however, while you can't stop Alex doing what he likes with it (unless you want a lawsuit), he also cant stop you if you have a copy. In many cases if he tried to take a lawsuit against someone for reusing their content he had "taken ownership of" he would simply be exposing himself for not legally having the rights to it in the first place. If the content was copy-botted, then in effect he would be reselling stolen goods. Not the best foundation for a law case.
Bottom line, keep your own copies. Take your content to a region on a HG enabled standalone and drop it down so you can take your own backups of it.
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Bottom line, keep your own copies. Take your content to a region on a HG enabled standalone and drop it down so you can take your own backups of it.
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I think many of them fall into the camp of "Alex is just the underdog, he tries so hard and we want to support him..........". Many are however so blind, that they WILL just follow him onto the next venture - and just eat up the wasted time (and likely money) they have invested in his current one when it inevitably falls over again.
I did used to at least partially sing his praises for always picking himself up, brushing the dust of and starting over again.... however far too many people have invested heavily in making homes on his previous grids and lost all their work. Never giving up is a good thing... BUT... only if you don't keep taking others with you, and his past experience has been just that. I HOPE for the sake of his fans that this time his project "stays put" but that doesn't change his "everything is mine" approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54lVO7elt0
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I did used to at least partially sing his praises for always picking himself up, brushing the dust of and starting over again.... however far too many people have invested heavily in making homes on his previous grids and lost all their work. Never giving up is a good thing... BUT... only if you don't keep taking others with you, and his past experience has been just that. I HOPE for the sake of his fans that this time his project "stays put" but that doesn't change his "everything is mine" approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54lVO7elt0
I'm not even so sure that he has that many faithful fanbois and fangurls who support him no matter what, even after his long history of grid crashes with total data losses (except for himself, of course), of "selling the grid" and forcibly taking it back afterwards several times etc. Maybe some are convinced that Hypergrid Business has falsified history.
I dare say that many are simply new to OpenSim, joined the second-biggest grid (and the one with the loudest advertising) and have never heard of him and of the history of AviWorlds under him. I hope for them that they won't learn the hard way by another sudden and unannounced grid shutdown with no chance to rescue their content.
Others are opportunistic content junkies who joined AviTron when and because it was the only grid with free Sacrarium access, and they did so to bot Sacrarium's boutique sims. Now they roam the Hypergrid and bot everything they can get. If any other grid had made that deal with Sacrarium, they would have joined that one and done the same.
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I dare say that many are simply new to OpenSim, joined the second-biggest grid (and the one with the loudest advertising) and have never heard of him and of the history of AviWorlds under him. I hope for them that they won't learn the hard way by another sudden and unannounced grid shutdown with no chance to rescue their content.
Others are opportunistic content junkies who joined AviTron when and because it was the only grid with free Sacrarium access, and they did so to bot Sacrarium's boutique sims. Now they roam the Hypergrid and bot everything they can get. If any other grid had made that deal with Sacrarium, they would have joined that one and done the same.
This "history of AviWorlds under him", I am curious, is this all one sided, or are both sides of the story presented in all honesty? From the looks of what I see here, there is an OBVIOUS mission against such, and you fail to realize, he is the owner, and he can do what he wants with it, and there's not really much you can do about it but complain, which, is a complete waste of time. The reason for this, is NO ONE knows what the TRUTH is until they take the time to do their homework to some reasonable extent, and taking into consideration the absolutely ludicrous accusations I see posted, it's nothing more than a troll fest to try and make both Alex and AT look bad, but guess what, that still doesn't make it go away, because you have zero control over who moves in next door when they buy the place. You might want to research these three words in the context of what they mean... Open Sim Community
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"History of AviWorlds under him":
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/04/aviworlds-shuts-...
Scroll down all the way. There is the history. There's your homework. These are facts.
Also, take a look at the short history of Virtual-Ville, Alex' next grid which ended pretty much the same way AviWorlds ended 13 times over:
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/10/pomposelli-shuts...
If you're a newbie, and you haven't heard or read of any of this before, that's okay, now you know.
I just hope you aren't one of those years-long Alex fanbois and claqueurs who think that this is all "fake news" and propaganda invented by Maria Korolov and Josh Boam in order to badmouth the Greatest Grid Admin Ever.
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https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/04/aviworlds-shuts-...
Scroll down all the way. There is the history. There's your homework. These are facts.
Also, take a look at the short history of Virtual-Ville, Alex' next grid which ended pretty much the same way AviWorlds ended 13 times over:
https://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2020/10/pomposelli-shuts...
If you're a newbie, and you haven't heard or read of any of this before, that's okay, now you know.
I just hope you aren't one of those years-long Alex fanbois and claqueurs who think that this is all "fake news" and propaganda invented by Maria Korolov and Josh Boam in order to badmouth the Greatest Grid Admin Ever.
"NO ONE knows what the TRUTH is until they take the time to do their homework?" Like reading the AviTron TOS? https://avitron.net/terms-and-conditions
In the post, I presented the words of Alex, publicly published in his grid's TOS. If this is an OBVIOUS mission against Alex, then OBVIOUSLY, he should not have written the TOS as he did.
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In the post, I presented the words of Alex, publicly published in his grid's TOS. If this is an OBVIOUS mission against Alex, then OBVIOUSLY, he should not have written the TOS as he did.
It's an accepted fact that Alex has shutdown and restarted grids a large number of times. The number 17 as presented here is probably about right - I remember many of them personally myself. Sometimes with the grid only being online a very short period of time. Alex has admitted this himself (although claims to have learned by these mistakes). When his grids have gone down - people have lost content. This is not an opinion. Sometimes the shutdown has been so fast that the grid was there one day and gone the next with no warning.
Additionally, it is a matter of fact that his TOS claim IP rights over all content ever brought onto his grid. In as much as to facilitate that content - it needs to be presented to all visitors viewers this is pretty standard (you put content on the grid - you give me rights to show it to people who come looking - HAS to work this way). However, the rights he is claiming go far further than that.
Although writing them in TOS doesn't make them law - and he would not maintain any ownership rights on MOST content as MOST content has been copied "unofficially" from the originals without permission - where this is not the case, the TOS would mean that you have agreed that anything of YOURS you upload - he can now do whatever he likes with it, has no duty of care over your content, and can sell it and you have no rights over it anymore. A lot of this is "dubious" at best in law - and the fact that he would be claiming ownership on a lot of content that was botted means any case he fought in a court of law would likely fall flat on its face.
Despite what Alex may say, this isn't "trolling" Alex. His reputation has been earned by his past actions, and now claiming everything is his, is like a "last nail in the coffin to many people".
Having said that, everyone makes their own choices. I can't (and wouldn't) tell anyone who to support or not. Speaking personally though, while I have admired his tenacity and dogged determination to keep trying again, the morality of repeatedly taking others down with him, goes very much against him and I would never trust any of his grids.
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Additionally, it is a matter of fact that his TOS claim IP rights over all content ever brought onto his grid. In as much as to facilitate that content - it needs to be presented to all visitors viewers this is pretty standard (you put content on the grid - you give me rights to show it to people who come looking - HAS to work this way). However, the rights he is claiming go far further than that.
Although writing them in TOS doesn't make them law - and he would not maintain any ownership rights on MOST content as MOST content has been copied "unofficially" from the originals without permission - where this is not the case, the TOS would mean that you have agreed that anything of YOURS you upload - he can now do whatever he likes with it, has no duty of care over your content, and can sell it and you have no rights over it anymore. A lot of this is "dubious" at best in law - and the fact that he would be claiming ownership on a lot of content that was botted means any case he fought in a court of law would likely fall flat on its face.
Despite what Alex may say, this isn't "trolling" Alex. His reputation has been earned by his past actions, and now claiming everything is his, is like a "last nail in the coffin to many people".
Having said that, everyone makes their own choices. I can't (and wouldn't) tell anyone who to support or not. Speaking personally though, while I have admired his tenacity and dogged determination to keep trying again, the morality of repeatedly taking others down with him, goes very much against him and I would never trust any of his grids.
It's quite simple to everyone, Alex keeps trying, not letting failure be his accepted end, in other words, every time he gets knocked down, he gets back up and keeps going. That is the methods of a successful man, no matter what anyone says, because winners never quit, and quitters never win!
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