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Hello Merlin! ;-) I found (among many things) "Xray Spy Scanner v4" I think it is the one. But I don't see how to use it. Did I missed a howto notcard ? Merci !!
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haaaa yes! Thank you! I was in no script zone! and then I found somes huds droped on the grass!! It can be used to clean the land ;-) Merci !
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Are there any other big brains who could look into all this so that we have certainties and especially solutions? thank you!!!!!
(Happy 4th of July USA!!!)
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(Happy 4th of July USA!!!)
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The worst symptoms I saw in Barefoot Dreamer grid and a little in Virtualife and I dont remember where else but there were at least two other where I saw problems I thought was because HG jump...
The most often it is on body colors, some skins (bom I think) making top of the body white or only lips, I lost "asset not present in database" for ears or AO too. Parts of Athena body changed colors or turn transparent (and even seem as not existing at all when pointing on them with the mouse).
Scripts are vanishing too, sometimes not entirely, in some hud (emoticon for example) you can still have parts functionning while the other half is dead...
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The most often it is on body colors, some skins (bom I think) making top of the body white or only lips, I lost "asset not present in database" for ears or AO too. Parts of Athena body changed colors or turn transparent (and even seem as not existing at all when pointing on them with the mouse).
Scripts are vanishing too, sometimes not entirely, in some hud (emoticon for example) you can still have parts functionning while the other half is dead...
Appearance issues sometimes happen to me when grid hopping. I can normally just edit my appearance and exit without making any changes and it will fix me. I make sure to keep all my outfits/body parts in my suitcase so I have access to them while grid hopping and can reattach things if things get wonky.
If all else fails then as soon as I return home I look normal again. My appearance never seems to mess up if I'm teleporting around within my own grid.
I have not found any assets missing from my home grid either. Though I'm running Diva Distribution that has not had an update for a long time, I think its still on 9.2.1 and I am using FS 6-6-17 Linux Mint.
The only asset related thing I notice is the occasional yellow message in the console about request for missing material on some objects. Though this has been a thing for as long as I can remember and is just a bad mesh I picked up on my travels. I never get that message for any meshes I have made myself, its always on something I picked up.
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If all else fails then as soon as I return home I look normal again. My appearance never seems to mess up if I'm teleporting around within my own grid.
I have not found any assets missing from my home grid either. Though I'm running Diva Distribution that has not had an update for a long time, I think its still on 9.2.1 and I am using FS 6-6-17 Linux Mint.
The only asset related thing I notice is the occasional yellow message in the console about request for missing material on some objects. Though this has been a thing for as long as I can remember and is just a bad mesh I picked up on my travels. I never get that message for any meshes I have made myself, its always on something I picked up.
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After reading that the latest versions of Firestorm could be related to our asset issues I remember having a lot of things disappearing while I was in OSGrid with version 6.6.17 and Leonitas had told me that the last reliable version was 6.6.14. And it's true that miraculously I haven't had (for now) these problems in OSGrid since going back to 6.6.14. They persist in Barefoot though :-(
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And if it the cause of all our lost it is really a calamity.
How to tell everybody to go back to old versions if it is that?....
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How to tell everybody to go back to old versions if it is that?....
There are proper channels to address and troubleshoot issues with your system. Firestorm Help Ticket. When you have issues with Dreamgrid the correct protocol is to file a Mantis report, ( https://www.outworldz.com/bugreport/my_view_page.php?refre... ) this helps to track down bugs and to see how many are experiencing the issue. You also must keep in mind that each grid is maintained by each grid owner and their systems, so you have to understand those could be what is corrupt. Use the proper channels of submitting bug reports. Check your logs, it has all the errors it will help when you submit your reports.
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I didn't know that... maybe that's not something to say too loudly...
Anyway, in computers it seems to be VERY hard to prevent hacking, you can always find someone who knows enough to break your defenses
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Anyway, in computers it seems to be VERY hard to prevent hacking, you can always find someone who knows enough to break your defenses
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@Marianna Sorry for the barking of these two little gentlemen who say what they want when they see themselves disappearing...
Thanks for all your information, I will probably need it one day, I'm copying all that :-)
But I don't understand why you say that I confuse Full Perm with God Mod, I was only giving an example for which it is totally useless to use the god mod since we can find the full perm version of the same object somewhere on OS
Anyway, given the way OS works I share the opinion that I read above to say that flags are useless in OS as soon as we come across someone who wants to change them
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Thanks for all your information, I will probably need it one day, I'm copying all that :-)
But I don't understand why you say that I confuse Full Perm with God Mod, I was only giving an example for which it is totally useless to use the god mod since we can find the full perm version of the same object somewhere on OS
Anyway, given the way OS works I share the opinion that I read above to say that flags are useless in OS as soon as we come across someone who wants to change them
Yes, then we are saying the same thing if the item is already full perm there is no need to God Mod it, I know people say it is a tool as quoted from this very post " When an avatar leaves a grid or can't be reached to fix permissions on an item they've acquired from a reseller, God Mode makes the impossible, possible" I hear that from many people but still without permission I don't do that. That is a choice for me personally.
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Woof Woof Marianna :)
We bark so much that she has now made another avatar on OSGrid (Lilith Earst @ http://hg.osgrid.org:80/) with another island (Lilith's Paradise) and has tried to access again... she must really love us, I think.
Well, now as a good little pup, I'm going to take a walk and then I'll sleep.
Woof Woof. ♥
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We bark so much that she has now made another avatar on OSGrid (Lilith Earst @ http://hg.osgrid.org:80/) with another island (Lilith's Paradise) and has tried to access again... she must really love us, I think.
Well, now as a good little pup, I'm going to take a walk and then I'll sleep.
Woof Woof. ♥
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ideally no doubt! But the creator is not always registered in the properties of the items and we often find for the same item with different flags depending on where we got it... even if we want to do well it's a bit of a mess for a lot of things and it seems like we can't be sure of anything in opensim...
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If you do not know the creator of the object doesn't make it legal to bot it, and surely should not be a justification.
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if the creator is not in it, how do you know if it comes from him or from the many grid it can cross to come here ?
I had some items with no creator mentioned and from shop 1 it is no mod, no trans... and the same in shop 2 is full perm... not even having to god mode it... but it shows how strange things are in OS
(especialy when you arrive in it ;)
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I had some items with no creator mentioned and from shop 1 it is no mod, no trans... and the same in shop 2 is full perm... not even having to god mode it... but it shows how strange things are in OS
(especialy when you arrive in it ;)
When you have items with many different creators with many different permissions, it is a clue that it has likely been botted by one of the creators, that doesn't mean you should continue the botting cycle. There needs to be more caring people who do the right thing, we all know what that is. 🌷💗🌷
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no I was talking of a unique item with no creator name at all in it found with many different permissions... so to know what would be the "right thing" to do ... seing that I would say you have to search to get the item with the permission you need and no use to doing god mode (I dont know what is botting, copybot? I never did)
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The only time you should God Mod is with the creators permission, if no creator to contact then you should not God Mod it. It is that simple.
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I am not justifying the god mode, actually I am giving an example that says that it is even enough to search in the HG to find the same article with the permissions sought, no need for god mode then :-)
And it is often possible I have the impression.
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And it is often possible I have the impression.
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yes there is a channel with a lot of these shows, my "men" here love to look at that, I look too because I like american's cars and in the "monkeys" and spinoff, I find this Richard attractive ;)
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His latest project is a Humvee or a French-made recreational tank, your men will love that show!
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ho, I dont know a lot in all that , I thought the Humvee was a very big american Jeep, never heard it was french, but if it is, it sur they will love it , even if it is not so pretty as a 1959' Cadillac :-)
For now the channel is not broadcasting it, maybe later in the year I hope... they are in "Goldrush Alaska" ... :-/ I confess I'm not on it a lot ... as I don't like cold and know I will never had this gold... ;-) (and it is boring!)
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For now the channel is not broadcasting it, maybe later in the year I hope... they are in "Goldrush Alaska" ... :-/ I confess I'm not on it a lot ... as I don't like cold and know I will never had this gold... ;-) (and it is boring!)
Yes a Humvee OR a french-made recreational tank. https://www.slashgear.com/1538058/what-happened-to-richard... We watch his show here too, that goatee reminds me of my RL goat Joe Bananas, it looks identical. Richard IS HAWT!!
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Assuming that you find a way to make these bypasses really monitored, who will decide on the relevance of these protections and possible consequences? For example, someone who makes a big store in OS with articles all coming from SL without authorization from the creators and decides to appropriate them will he be able to decide to annihilate someone who has had the audacity to bypass the protection of his own theft?
BTW, I would like to know the number of creators who have given such authorizations elsewhere... if there are any!
This is where I see the limit of a certain hypocrisy that seems to exist on a large scale in OS ...
And for real creators in OS like Rhowin, how to validate the real originality of an article or code? describe the whole creation procedure with a deposit at the INPI? (French intellectual property organization of which all countries surely have an equivalent)
It is unfortunately very difficult to get to this point.
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BTW, I would like to know the number of creators who have given such authorizations elsewhere... if there are any!
This is where I see the limit of a certain hypocrisy that seems to exist on a large scale in OS ...
And for real creators in OS like Rhowin, how to validate the real originality of an article or code? describe the whole creation procedure with a deposit at the INPI? (French intellectual property organization of which all countries surely have an equivalent)
It is unfortunately very difficult to get to this point.
There are lots of creators who sell mesh and templates that make them available to OpenSim creators for legitimate use. Of course thats not the always the "new stuff" that is fed into OpenSim ad-nauseum from SL. IMO this all comes down to following the law. Doing the right thing. Instead of making excuses for all the little grey areas where it must be ok to steal this since I'm only using it for personal use. yada yada.
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There are "many" type of God mode users. About 3 months ago I knew nothing about God mode and copybots, I arrived from SL in OpenSim on a grid where we were given God mode right away and the links for DarkStrom! Without explaining anything to us! We immediately saw this as confirmation that OS was a world of hypocritical copycats. I won't tell you all the details here but it ended badly. All I want to say is that things that go without saying are better said: explanatory notes for newbies or hard of hearing would be welcome in many cases! In many grids we are left to our own devices and it is without malice that we manage to do stupid things (in my case to make backup on my other account)... Of course there are also those who want to intentionally steal and everything we can say to them will not change them and your protection seems very essential, believing in the benevolence and recognition of people is very illusory...
The main thing I remember is that your script was put on the SL marketplace? It is really the worst that can be done to you because here it is really about taking money from it... beside to take advantage of you knowing on the code.
Anyway I am glad that it does not discourage you from continuing to script for OS :-) thank you
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The main thing I remember is that your script was put on the SL marketplace? It is really the worst that can be done to you because here it is really about taking money from it... beside to take advantage of you knowing on the code.
Anyway I am glad that it does not discourage you from continuing to script for OS :-) thank you
Yes, OpenSim's on-boarding that covers the entire range of questionable to not accessible to newbies to non-existent in the first place is its very own topic. I mean, it's shown often enough that even SL converts struggle after joining OpenSim.
And the on-boarding is the first impression that someone gets of OpenSim.
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And the on-boarding is the first impression that someone gets of OpenSim.
Thank you, Ankh! I avoided explaining God Mode in my post, as I didn't want there to be a rush of new users abusing the system, so to speak, but between it and CopyBot viewers, there's a lot of crazy going on that most people aren't familiar with. I honestly thought about creating my own version of a "Welcome to OS" region with more than just signs on how to walk, talk, and interact, but have avoided it because I didn't want to overload new folks with more information than they actually need. Perhaps I'll eventually follow through with an "Advance Your Knowledge of OS" region. 😛
And yes, it was put up for sale on MP, which is what ultimately brought me to this point. To "steal" my work by making it full perm is one thing, to claim it as your own and then profit from it is another.
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And yes, it was put up for sale on MP, which is what ultimately brought me to this point. To "steal" my work by making it full perm is one thing, to claim it as your own and then profit from it is another.
Yes it is not the goal here to go into details but with the tutorials on the net or even the instructions in OSGrid explaining how to make your sim on your PC you can very quickly get to know all that without knowing anything about it (even more when arriving on a grid like the one I fell...) and especially when being curious like I am... But once again it will only be useful to those who are willing to read and follow the instructions. The main interest would be that no one could say they were not aware! Like a contract or a disclaimer. The ideal world of a well-understood Anarchy is unfortunately only in the realm of Utopia... Maybe one day.... we can dream
But for now even in a small community like here you can't hope that people will behave like you do, unfortunately.
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But for now even in a small community like here you can't hope that people will behave like you do, unfortunately.
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I actually ended up redoing this project completely, which is why there was never any news about it. It's one of my large projects I'm currently finishing up on, so I may need a few more volunteers. For now, all testing is done on my end, but so far so good, so be sure to keep an eye out for a future release post!
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