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I believe I have asked this before, what is the big deal about traffic report ranking? Is there a cash prize, an award ceremony, a trophy cup, a free pro-version of opensimworld.com?
All this fussing about rank and ratings for what?
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All this fussing about rank and ratings for what?
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what are you talking about? what fake traffic? i have new sim and residents there are npc-s but they give no traffic at all, rare people who came there praise sim and spend time there and come again but that is not a lot. so, fake traffic?? i want one lol
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" They managed to kickstart it with a whole lot of advertising plus a whole lot of exclusive, brand-new content largely on the same quality of the newest, hottest stuff on SL. And people piled onto that sim to get that content, and more people piled onto that sim because there were so many people on that sim, and because it was constantly in the top 10."
And then once Darkhearts started ranking higher than Lbsa, they were mysteriously "vanished." Can't have those uppity kids rating so high after all. I don't necessarily approve of their exclusive to us" business model, but it definitely worked! Maybea bit too good.
As someone who is new and building a region, I had found the traffic ranking and reviews important. It is/was a guide I could use to tell me if I was creating something of interest and that people are enjoying, or not. Also as a new person, it pointed me to some places where I could meet others in this spread-out world Now, I am not as interested in the rating It seems to be biased to some and not others, hard to trust when you have OSW fingers tipping the scales for some, and others are loading in alts to game the system.I just take it with a grain of salt and pay more attention to region reviews That speak more to me than mere traffic anyway.
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And then once Darkhearts started ranking higher than Lbsa, they were mysteriously "vanished." Can't have those uppity kids rating so high after all. I don't necessarily approve of their exclusive to us" business model, but it definitely worked! Maybea bit too good.
As someone who is new and building a region, I had found the traffic ranking and reviews important. It is/was a guide I could use to tell me if I was creating something of interest and that people are enjoying, or not. Also as a new person, it pointed me to some places where I could meet others in this spread-out world Now, I am not as interested in the rating It seems to be biased to some and not others, hard to trust when you have OSW fingers tipping the scales for some, and others are loading in alts to game the system.I just take it with a grain of salt and pay more attention to region reviews That speak more to me than mere traffic anyway.
"And then once Darkhearts started ranking higher than Lbsa, they were mysteriously "vanished." "
I thought I had seen it all here; but the brazenness with which that happened took my breath away.
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I thought I had seen it all here; but the brazenness with which that happened took my breath away.
Ich finde es erschreckend, dass hier jeder der BOTs benutzt über einen Kam geschoren wird. Es zeigt aber auch, dass 95% der Opesimler noch nicht wirklich was verstanden haben. Sicherlich wird von einem großen Teil der SIM Betreiber der Bot als solches zur Traffic Generierung genutzt.
Aber ein Bot kann aber weitaus mehr als nur Traffik erzeugen (das ist ein nett Nebeneffekt) . Es gibt Funktionen, die sind nur über die Bots abrufbar. Damit sind Bots nicht nur Traffik Macher, sondern auch ein Teil des SIM Projekts. Über welche Funktionen ich hier rede, kann man hier lesen: https://grimore.org/secondlife/scripted_agents/corrade/api... (Achtung, der Link braucht etwas länger zum laden)
Aber es ist ja viel einfacher jeden über einen Kam zu scheren als sich zu informieren und dann hier den Mund aufzureissen.
Und mal im Ernst, wer doch eine interessant SIM hat (egal welches Thema) empfiehlt sich über Besucher weiter. Der Traffik und Ranking Scheiss kam erst mit OpenSIMWORLD.
Haben fertig
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Aber ein Bot kann aber weitaus mehr als nur Traffik erzeugen (das ist ein nett Nebeneffekt) . Es gibt Funktionen, die sind nur über die Bots abrufbar. Damit sind Bots nicht nur Traffik Macher, sondern auch ein Teil des SIM Projekts. Über welche Funktionen ich hier rede, kann man hier lesen: https://grimore.org/secondlife/scripted_agents/corrade/api... (Achtung, der Link braucht etwas länger zum laden)
Aber es ist ja viel einfacher jeden über einen Kam zu scheren als sich zu informieren und dann hier den Mund aufzureissen.
Und mal im Ernst, wer doch eine interessant SIM hat (egal welches Thema) empfiehlt sich über Besucher weiter. Der Traffik und Ranking Scheiss kam erst mit OpenSIMWORLD.
Haben fertig
Personally, I think it's 'misleading' in terms of what, TO ME, really matters. I don't care how many random shoppers visited a place in the last hours or 30 months. My interest would be 'Hey where can I hang up and sit down, and havce a chat with people while multi-tasking at work?'.
I always put the same example: @JimmyOlsen 's FLORA. Never at the top rank here > Always where I go and send people for anything nature.
I personally would rather have more clear categorisation of what I can find in each place - maybe even at a parcel rather than region level: 'Here's shoes, here's hair, here's a chill out area, here's an irish-themed-pub...'
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I always put the same example: @JimmyOlsen 's FLORA. Never at the top rank here > Always where I go and send people for anything nature.
I personally would rather have more clear categorisation of what I can find in each place - maybe even at a parcel rather than region level: 'Here's shoes, here's hair, here's a chill out area, here's an irish-themed-pub...'
I don't mind leaving the number of users who are currently on the sim on the page, but please remove the rank,
that's what most owners get excited about, and then some do everything in an abstruse way, see clubs like .... ( no names ) .
you know who is meant anyway.
The owners can advertise, on TV they shoot us to death with it, just put an end to the ranking here on the website, well Pagane then no longer has much to say, ok bad luck.
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that's what most owners get excited about, and then some do everything in an abstruse way, see clubs like .... ( no names ) .
you know who is meant anyway.
The owners can advertise, on TV they shoot us to death with it, just put an end to the ranking here on the website, well Pagane then no longer has much to say, ok bad luck.
Unfortunately, traffic and traffic ranking does play a huge role in OpenSim. Sims that don't have high traffic numbers are on the verge of being invisible. Nobody is willing to flip through pages on sim lists that far back. People want quick and easy results.
This is why ca. 90% of all freebie shopping traffic went to Darkhearts when they still published their numbers. They managed to kickstart it with a whole lot of advertising plus a whole lot of exclusive, brand-new content largely on the same quality of the newest, hottest stuff on SL. And people piled onto that sim to get that content, and more people piled onto that sim because there were so many people on that sim, and because it was constantly in the top 10.
I guess, just like the R. Lion sim, it still gets lots of traffic in the shape of people who find stuff from there on other sims, can't pick it up because it's no-transfer and then go pick it up at the source.
If you haven't got anything new and exciting to offer, but you still don't want your sim to slip out of the top 10 and into obscurity which is largely the same unless your sim is a big name, you have to fabricate traffic.
The most "convincing" way is to tell some of your friends to park their avatars on your sim and keep them logged in 24/7. Then you can claim it's all regular user traffic.
If you don't know enough people who are willing to leave a computer with a viewer running all day and all night, you have to make your own traffic by creating simple alts and parking them on your sim as bots with no other apparent purpose.
Why? Because nobody will come visit your sim otherwise.
Especially not total OpenSim newbies. They don't know OSW-the-website. But they keep seeing the OSW beacons all over the place. And they take them for nifty Hypergrid teleporters. If you click on the touchscreen of a beacon, it lists the 10 most active sims. It's largely only these 10 sims that get any exposure through the beacons because especially newbies can't be arsed to go find the scroll buttons, let alone use them. And they want to go where people are because where people are has to be a cool place, right?
The popularity ranking is for luring those who already know the website, but who don't know it well enough to know that the popularity ranking is bogus and largely fabricated. They're likely to believe that popular = cool. And they, too, can't be arsed to flip through dozens of pages with sims if the first one or two pages promise to offer the hottest shit in OpenSim.
But seriously, even those of you who know all these dirty tricks, and who can see behind them: How far do you ever go through OpenSim's sim listings? When was the last time you've visited a sim that has been listed for a year or longer, that's at #700 or lower on the popularity ranking, that you weren't invited to, and that isn't yours?
See? Traffic generates traffic. And fake traffic is way too good at generating actual traffic.
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This is why ca. 90% of all freebie shopping traffic went to Darkhearts when they still published their numbers. They managed to kickstart it with a whole lot of advertising plus a whole lot of exclusive, brand-new content largely on the same quality of the newest, hottest stuff on SL. And people piled onto that sim to get that content, and more people piled onto that sim because there were so many people on that sim, and because it was constantly in the top 10.
I guess, just like the R. Lion sim, it still gets lots of traffic in the shape of people who find stuff from there on other sims, can't pick it up because it's no-transfer and then go pick it up at the source.
If you haven't got anything new and exciting to offer, but you still don't want your sim to slip out of the top 10 and into obscurity which is largely the same unless your sim is a big name, you have to fabricate traffic.
The most "convincing" way is to tell some of your friends to park their avatars on your sim and keep them logged in 24/7. Then you can claim it's all regular user traffic.
If you don't know enough people who are willing to leave a computer with a viewer running all day and all night, you have to make your own traffic by creating simple alts and parking them on your sim as bots with no other apparent purpose.
Why? Because nobody will come visit your sim otherwise.
Especially not total OpenSim newbies. They don't know OSW-the-website. But they keep seeing the OSW beacons all over the place. And they take them for nifty Hypergrid teleporters. If you click on the touchscreen of a beacon, it lists the 10 most active sims. It's largely only these 10 sims that get any exposure through the beacons because especially newbies can't be arsed to go find the scroll buttons, let alone use them. And they want to go where people are because where people are has to be a cool place, right?
The popularity ranking is for luring those who already know the website, but who don't know it well enough to know that the popularity ranking is bogus and largely fabricated. They're likely to believe that popular = cool. And they, too, can't be arsed to flip through dozens of pages with sims if the first one or two pages promise to offer the hottest shit in OpenSim.
But seriously, even those of you who know all these dirty tricks, and who can see behind them: How far do you ever go through OpenSim's sim listings? When was the last time you've visited a sim that has been listed for a year or longer, that's at #700 or lower on the popularity ranking, that you weren't invited to, and that isn't yours?
See? Traffic generates traffic. And fake traffic is way too good at generating actual traffic.
Only thing i care about is when you go into a region and most of the numbers u thought were in there are npcs's. I am at the point that if i get visitors in my grid cool, if not i enjoy it for myself :)
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Why all this fuss about rank and ratings?
I think that club owners will be happy about what they have achieved, mostly with fake avies, and that others will be upset that they have made it.
but otherwise this has never been of any use .
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I think that club owners will be happy about what they have achieved, mostly with fake avies, and that others will be upset that they have made it.
but otherwise this has never been of any use .
While it is nice to see a region go up in the rankings, you can't let that be the end all and be all for the work that you do. I've watched our grid's regions sky rocket up and plummet down again all in a matter of days. If I depended on the rankings to make me feel like my work is worth while I wouldn't do it. I do what I do because I enjoy it and if other's enjoy it that is even better. If one of my regions go up in rank, YAY, I'm happy! If it doesn't.. guess what...YAY, I'm' still happy. What I want to see is a more unified, dignified maybe amplified Open Sim community. If that can happen remains to be seen.
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In modern society, it has become fashionable to develop a huge amount of projects financed by government funds, religious organizations, NGOs and private sponsors.
You need an idea, a team and of course a sponsor. You apply and if you're convincing enough you get paid (we're talking real money, one of the projects got 100,000 Euros to do something like nothing) to develop... for example:
The world's first and only 3D model of the monument to world arrogance and stupidity.
You hire a SIM, team and so on.
It's time to show results, and of course you need to demonstrate how successful your project is. Of course the best way is to be number 1 or at least in the top 10 in the world ranking....
No way? HAHAHAHA - just look at the enthusiasm of the pack that claims we are preventing them from working!
I stop, I am sickened by the audacity of the people who killed OpenSIM to steal money on several fake projects...
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You need an idea, a team and of course a sponsor. You apply and if you're convincing enough you get paid (we're talking real money, one of the projects got 100,000 Euros to do something like nothing) to develop... for example:
The world's first and only 3D model of the monument to world arrogance and stupidity.
You hire a SIM, team and so on.
It's time to show results, and of course you need to demonstrate how successful your project is. Of course the best way is to be number 1 or at least in the top 10 in the world ranking....
No way? HAHAHAHA - just look at the enthusiasm of the pack that claims we are preventing them from working!
I stop, I am sickened by the audacity of the people who killed OpenSIM to steal money on several fake projects...
All the fuss, boils down to this --- more traffic = more members (potential) = more region rentals(maybe) = more revenue, I mean there is only so much you can do with the aging Opensim population of 200, or at least that's the rumour...hahaha
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